Hmmmmmmmmm

I kinda figured you weren't looking for the answer. You have made up your mind and you just wanted to debate and proclaim your agenda.

Hmmmmmmmmm

And that makes them different from.........?

Yes. I had originally thought that he was serious when he said the following:



Now I know what he considers 'helpful' is only that which agrees with HIM.

philosophy = a set of questions that cannot be answered

religion = a set of answers that cannot be questioned



aldona

I disagree. And I don't think we have to agree with each other for me to find something helpful, useful, or for your wisdom to be appreciated.

I may not agree with what my doctor orders for me, but I still find it useful information.

I might not agree with what the auto mechanic says is wrong with my car, but I still appreciate the fact the he spent his time looking into the situation.

And I don't have to be swayed from my position, just because you make some valid points.

When you make the assumption that the only way your info is helpful, useful, or appreciated, is when I agree with your view point, then that margenalizes me and my view point.

I may or may not have made my mind up before asking the question, doesn't really matter either way. You clearly already had your mind made up when answering the question I posed, so how are we any different?

....very interesting....
Redwood....response....?

I am sticking with that answer -

Here are some of the the different negative shades of meaning that Webster gives for "question" - 1) a subject or point of debate or a proposition to be voted on in a meeting.

Of course we can vote to accept His authority or not in our lives, but do you really think His authority to rule is open to debate & vote?

2) objection, dispute; room for doubt or objection.

Do you object or dispute His authority to rule?

3) doubt, dispute.

Again, do you have doubts or want to dispute His authority to rule?

Gerry

Gerry,

No, I don't dispute or object to His authority to rule.

But that's not what I asked.

I asked "Is it ok to question God's authority?"

I'm not saying, nor implying, nor am I trying to dispute, weather or not God has the authority to rule.

What I am asking, is why it's wrong to do so? See the difference. I'm not asking the question, but actually asking why "asking" that question is wrong. I say it's "wrong" based on the evidence listed per the Story of Redemption.

While I don't have to ask the question, I wonder why we CAN'T ask the question. I know it seems kind of strange, but, I think it's important to understand with regards to our having "free will".

We had free will to eat of the tree of knowledge, even though it was against His will. But in this case, it seems that we aren't even allowed to ask, so it would be like not being able to eat of the tree, because His will is agasint it.

We are not allowed to question His authority, becuase He does not want us to. So, it would seem that I can't ask any question that I want(even though I'm told I can)? The evidence that leads me to this conclusion is that the angels did it, and they were removed from heaven, forever! They don't get a second chance, they can't ask forgiveness, they are eternally doomed, right?

So Gerry, it's not that I'm questioning God's authority. I'm just asking why we can't question it. As I've stated, I know what will happen if I do this, by reason of cause and effect, I'll be eternally doomed, just like those who did it before me.

So, it seems that there are some questions you can ask, and it's ok, even if you do or don't get an answer. But, if you ask certain questions, you will be out the door, on the other side, with no hope of re-entry.

And I'm still looking to discuss this matter. I'd still like to hear your point of view. I'd still like to know how you rationalize this question. I don't think this is about trying to persuade someone to your own point of view, it's just a question asked. We all have our own way of seeing things, and isn't that ok?

Getting Gerry to voice his opinion is a very difficult task.