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#106612 - 12/17/06 03:34 PM Re: Chapter 9 The Work and the Life ***** [Re: closed]
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Hi, David,

Thanks for that story. Yes, God does sometimes lead us to those very people who, without His help, we would naturally despise.

This happened in my own life. A lady who had asked for help turned out to be an alcoholic -- the first one of "those people" I had ever dealt with. But during the time I was ministering to her physical needs, God gave to me a love that was not mine to share with her. Her story was one of a longing for love from her mother, and a need for protection from the "love" of the stepfather, who had first introduced her to liquor as a 12 year old, and who had continued to supply her needs in that way, so that he could continue to abuse her sexually when she was too drunk to stop him. Her recovery from alcohol has been a long job, but she has been free for several years. She has now been my "foster daughter" for a number of years, as God has given to me a mother's love to share with her.

The son of one of our members was a reformed druggie, and a current alcoholic -- and not exactly the nicest kind. His mother had tried to stop his drinking by commands, to no avail. She asked me to take him some food, and I found a young man who was longing for his mother's love and understanding rather than her dictatorial attitude. Once again, God supplied that love, and enabled me to be able to sit and talk with him in the midst of squalid conditions. We talked and prayed together, as I was supplying food for his physical needs. I accompanied him to his day in court dealing with something he had done while drunk, for which he was sentenced to 8 months in prison. During that time I was able to visit him, and exchange letters. He died in prison from a massive heart attack, but not before he was reconciled with his family and with his God.

I am not telling you this in order to show what a "good person" I am -- because both of these incidents went far beyond my natural inclinations. Because I was willing to follow in God's leading, God was able to use me to help these people, and in so doing, He was able to also change my heart from a "natural critic" to one who now finds it much more "natural" to love.

Yes, I had much to learn, and I am so glad that God chose to place me in situations that I naturally found to be abhorrent, and that He supplied the needed love for me to cope.

God bless,

Beryl
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#106747 - 12/20/06 03:49 AM Re: Chapter 9 The Work and the Life [Re: closed]
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"So those who are the partakers of the grace of Christ will be ready to make any sacrifice, that others for who He died may share the heavenly gift. They will do all they can to make the world better for their stay in it. This spirit is the sure outgrowth of a soul trulytensity to follow in the path that Jesus trod. There will be an earnest longing that those around us may "behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world." converted. No sooner does one come to Christ than there is born in his heart a desire to make known to others what a precious friend he has found in Jesus; the saving and sanctifrying truth cannot be shut up in his heart. If we are clothed with the righteousness of Christ and are filled with the joy of His indwelling Spirit, we shall not be able to hold our peace. If we have tasted and seen that the Lord is good we shall have something to tell. Like Philip when he found the Saviour, we shall invite others into His presence. We shall seek to present to them the attractions of Christ and the unseen realities of the world to come. There will be an intensity of desire to follow in the path that Jesus trod. There will be an earnest longing that those around us may "behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world."


So ---- our "work" is not work at all!! It is the joyful telling, living, of a life that is full of the joy of the Lord! Sometimes the life tells more than words. Never must they be parted. Words without the life are worse than useless. When we have the life in Christ, then HE will supply the words!

God bless,

Beryl
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#106786 - 12/20/06 02:53 PM Re: Chapter 9 The Work and the Life [Re: Beryl]
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Thnks so much for sharing those stories Beryl. I noticed that the SC passage you presented above mentions "present the attractions of Christ;" and I think that as we make ourselves available; Jesus will help us to do just that.

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It is true that there may be an outward correctness of deportment without the renewing power of Christ. The love of influence and the desire for the esteem of others may produce a well-ordered life. Self-respect may lead us to avoid the appearance of evil. A selfish heart may perform generous actions. By what means, then, shall we determine whose side we are on?

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Who has the heart? With whom are our thoughts? Of whom do we love to converse? Who has our warmest affections and our best energies? If we are Christ's, our thoughts are with Him, and our sweetest thoughts are of Him. All we have and are is consecrated to Him. We long to bear His image, breathe His spirit, do His will, and please Him in all things.


I know this topic is from chapter 9 of SC; but the quote I posted above is from chapter7...It's the chapter on "The Test Of Discipleship." out of all the books which Ellen White wrote; I find that going back to this one for "reality checks" has been a real anchor point in my christian journey...

Hope you have a great holiday Beryl! Want me to send you some snow from Calgary??

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#106788 - 12/20/06 03:08 PM Re: Chapter 9 The Work and the Life [Re: closed]
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Well, it might save on the cost of airconditioning in the heat!

