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#100291 - 10/23/06 03:04 AM Re: SSL#4 Daniel 7 - Topics for Discussion and Poll [Re: Aliensanctuary]
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Originally Posted By: Aliensanctuary

NLT---Dan 7: 9-12
9. I watched as thrones were put in place and the Ancient One* sat down to judge . His clothing was as white as snow, his hair like whitest wool. He sat on a fiery throne with wheels of blazing fire,

10. and a river of fire flowed from his presence. Millions of angels ministered to him, and a hundred million stood to attend him. Then the court began its session, and the books were opened.



I would be interested to see what forum members would say to vs.9 & 10 above, from Daniel 7.

At what point in time did they/will they happen? What would you cite as evidence for your conclusion? And what does your conclusion mean for Christians today? What are those "books" and what should they mean to someone who wants to walk with Jesus today?

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#100336 - 10/23/06 02:45 PM Re: SSL#4 Daniel 7 - Topics for Discussion and Poll [Re: closed]
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PS

I also wanted to state something re the poll above for this topic. I did not fill it out because it did not seem like the best answer was there.

The second last option re "current Adventist position," does not seem to actually be what the official position is.

Can anyone supply an "official" reference for this stated position? I usually just say that we should make it clear that we are opposing ideas/doctrines, not people, personally. Does this seem right, or is there a better way to say it?

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#100480 - 10/24/06 06:03 AM Re: SSL#4 Daniel 7 - Topics for Discussion and Poll [Re: closed]
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I've been thinking lately, What if at the First Resurrection of the righteous, they do not leave the Earth, but instead remain there during the 1000 years?

Where are the wicked? All dead, I presume. When the wicked are resurrected at the 2nd Resurrection, they take a while to get organized, then at last, they attack the righteous who have taken shelter in the rebuilt Jerusalem and the Temple. The wicked do indeed overrun the temple and the city and exult in triumph until God arrives and judges everyone.

Following the Judgement, the righteous are taken from the Earth and the wicked are destroyed.

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#101637 - 10/31/06 07:11 AM Re: SSL#4 Daniel 7 - Topics for Discussion and Poll [Re: Aliensanctuary]
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Originally Posted By: Aliensanctuary
I've been thinking lately, What if at the First Resurrection of the righteous, they do not leave the Earth, but instead remain there during the 1000 years?

Where are the wicked? All dead, I presume. When the wicked are resurrected at the 2nd Resurrection, they take a while to get organized, then at last, they attack the righteous who have taken shelter in the rebuilt Jerusalem and the Temple. The wicked do indeed overrun the temple and the city and exult in triumph until God arrives and judges everyone.

Following the Judgement, the righteous are taken from the Earth and the wicked are destroyed.


Hello! How are you "Aliensanctuary" ?

I would be interested in hearing you explain more about where you get the ideas from in your post above. For eg., where in the Bible do you interpret it so that the righteous who were raised in the first resurrection, remain on the earth during the 1000 year millenium?

Also, where in the Bible did you get it from that "following the judgment, the righteous are taken from the Earth?" And where do they go when they are thus "taken?"

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#101729 - 11/01/06 08:08 AM Re: SSL#4 Daniel 7 - Topics for Discussion and Poll [Re: closed]
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I'm just trying to think outside of the box by trying out unorthodox ideas to see if they work.

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Dan 10
20. He replied, "Do you know why I have come? Soon I must return to fight against the spirit prince of the kingdom of Persia, and then against the spirit prince of the kingdom of Greece.*
21. But before I do that, I will tell you what is written in the Book of Truth. (There is no one to help me against these spirit princes except Michael, your spirit prince.* I have been standing beside Michael* as his support and defense since the first year of the reign of Darius the Mede.)

These particular verses confirm to me that Gahbree-El traveled back in time to speak to Daniel. At the Time of the End, three kingdoms will arise with familiar, resurrected rulers, amid conflict, followed by Satan's Kingdom as the 4th. Gahbree-El and Meekaw-El are actively involved in the wars, but Gahbree-El takes a time-out to either appear or project his likeness to communicate with Dawnee-El thousands of years in the past.

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