Here we go again: "You shall love your neighbor AS yourself."

Club people on the head with EGW whenever suitable, and ignore the rest of what she says when not convenient.

Gerry

Are you kidding me? Are they called, "The 10 Suggestions?" "The 10 Options?".

Tell us what you think!

Gerry

Do you know how many species of love the English word "love" covers?

And what's your point for pointing out sin if the believer can take with him to heaven anyway?

Gerry

I would describe them as a Goal to achieve. Some will miss the mark yet they are still saved. A command implies that if the command is not done that they would be lost. However ... this is not true. We will miss the mark and yet be saved.

There's two ways to look at this.

Turn to Hebrews 10:10 By this will [God's will] we have been sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

So in this setting we have been set apart.

The other meaning of sanctification is growth...as in being sanctified. If the Sabbath points to an ongoing act then it becomes meaningless. Why? Again, the Sabbath always points to perfect and complete act in which God is resting from.

DO you already stand sanctified "in Christ"? Yes...then that is complete and the Sabbath makes sense.

However, if you are referring to the process of sanctification this is always incomplete and ongoing. Hence it can't point to a finished and perfect work. That means once again you are being the legalist!

Redwood, look how Gerry uses the Bible. He says, "it is also a COMMAND, not a suggestion". That's a sure sign that a legalist is behind such....He's confused, but he wants to glory in your flesh if you do as he says....

Thank you Robert. This I can grasp and agree with. Has this always been your point in this issue of the Sabbath?

I hope so. Because I can fully agree with this.

Better yet...look to Christ's life. He fulfilled the law! Where's that selfishness...where that's capitalism and striving to be number one? Now look at your life! What do you see?

Answer: A marked difference.

You are selfish and Christ is selfless....

Now since you have taken the position that God's commandments aren't 10 suggestions, then you better get busy living Christ's life in every detail. Oh, too late...the law says you must die!

Sorry I have been so slow to support you. I can be dense some times.

It is written: "And He wrote on the tablets, in the same writing as before, the TEN COMMANDMENTS that the LORD had spoken...."Dt 10:4 ESV.

There's a world of difference between those who by faith obey with love, mind, might, heart, and soul, and miss the mark from those who deliberately and willfully miss the mark.

It is written: "For if we go on sinning DELIBERATELY after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, but a fearful expectation of judgment, and a fury of fire that will consume the adversaries." Heb 10:26 ESV

"The soul who sins shall die.....But if a wicked person turns away from all his sins that he has committed and keeps all my statutes and does what is just and right, he shall surely live; he shall not die. None of the transgressions that he has committed shall be remembered against him; for the righteousness that he has done he shall live. Have I any pleasure in the death of the wicked, declares the Lord GOD, and not rather that he should TURN FROM his way and live? But when a righteous person TURNS AWAY from his righteousness and does injustice and does the same abominations that the wicked person does, shall he live? None of the righteous deeds that he has done shall be remembered; for the treachery of which he is guilty and the sin he has committed, for them he shall die." Ez 18:20, 21-24 ESV

Gerry