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#185479 - 09/13/08 05:25 PM AMEN (Adventist Medical Evangelism Network)--2008 Conf.: Oct 30-Nov2
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The Adventist Medical Evangelism Network is a grassroots movement of Seventh-day Adventist physicians and dentists with a unique focus…medical evangelism. Do you want to share the gospel with your patients? Do you want to use your medical training to hasten the second coming of Christ? Do you wish you had training, support and resources to make these desires a reality?

Plan now to attend the Adventist Medical Evangelism Network’s 2008 conference. Together we will learn how to follow Christ’s footsteps and be healers of body and soul.

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67967 Vista Chino
Cathedral City, California 92234


Thursday October 30–Sunday November 2, 2008


“Linked for Service”
Thursday—October 30, 2008
Exhibit Set Up: 12:00 – 3:30 pm
Registration/Check-In: 2:00 – 4:00 pm
Business Meeting: 4:00 – 5:30 pm
Dinner: 6:00 – 6:45 pm
Evening Meeting: 7:15 – 8:45 pm
Naren James , MD

Friday—October 31, 2008
Morning Devotional 7:30 – 8:15 am
Samuel Pipim
Prayer Groups: 8:15 – 8:30 am
Breakfast: 8:15 – 9:30 am
Plenary Session: 10:00 – 11:15 am
Neil Nedley
Breakout Sessions: 11:30 am – 1:00 pm
Lunch: 1:00 – 2:00 pm
Breakout Sessions: 3:30 – 5:00 pm
Dinner: 6:00 – 6:45 pm
Evening Meeting: 7:15 – 8:45 pm
Roger Miller, MD

Saturday—November 1, 2008
Morning Devotional 7:30 – 8:15 am
Samuel Pipim
Prayer Groups: 8:15 – 8:30 am
Breakfast: 8:15 – 9:30 am

Sabbath School : 9:45 – 11:15 am

Medical/Pastoral Teams:

Worship Service: 11:30 am – 12:45 pm
Doug Batchelor


Lunch: 1:00 – 2:00 pm
Afternoon Meeting: 3:30 – 5:00 pm
Overseas Mission Reports & Musical Program
Dinner: 6:00 – 6:45 pm
Evening Meeting: 7:15 – 8:45 pm
Mission Report Session

Sunday—November 2, 2008Morning Devotional 7:30 – 8:15 am
Samuel Pipim
Prayer Groups: 8:15 – 8:30 am
Breakfast: 8:15 – 9:30 am
Plenary Session: 9:30 – 10:30 am
James Kyle, MD
Exhibit Tear down: 12:00 pm

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#185483 - 09/13/08 05:38 PM Re: AMEN (Adventist Medical Evangelism Network)--2008 Conf.: Oct 30-Nov2 [Re: delta]
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Do you want to share the gospel with your patients?


To me ... this is being dishonest with the vulnerable.

People come to a doctor to receive medical help. To try and force the Bible and Religion in to someone who is needing your medical assistance ... seems deceptive and dishonest to me personally.

Some will say they only give it if the patient agrees. But to be in the position of power and even suggest something like this ... is not professional.

Give your care and help to others without strings attached.

If they contact you later about religious things ... fine. But to push this on the vulnerable is just plain wrong.
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#185488 - 09/13/08 05:51 PM Re: AMEN (Adventist Medical Evangelism Network)--2008 Conf.: Oct 30-Nov2 [Re: delta]
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Hi dear Redwood,

You said, "People come to a doctor to receive medical help. To try and force the Bible and Religion in to someone who is needing your medical assistance ... seems deceptive and dishonest"

But people came to Jesus to receive medical help also. To try and force the Bible and His will in to someone who is needing HIS medical assistance ... seems deceptive and dishonest, right Redwood?



I just don't get what you said by "force" here.

