I've read the entire book.

Is that to say it's not ok to ask questions to which we have no answers?

That's what I read in this statement.


And from the other posts what I'm hearing is: It's ok to ask questions. It's ok to ask questions that God doesn't want us to ask. It's a sin to ask, but that's ok, because God will forgive us for sinning.

OK, that's good to read the Story of Redemption. Have you read the first chapter of Patriarchs and Prophets, which deals with the same issue, and also the chapter in the Great Controversy, pp. 492-504? It is called "The Origin of Evil." Those chapters will give more detail and perhaps answer more of your questions.

Yeah, it's Ok to ask them, that's how you find out there are no answers.

So, you are telling me that it's just fine to sin against God, knowing that He will forgive me?

Because that's what it sounds like.

So, it stands to reason that it's ok to do anything, anything at all, sin however you like, just as long as you ask for forgiveness.

I don't think that's right. I think you guys are just pulling my leg, and making fun of me.

No.



I don't think it stands to reason at all.

However, God will forgive any sin if we are truly repentant of it and turn to Him in faith and ask His forgiveness.



I agree with you-- it isn't. I'm sorry you got the wrong impression.

I'm still not sure I understand.

The angels that aligned with satan were told by God's angels that they should ask God's forgiveness for even thinking of questioning God's authority. If one needs to ask forgiveness from God, then one must have sinned, no?

And we should not knowingly sin.

If it was wrong of the angels to question God's authority, then it must be wrong for us to ask that same question, no?

And if we can't ask, then how do we have freewill?

If we ask, we sin, and if we don't ask, or can't, aren't allowed, etc, etc,.... then we aren't really able to ask any question, right?

Stick to your Bible, what other humans think or say is always open to question. What you believe is between you and God, no one else. By the way, a certain author often spoke about having an 'experiential' knowledge of God. I will let you look up the definition and come to your own understanding of what that means w/o trying to influence you first!

We're obviously not angels, though, and it makes a big difference that we have never even seen God or heard him speak. Our only way of finding out these things is by asking questions and studying. So in my opinion, if we ask sincerely and honestly with a desire to learn truth, it is not not a sin to ask questions of the kind you are talking about.

As you read further about the issue, you'll find that many of the angels who had for a time sympathized with Lucifer returned to loyalty to God when they saw that Lucifer was wrong. He was wrong because he was in rebellion against the One who had given Him life. He was not merely seeking to know truth. He was motivated by jealousy and a desire to replace Christ. See especially Great Controversy, pp. 495-497.

Ok - so given that the chapter you are talking about is speaking of a point just BEFORE those very same angels who are questioning God - are about to engage in violent revolt against God...

And given that the angels speaking to them and urging them back into the fold - ALSO had the same chance to be duped by Lucifer as those angels they are counselling...

And Given that 2 chapters later you also read where Satan admits that had he not duped those Angels as he did -- they would not have fallen ...

Just what part of this 20-20-hind-sight scenario is at all mystifying?

in Christ,

Bob