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#163695 - 03/30/08 01:24 AM Re: How do i know i am welcome in the church? [Re: truthseeker007]
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Last time I went to church I felt terrible, like Judas.


I skipped church today and went to the Democratic County Convention and I kind of felt like Judas there. ROFL

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I am such a terrible being.


Seriously now... We all are. I could cite a long list of sins I have committed but doing so would take the focus off from my point and onto my past. I am convinced there is no sin too great that the blood of Christ cannot cleanse me from it. But there is a process of healing that we often need help with. We are damaged goods- each and everyone of us. Some of can find healing simply through Bible study, prayer and Christian fellowship. Others, like myself, need more help. I would suggest you look for a Christian counseling agency. Do you have medical insurance that covers counseling? If not, I suggest using some of the resources at Life Renewal Institute They have videos, books, seminars and online groups.
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#163752 - 03/30/08 02:46 PM Re: How do i know i am welcome in the church? [Re: Shane]
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Thanks for your encouragement. Today i went from soccer to home and i saw my ex girlfriend with another guy. That hurts pretty much because i was willing to sacrifice my soul for her. IN the old days i would have stepped off my bike and kicked the brains out of the guy. But that ain t me anymore. I am focused on Jesus now. I gave up my girl, career, friends, entertainment, money etc so i can serve Jesus with all of my might. Please pray that JEsus won t reject me. I ve been rejected too many times. Please i really need JEsus. I ve decided to go to church again. Please pray.
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#163759 - 03/30/08 03:48 PM Re: How do i know i am welcome in the church? [Re: truthseeker007]
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Life Renewal Institute specializes in rejection. It seems a bit spendy but if you are going to pay for counseling out of your own pocket, it is cheaper than going to a counselor. A counselor costs $75-$100 per session. A good counselor shouldn't need more than a year of weekly sessions to help someone. At $75/week for a year that would cost $3,900. Bare that in mind when looking at the products and services offered by Life Renewal Institute.

Rejection. Yes, I know it well. blowing I never broke up with a girlfriend my entire life. Never. Not once. Every girlfriend I had dumped me. Of course, I never had many girlfriends to begin with so the list of those that dumped me really isn't that long. crazy My dad abandoned me when I was five. I was laughed at and made fun of in school and never felt like I fit it.

Isaiah, describing our Savior's life on earth wrote, "He is despised and rejected of men; a Man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from Him; He was despised, and we esteemed Him not." The Apostle John wrote, "He came unto His own, and His own received him not." On the cold and lonely cross Jesus cried out, "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken Me?" The Apostle Paul wrote, "Wherefore in all things it behoved Him to be made like unto his brethren, that He might be a merciful and faithful High Priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people... For we have not an High Priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin."

Jesus lived a life of rejection - which is what we deserve. Christianity is all about reconciliation. It is all about acceptance by God. "For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of His Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by His life." (Rom. 5:10) "Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new. And all things are of God, Who hath reconciled us to Himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation; To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto Himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation. Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ's stead, be ye reconciled to God. For He hath made Him to be sin for us, Who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in Him." (2 Cor. 5:17-21)

He was rejected for us that we might be reconciled (or accepted) by God. He got what we deserved so we can get what He deserves! That is the Good News! That is the gospel of Jesus Christ!

If you would like the interview of Drs. Ron and Nancy Rockey on 3ABN Today just send me an email with your address and I will send it to you. Be sure to tell me if you want it in DVD or VHS. No charge for it.
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#163779 - 03/30/08 06:14 PM Re: How do i know i am welcome in the church? [Re: Shane]
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Thanks Shane i am glad Jesus knows he we feel. Thank you for the offer of help but i don t got money, furthermore i am from Holland. I love you people here, you are the only ones left to me. I hope for better days, i hope for love and the holy spirit. Thank you all for all of your encouragements. Thanks for pointing to the life of Jesus. Somehow i will be able to draw lessons from these painfull experiences.
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#163798 - 03/30/08 07:33 PM Re: How do i know i am welcome in the church? [Re: truthseeker007]
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I can send the interview to Holland. I send a lot of mail internationally.
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#163902 - 03/31/08 02:54 AM Re: How do i know i am welcome in the church? [Re: truthseeker007]
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Defenently will be praying. Jesus will never reject you, or any of us for that matter.

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#163949 - 03/31/08 11:50 AM Re: How do i know i am welcome in the church? [Re: truthseeker007]
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Originally Posted By: truthseeker007
Actually i have a desire to go to church to grasp a little bit of the presence of God. But i am afraid. I am such a hypocrite if i go to church. I am afraid that God will be angry with me if i am going to church. I am such a terrible being. Furthermore i am not really the kind of person that is enjoying the presence of the other people. I ve been alone for a long time now, and now i am afraid to get connected with people again. I want to go to church, i want God to love me but i understand that that just ain t possible no more. I ve lost my innocence a long time again.


It's always nice to have everyone's approval, but when one goes to church to meet with Jesus, how others might react never takes away the promise He offers all.

"All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out." John 6:37 KJV

"Let the wicked forsake his way
And the unrighteous man his thoughts;
And let him return to the LORD,
And He will have compassion on him,
And to our God,
For He will abundantly pardon. "
Isaiah 55:7 NASB

"But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God." Romans 2:29 KJV
Blessings! peace
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#163950 - 03/31/08 12:06 PM Re: How do i know i am welcome in the church? [Re: Neil D]
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Originally Posted By: Neil D
the real Voice that you need to listen to...God's quiet voice...You can hear it during prayer, ...if you listen...


"And He said, Go out and stand on the mount before the Lord. And behold, the Lord passed by, and a great and strong wind rent the mountains and broke in pieces the rocks before the Lord, but the Lord was not in the wind; and after the wind an earthquake, but the Lord was not in the earthquake;
And after the earthquake a fire, but the Lord was not in the fire; and after the fire [a sound of gentle stillness and] a still, small voice."

1 Kings 19:11,12 AMP
Regards! peace
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#163951 - 03/31/08 12:18 PM Re: How do i know i am welcome in the church? [Re: truthseeker007]
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Originally Posted By: truthseeker007
Please pray.


Each day, without fail, that Jesus' will be worked out in your life. Join me in that same prayer.

"Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven." Matthew 18:19 KJV
God bless! peace
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#163953 - 03/31/08 12:24 PM Re: How do i know i am welcome in the church? [Re: truthseeker007]
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Originally Posted By: truthseeker007
I hope for better days, i hope for love and the holy spirit.


"...and now there doth remain faith, hope, love -- these three; and the greatest of these [is] love." 1 Corinthians 13:13 YLT
Keep looking up! peace
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