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#191281 - 10/07/08 10:09 AM A Prophecy About Evolution?
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2 Peter 3:3-7 (King James Version)

3Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,

4And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.

5For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:

6Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:

7But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
Are these verses a prophecy of the rise of evolutionary theory?
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#191322 - 10/07/08 03:32 PM Re: A Prophecy About Evolution? [Re: Bravus]
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It is like the term "antiChrist" that is used in 1John 2:18 - many groups have denied the flood -- evolutionists as we see in the case below -- are just one of them.



in Christ,

Bob


Edited by BobRyan (10/07/08 03:34 PM)

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#191361 - 10/07/08 07:36 PM Re: A Prophecy About Evolution? [Re: Bravus]
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It seems to me that it has to do more with the second coming and the creation of this earth.

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#191417 - 10/08/08 02:54 AM Re: A Prophecy About Evolution? [Re: pkrause]
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The theory was that "in Origins forum", most of the people would confess this was a prophecy about Evolution. So to test the theory, you would have to post the poll in Origins forum.

Isn't that what' I said?

Originally Posted By: rush4hire
The problem with that, is most of the people in Origins believe just as I do that the verses 2 Peter 3:3-7 have to do with Evolution. That's my theory. If you want to test it, do a poll, and ask how many people there believe 2 Peter 3:3-7 is the foretelling of the rise of Evolution.


In a forum like this, you wouldn't have as high of a percent of people that feel strongly about the topic of origins.
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#191430 - 10/08/08 04:27 AM Re: A Prophecy About Evolution? [Re: rush4hire]
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Ah, OK, sorry, comprehension failure on my part. Will move the thread.
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#191433 - 10/08/08 04:32 AM Re: A Prophecy About Evolution? [Re: Bravus]
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Didn't reset it to zero, though I can start a new poll if you'd prefer. It stands at Yes (3), No (5), Impossible to say (1) when I moved it to Origins. Won't take too many votes either way to support (or otherwise) the hypothesis.
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#191435 - 10/08/08 04:44 AM Re: A Prophecy About Evolution? [Re: Bravus]
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2Peter 3

3Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,

4And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.

5For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:

6Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:

7But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.


1. the last days scoffers -- clicking on that video above -- demonstrates the point.

2. Willingly ignorant -- they all claimed to be former Christians - but now deny that God made the world, and life and deny the flood.

3. All things continue over time - slow continuous uniform process over time

4. The world wide flood event is specifically identified as something they reject. The more you learn about those guys illustrated in that video -- the more true you find that this prediction is -

The more you follow what happened to Europe when it went down the road of evolutionism -- and then ended up in a post-Christian age -- the more true you see that this text is --

in Christ,

Bob


Edited by BobRyan (10/08/08 04:46 AM)

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#191461 - 10/08/08 07:02 AM Re: A Prophecy About Evolution? [Re: BobRyan]
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You've cited correlation on the relatively low proportions of both Christians and creationists in Europe, but is there evidence for the causality?
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#191511 - 10/08/08 03:59 PM Re: A Prophecy About Evolution? [Re: Bravus]
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Well there is always that video where see Darwinists admiting to the SAME causality as the FOUNDER of Darwinism admitted --

Then there is also the survey and the comments on it by the British science and education department --

All pretty obvious I suppose you could say.

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#191553 - 10/08/08 10:07 PM Re: A Prophecy About Evolution? [Re: BobRyan]
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rush4hire made an empirically testable statement: a majority of people in Origins will agree that those texts in Peter are a prophecy of the rise of evolution.

That statement has been tested and disproved by the evidence.
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