Anyone hear anything else besides a typical New Year's sermon?

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#19775 - 01/03/05 02:31 AM Re: Anyone hear anything else besides a typical New Year's sermon? [Re: sweettrini]
Nan Benevolent Physician Registered: 04/07/00 Posts: 6043 Loc: Sydney,Australia	The church was the Italian church in Sydney with an attendance of about 20. We are not members there, had gone because my husband had taken the SS lesson. The minister was a visiting speaker and he did not give any clues. He just gave a timely and appreciated message. (This is summer in this country and many of the regular ministers are on holiday. This church shares a pastor who is currently on leave and retiring soon to his native Greece.)
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#19776 - 01/03/05 02:38 AM Re: Anyone hear anything else besides a typical New Year's sermon? [Re: Alure19]
Anonymous Unregistered	Ok,,thanks for the reply... I was just thinking...of how I ocassionally give a homeless streetperson some money and if they think it is timely after they say God bless to me..
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#19777 - 01/03/05 04:35 AM Re: Anyone hear anything else besides a typical New Year's sermon? [Re: sweettrini]
Nan Benevolent Physician Registered: 04/07/00 Posts: 6043 Loc: Sydney,Australia	Any thing given in love should be timely....even if only for the giver. But I would imagine the recipient is sincere in that statement also.
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#19778 - 01/03/05 04:58 AM Re: Anyone hear anything else besides a typical New Year's sermon? [Re: Alure19]
darlene Make It Happen Registered: 07/06/02 Posts: 3179 Loc: British Columbia, Canada	I'm really glad not all pastors meet your standard in sermon presentation, JimBob. I think a biblical, theological sermon without anything that applies to our lives would be a very boring sermon. Don't mean to be rude, just trying to let you know that what one person likes in a sermon is not always what other people like in a sermon. The standard you use to measure a sermon may not be the standard that another person uses. We have a very wonderful and effective pastor who, though not a super dynamic presenter, gives very effective and thought provoking sermons. This week he first of all talked about the disaster in the Pacific Rim and the unselfish service needed to deal with this situation and then challenged us to let the Lord use us in service; service in our community by helping people, service in giving Bible studies, service in doing work to prepare our church for an evangelistic series in the Fall of 2005, and service in giving our whole heart to God and letting Him use us in His service. What better sermon is there than one that draws us into a closer relationship with Jesus? Now, that's what I call a good sermon!
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#19779 - 01/03/05 04:53 PM Re: Anyone hear anything else besides a typical New Year's sermon? [Re: meek]
Anonymous Unregistered	Quote: I'm really glad not all pastors meet your standard in sermon presentation, JimBob. You aren't alone by a long shot...there are many out there who can't endure doctrine. Quote: I think a biblical, theological sermon without anything that applies to our lives would be a very boring sermon. I agree..and does this phrase of yours mean that that is what my standard is?? How many times have I mentioned that a sermon needs to be clear , relevant, timely and practical for contemporary times?? Quote: Don't mean to be rude, just trying to let you know that what one person likes in a sermon is not always what other people like in a sermon. The standard you use to measure a sermon may not be the standard that another person uses. of course..that is why I call them clueles and or poorly trained. Quote: We have a very wonderful and effective pastor who, though not a super dynamic presenter, gives very effective and thought provoking sermons. This week he first of all talked about the disaster in the Pacific Rim and the unselfish service needed to deal with this situation and then challenged us to let the Lord use us in service; service in our community by helping people, service in giving Bible studies, service in doing work to prepare our church for an evangelistic series in the Fall of 2005, and service in giving our whole heart to God and letting Him use us in His service. What better sermon is there than one that draws us into a closer relationship with Jesus? Now, that's what I call a good sermon! Yep and everyone went home and did everything he mentioned and were sanctified and will be soon ready for translation. None went home to the same worldly rut there were already in.. When was the last time you were at a sports event with cheerleaders...how long does the euphoria last??? TILL THE GAME IS OVER! TILL THE WORSHIP SERVICE IS OVER!! Darlene..thanks for the reply...like I say..most pastors are clueless and or poorly trained. Of course most of the members will come back next week to get their religious pep talk and theological therapy session.
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#19780 - 01/03/05 05:11 PM Re: Anyone hear anything else besides a typical New Year's sermon? [Re: sweettrini]
Nicodema Registered: 11/22/03 Posts: 777 Loc: Beyond your grasp	I'd like to hear some bold sermons where SDA preachers trained in understanding eschatological Bible prophecy demonstrate clearly the significance of events transpiring right now (and I'm not talking the tsunami here, folks, though it's fine if they want to include that too) and boldly stand up against the beast that is on the rise. That would slay my day and make my cake. _________________________ "After such knowledge, what forgiveness?" -- T.S. Eliot
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#19781 - 01/03/05 05:20 PM Re: Anyone hear anything else besides a typical New Year's sermon? [Re: ]
Anonymous Unregistered	That would be nice Nico..I think there are a couple...usually in the religious liberty camp... the thing that gets me is how authentic???...it is usally a bunch of current event speculation. Has happened so often even to EGW..where the use contemporary events to interpret prophecy.. I remember John Stevens from the Pacific Union Conference putting out ..Earth's Fading Freedom quarterly news brochure..was always interesting with beast, and catholic news
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