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#193398 - 10/16/08 04:44 AM Re: Evolution & Loss of Faith [Re: Bravus]
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many people feel they have to leave Christianity when the evidence for an old earth becomes too convincing for them to ignore


The same can be said of many doctrines: the Sabbath, homosexuality and divorce to name a few. What we need to do, rather than cave in and say that Sola Scriptura isn't the way to read the Bible, show how the six day creation week and the worldwide flood is plausible. We don't need to prove scientifically the Bible is true. We only need to show it is plausible.
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#193508 - 10/16/08 08:27 PM Re: Evolution & Loss of Faith [Re: Shane]
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Trouble is that "plausible" is subjective and only opinion.

By the way where did creation begin? At what point on the earth surface did day two begin? mel

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#193565 - 10/17/08 04:22 AM Re: Evolution & Loss of Faith [Re: Shane]
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Originally Posted By: Shane
  • Does evolution cause people to lose their faith?
  • Do people turn to evolution after losing their faith for some other reason unrelated to evolution?
  • Do creationists only believe in creation because of the Bible and their faith?
  • Without the Bible or Christianity, would anyone believe in creation based on the evidence alone?

  • Maybe, but not always. I know (from blogging) several Christian scientists who believe that evolution is true.
  • Believing that evolution is true isn't an alternative to faith. It's not a religion. It doesn't have to be an either/or situation.
  • Yes. Why would one be a creationist if one didn't read the Bible (or other holy book) literally? There is nothing in the natural world that suggests the world has been here for only a few thousand years.
  • No. The evidence doesn't point to a literal six-day creation a few thousand years ago. The preponderance of evidence points to something else entirely.
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#193585 - 10/17/08 06:28 AM Re: Evolution & Loss of Faith [Re: Vera]
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The evidence points to the fact that there is a creator God, a mastermind behind all of this. You may not be able to prove a literal 6 day creation but if the God I've come to know and trust says it happened that way, then that is good enough for me.

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#193587 - 10/17/08 06:34 AM Re: Evolution & Loss of Faith [Re: melvin mccarty]
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Originally Posted By: melvin mccarty
Trouble is that "plausible" is subjective and only opinion.


That is the subject of origins no matter how it is approached. It is subjective and only opinion. The so-called "science" of origins is really a quasi-science in that it is based on several assumptions that cannot be proven.
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#193589 - 10/17/08 07:05 AM Re: Evolution & Loss of Faith [Re: Taylor]
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Strictly speaking, no, it doesn't.

Now, as a Christian, acknowledging God as the creator is a great thing to do.

But scientifically speaking, there's no evidence that God created anything, or that God even exists.
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#193676 - 10/17/08 07:40 PM Re: Evolution & Loss of Faith [Re: Vera]
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Unless one believes something came from nothing, there must have been Something that started everything else. Organizations like the Discovery Institute do a good job of showing how the evidence around us leads to the conclusion that there is a Creator.
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#193683 - 10/17/08 08:10 PM Re: Evolution & Loss of Faith [Re: Shane]
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There may indeed have been something. But no one knows what that something was.
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#193684 - 10/17/08 08:19 PM Re: Evolution & Loss of Faith [Re: Vera]
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I know.
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#193690 - 10/17/08 09:18 PM Re: Evolution & Loss of Faith [Re: Shane]
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You believe that God created everything, and if you want to say that you know you do, I won't say you're wrong.
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