And can you imagine. Jesus even mentioned morality when all they did was come to Him for healing of the body.

"Afterward Jesus findeth him in the temple, and said unto him, Behold, thou art made whole: sin no more, lest a worse thing come unto thee." John 5:14 KJV

Seems like I hear a principle of the prince of darkness.

"And, behold, there was a man which had his hand withered. And they asked him, saying, Is it lawful to heal on the sabbath days? that they might accuse him." Matthew 12:10 KJV

"But that ye may know that the Son of man hath power upon earth to forgive sins, (he said unto the sick of the palsy,) I say unto thee, Arise, and take up thy couch, and go into thine house."
Luke 5:24 KJV

We all have the right to go elsewhere than to the person/s who are willing to risk disfavor for the opportunity to give the message of health for eternity.

"....If thou wilt diligently hearken to the voice of the LORD thy God, and wilt do that which is right in his sight, and wilt give ear to his commandments, and keep all his statutes, I will put none of these diseases upon thee, which I have brought upon the Egyptians: for I am the LORD that healeth thee." Exodus 15:26 KJV
Regards!

Doesn't it say in the Spirit of prophecy that medical evangelism is the entering wedge? The AMEN movement, although very young in its ministry, has my full support and I would encourage anyone in the medical field to join.

I wouldn't call Samuel Korangteng Pipim an extremist. I'd say he is on fire for the Lord. And yes, he is also a very humble and gracious man. A man of God.

Completely agree, Peace. I think you have two very valid points here.

Personally, I'd go out on a limb here and say plainly that I am excited by the Adventist Medical Evangelism Network. I think it's great. I don't think there's any need to be concerned that people are being forced into anything.

I know of non-Adventists who were patients at Loma Linda University Medical Center and who thought it was wonderful that there are still doctors and nurses today who will take the time and interest to pray with them.

If there comes a day when we as a church forget the purpose of our hospitals-- as the entering wedge of the the gospel-- I'm of the opinion that we might as well close up shop. Our hospitals exist only for the purpose of pointing people to Jesus Christ and the spreading of the gospel. There are thousands of other hospitals that tend to people's bodies. Ours are designed to tend to a person's body, but also to people's spiritual needs.

Amen to AMEN !!

May I also put a plug here for GYC of which Pipim is very much involved with. I wonder if anyone in the Adventist Forum will be attending this December?

ooh By the way, when first time established, the name of the SDA hospital in Loma Linda I think it's not "Loma Linda University Medical Center"....but I forget what's exactly the name of the facility.

What was the name of it?

The Loma Linda Sanitarium.

Later: Loma Linda Sanitarium and Hospital.

College of Medical Evangelists was the name of the university. I remember that sign on the highway just before getting to Loma Linda. Personally wish they had kept the name.

That was the name of the hospital, yes.

The original buildings were there until the late 60s.

Sure doctors and clinics should share their faith. You see "The Bible Story" books in clinics and doctors offices. If doctors felt burdened to hand out tracts or to provide spiritual reading material, they should be allowed to do that. Maybe it makes them feel better about themselves.

There are actually lots of people that are searching for truth. If they find it in your clinic, they will remember that and be life-time customers. Parents will also read "The Bible Story" books to their children while they are waiting.

Sure, I can see it getting out of hand and becoming unprofessional, or even fanatical. Obviously if you love the Lord, you don't want anyone to misrepresent. But even if they are a little clumsy, they should get credit for trying.

These things just need alot of finesse and wisdom. No shoving needed. Just provide a pamphlet that they can pick up and read. At the bottom put contact info and then put "or ask you physician if you are interested in these programs". Make sure they are informed up front that you will be using some advice from the Bible in the anger management, or stop smoking program, or whatever.

Actually, I don't know much about all this, so I don't have much to say. I try to avoid the hospital at all costs. It's just extremely expensive these days. One time I had a seizure and the people there called the ambulance and I got stuck with a $5000 hospital bill that I couldn't pay, so now no bank in Oklahoma will let me have a checking or savings account. You don't call an ambulance if someone has a seizure. Don't people know that?

Honestly, I hate the medical industry. Why do they have to charge so much? Why do our presidents and senators take million dollar bribes from health care giants to pass laws on their behalf? Why don't we have universal health care like these other countries, like Canada, England, France, and all the rest? Maybe because it would put the health insurance giants out of business? Those guys can find an honest career that actually provides a good or service for people. They are just paper shufflers.

Actually, you shouldn't ever put any type of religious info in a doctors office, nor in any hospital. You see, your average non-profit hospital receives more than 50% of it's funding directly from the federal government. Thus, to maintain seperation of church and state, no federally funded hospital, nor MD's office, should ever allow any type of religous info to be displayed. In fact, many hospitals now prevent religous groups to leave phamplets in waiting rooms.

Would it be ok for an athiest MD, nurse, radiology tech, housekeeper, or cafeteria staff to try to convince you of their way of thinking while you are recovering from a major surgery, and on heavy pain killers? I should think you would be highly offended and possibly call in the hospital administration. But, you want to do the same thing, but just for the SDA church, which seems to make it right in your mind. How is that?

Why don't we let doctors be doctors, it's what they went to school for, and it's what they are licensed to do. They are not pastors. Hospitals provide pastoral care for those in need. They are available 24/7, just a phone call away. And these hosptial pastors have very specific training in how to deal with sick and greiving patients. Medical doctors do NOT recieve religous training when in medical school!


Please, let doctors be doctors, and take care of physically sick people. And let pastors be pastors, and take care of spiritually sick people.

When you overstep your boundries, you just look pushy and agressive, and when did that ever bring people to the lord?