Happy Christmas,

God bless,

Beryl
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#107849 - 12/31/06 02:35 AM Re: Chapter 9 The Work and the Life [Re: Beryl]
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:And the effort to bless others will react in blessings upon ourselves. This was the purpose of God in giving us a part to act in the plan of redemption. He has granted men the privilege of becoming partakers of the divine nature and, in their turn, of diffusing blessings to their fellow men. This is the highest honour, the greatest joy, that it is possible for God to bestow upon men. Those who thus become participants in labours of love are brought nearest to their Creator." p.79


In reading this prargraph I find one sentence to be what I would term a "WOW" sentence! So hard to take in the full import of what God is saying:-

This is the highest honour, the greatest joy, that it is possible for God to bestow upon men."

Just take a moment to think about the implications in that sentence! We may take pride in honours bestowed by mankind -- frame that citation, hang it on the wall, be photographed, name in newspaper, on TV -- all honours that show the appreciation of other humans,

BUT

Here is an honour that none other than the Creator of the Universe bestows on us -- the honour of being able, through the passing on of God's love, to bring some soul nearer to his/her Saviour! The rewards make that human-given certificate become worth nothing more than scrap paper!

God bless

Beryl
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#107923 - 12/31/06 06:34 PM Re: Chapter 9 The Work and the Life [Re: Beryl]
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Yes Beryl; that is a "Wow sentence!" I keep forgetting to come to this Steps To Christ Forum; but everytime I do, you have some special blessing tucked away into one of your comments. Your work here is appreciated!

I believe that this "wow sentence" is something Jesus Himself was aware of, as this chapter in Steps To Christ starts out, in the 2nd paragraph saying:

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Our Saviour's joy was in the uplifting and redemption of fallen men. For this He counted not His life dear unto Himself, but endured the cross, despising the shame. So angels are ever engaged in working for the happiness of others. This is their joy. That which selfish hearts would regard as humiliating service, ministering to those who are wretched and in every way inferior in character and rank, is the work of sinless angels. The spirit of Christ's self-sacrificing love is the spirit that pervades heaven and is the very essence of its bliss. This is the spirit that Christ's followers will possess, the work that they will do.


Happy New Year Beryl!
BTW, I will pass along the new phrase "wow sentence" to my kids. They will love it too! :)

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#107960 - 12/31/06 10:30 PM Re: Chapter 9 The Work and the Life [Re: closed]
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"God might have committed the message of the gospel, and all the work of loving ministry, to the heavenly angels. He might have employed other means for accomplishing His purpose. But in His infinite love He chose to make us co-workers with Himself, with Christ and the angels, that we might share the blessing, the joy, the spiritual uplifting, which results from this unselfish ministry."


What a privilege! Co-workers with Christ and the angels! There can be no greater privilege than this!

How often does my guardian angel (by my side as I endeavour to minister to a friend) clap his hands over his ears saying, "Oh, no! Those words didn't come out right! Now Sue is offended!" And Jesus tells the angel, "It's OK. Leave Sue to her angel to comfort her and help her through this, and you take care of Beryl and let her know that all is not lost -- together we will get there!" And so the work continues -- the hiccups are ironed out, and the soul-saving work goes on.

Co-workers with Christ and the angels! That privilege is mind-boggling!

God bless,

Beryl
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#107961 - 12/31/06 10:36 PM Re: Chapter 9 The Work and the Life [Re: closed]
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Happy New Year to you, David. In my part of the world it is, in fact, already New Year. It is 6:30 am, 1st January, 2007.

One year closer home! May it be a blessed year.

God bless,

Beryl
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#109330 - 01/14/07 08:36 PM Re: Chapter 9 The Work and the Life [Re: Beryl]
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We are brought into sympathy with Christ through the fellowship of His sufferings. Every act of self-sacrifice for the good of others strengthens the spirit of beneficence in the giver's heart, allying him more closely to the Redeemer of the world, who "was rich, yet for your sakes...became poor, that ye through His poverty might be rich." 2 Corinthians 8:9. And it is only as we thus fulfill the divine purpose in our creation that life can be a blessing to us.


"Every act of self-sacrifice in the giver's heart strengthens the spirit of beneficence in the giver's heart,..."

Ever notice how good you feel when you have been able to help someone else? Somehow there is a glow -- not a "patting oneself on the back" type of glow, but that good feeling that comes from helping others.

Thinking about Christ when He was here on earth, He had some woeful days -- when the scribes, pharisees, lawyers, etc did all they could to try to bring His ministry into disrepute.

I like to think that it was the warm glow of having been able to help others that would have give to Jesus some of the strength needed to carry on. There would have been an inner glow as He watched the widow receive back her only son who had died; the joy of the parents of the little girl, raised back to life; the overflowing joy of Mary and Martha receiving Lazarus back from the tomb. Yes, He also kknew the pain of criticism, the murderous plannings were kinown to Him. Sure, He received strength from His Father, but I somehow feel that that inner glow of being able to help someone would have also been there.

God bless,

Beryl
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#109431 - 01/15/07 04:28 PM Re: Chapter 9 The Work and the Life [Re: Beryl]
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Beryl, you have me thinking of the 10 lepers and how only one returned to thank Him for healing. Thank you, I was stuck on this particular "step" in my own walk. May I join in this study?

annie

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