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#185494 - 09/13/08 06:09 PM Re: AMEN (Adventist Medical Evangelism Network)--2008 Conf.: Oct 30-Nov2 [Re: delta]
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No. I would have to disagree with you. They knew Him to be the Lord. The Saviour. They were healed because of their faith in Him. Jesus did not have a medical degree nor did He have a license to practice medicine. Those who do ... ought to stick to medicine unless they are making it aware ... as Jesus did ... that they are preaching the Gospel.
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Lord, make me the person my dog thinks I am.

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#185495 - 09/13/08 06:10 PM Re: AMEN (Adventist Medical Evangelism Network)--2008 Conf.: Oct 30-Nov2 [Re: delta]
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IMHO, *forcing* the Bible and religion on someone who is in need of medical assistance is tantamount to holding them hostage. I wouldn't like it, and I wouldn't do it to someone else. One can demonstrate the character of Jesus without shoving a Bible lesson in a patient's face.
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#185501 - 09/13/08 06:34 PM Re: AMEN (Adventist Medical Evangelism Network)--2008 Conf.: Oct 30-Nov2 [Re: rudywoofs]
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When an extremist like Samuel Pipim is participating .... I would have to be skeptical. And yes Rudywoofs ... I like how you have described it ... Being held hostage. I think that is exactly the case of those who seek 'medical care'. It's not like they can leave when one tries shoving religion down your throat.
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#185555 - 09/13/08 10:09 PM Re: AMEN (Adventist Medical Evangelism Network)--2008 Conf.: Oct 30-Nov2 [Re: Redwood]
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Dr. Hans LaRondelle said Sam Pipim was his brightest and most gracious student. I have met Sam on two occasions and found him to be as LaRondelle said he was. Reformers are not always polular, and that is fine.


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#185561 - 09/13/08 10:26 PM Re: AMEN (Adventist Medical Evangelism Network)--2008 Conf.: Oct 30-Nov2 [Re: olger]
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When you are sick in the hospital ... would you like to have the JW's insisting on preaching to you through the efforts of your surgeon?

I would think not. I think it best to separate medical care and religion for the patient. I think we should serve the patient without motives of converting them.
Service is great in and of it's self.
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Love WON Another.
Lord, make me the person my dog thinks I am.

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#185583 - 09/14/08 12:00 AM Re: AMEN (Adventist Medical Evangelism Network)--2008 Conf.: Oct 30-Nov2 [Re: Redwood]
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I don't believe that abstract question applies to me,

regards,

oG

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#185612 - 09/14/08 01:07 AM Re: AMEN (Adventist Medical Evangelism Network)--2008 Conf.: Oct 30-Nov2 [Re: olger]
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Medical Evangelism is not a new technique introduced and mastered by Adventists Church. This has been one of the best methods came directly from Jesus Himself about 2000 years ago. Physical needs must come first to be healed before spiritual things.

And Jesus said, "go ye and tell the world...."

But how?

I know Redwood that you won't answer my question of your statement to "force"....

To FORCE? Who against who?


Yet I just assuming that you became an Adventist only because you are 2nd or the 3rd generation of a SDA family. Just maybe. I don't know.

If not, who convinced you then? Do you feel that you're being trapped at that time and forced to become an Adventist?

Apostle Paul was not a full time Pastor, but a businessman and with his small business he won many souls to Christ. So what? Please complaint about him now to Jesus and campaign to everyone not to follow Paul's way to trap people come into Jesus through his business.

We really love you Redwood, but, please don't take it personal if somebody says that you are such an extremist that too much talking about theology and religion all the time and too much, of course...But you don't really like and has no attitude to create a chance to give a Bible Study to anyone.

Talking about Theology and Religion and debating all the time, but don't really like to give a Bible Study.

Well...at least, please don't complaint if most of the Apostles sharing Jesus at their works and networks.
Please don't get upset if many of Adventists Physicians, Nurses or Dentists share about Jesus.
And please don't get mad if Adventist Schools/Universities around the world in the middle of their school activities also tell to all students to be ready for the second coming of Jesus!


Tell the world! But never by forcing them as in your accusation, however.

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