Agree with everything you said.

It's a good thing to remember that the same has been said many times about the Bible itself. I'm sure we all know people who reject the Bible for the same reasons.

According to 1 and 2 Corinthians, there were a lot of people who didn't treat Paul with basic Christian courtesy as well. Also, look at how Jesus was often ill-treated, and most of the prophets of the Old Testament. All of the disciples except for John were killed.

There were struggles in the early Church from the first century clear up to the 16th century to accept all of the books of the New Testament.

For me all of this just shows that people can't be told what to accept and reject, but they have to come to faith in these things over a period of time and through personal growth and conviction. I'm glad our church doesn't make belief in the Spirit of prophecy a test of fellowship.

And a mystery also that there are numerous individuals who have not seen God as powerful or wise enough to give them victory over (sin)s revealed in His Word and by His servants, and have instead chosen the camp of the accuser of the brethren to neutralize the plain Truth.

"When Ahab saw Elijah, Ahab said to him, "Is this you, you troubler of Israel?"
He said, "I have not troubled Israel, but you and your father's house have, because you have forsaken the commandments of the LORD... " 1 Kings 18:17,18 NASB

"And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night."
Revelation 12:10 KJV
Regards!

I would like to post this statement by carolaa in response to what I had said ... In another thread.

Originally Posted By: Redwood
"The point is Glad ... that whatever the "brethren" decide and vote for is what the rest of us are required to believe. IF we don't then we are suppose to turn in our membership credentials.

They decided this in GC SESSION. Therefore we are OBLIGED to conform. "

NOW ... carolaa ....


"My understanding has always been that these kinds of proclamations are only guidelines, not requirements. You can find a lot of these in the Church Manual, and they are only guidelines to use when there is confusion on an issue, or for people who truly have questions about an issue. If you don't feel you need guidelines, then toss them out. No big deal. "

What do YOU think between these two opinions ???

Yikes, I'm being dragged into a controversy. Choose me, Stan, choose me.....

True - but as the statement above says -- the Spirit of Prophecy is GOD! The Third Person of the Trinity. It is through the Holy Spirit that ALL prophets were given ministry regardless of whether they were canonical prophets (Bible writers) or non-Canonical prophets (like Deborah and Nathan in O.T or like Philip's daughters and Ellen White in the N.T).

So you are of course correct to include many prophets in that secondary definition for Spirit of Prophecy as in "Those who were given the GIFT of Prophecy by God the Holy Spirit".

More recently I am also inclined to include www.4hispeople.com in that list of non-canonical ministries.

in Christ,

Bob

Is Jack Sequeira a legalist in your thinking? He also has a very high regard for Ellen White. All of his books contain dozens of her quotes, and the last book of his that I read has 3 solid pages of her quotes, besides all the quotes throughout the text. He seldom quotes anyone else. He's obviously quoting her as an authority.

It could be that the people you refer to as legalists are not legalists at all.

Yes, but the quotes he uses you seem to disagree with. You'll say he takes them out of context. The fact is that what Jack teaches and what you teach are miles apart.



Dream on. The Bible is Jack's authority.

Ellen White is now considered to be a part of the New Testament?