#201076 - 11/19/08 12:43 PM
Re: Rick Warren
[Re: Shane]
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Sometimes when I am driving around I listen to Chuck Swindol, who btw is a native Houstonian, and here lately he had the temerity to preach on various parts of Daniel, most recently dan. 12. I say temerity because his interpretation of prophecy is totally whack. He was talking about all that 'after the church gets raptured, and 'being saved after the 7 years of tribulation jibber jabber. Malarky!
He's either blissfully ignorant or he is deliberately evading the truth on these issues.
DB
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#201100 - 11/19/08 06:39 PM
Re: Rick Warren
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Sometimes when I am driving around I listen to Chuck Swindol, who btw is a native Houstonian, and here lately he had the temerity to preach on various parts of Daniel, most recently dan. 12. I say temerity because his interpretation of prophecy is totally whack. He was talking about all that 'after the church gets raptured, and 'being saved after the 7 years of tribulation jibber jabber. Malarky!
He's either blissfully ignorant or he is deliberately evading the truth on these issues.
DB A good description of Houstonians. lol 
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#201102 - 11/19/08 06:42 PM
Re: Rick Warren
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He's either blissfully ignorant or he is deliberately evading the truth on these issues.
DB
Both happen, unfortunately. God's word calls it "being willingly [intentionally] ignorant" of the truth.
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#201108 - 11/19/08 08:05 PM
Re: Rick Warren
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I think he probably has just as much good to say as Ellen White. As it stands, I find this truly astonishing, to say the least. Is it possible that I misunderstand you or that you intended to say something beyond your simple statement here? For instance, do you mean that Rick has a much good to say on a particular topic? How can anyone who understands the work of Ellen White say that Rick Warren has as much good to say as the Lord's messenger whose writings are a continuing and authoritative source of truth which provide for the church guidance, instruction, and correction? 18. The Gift of Prophecy:
One of the gifts of the Holy Spirit is prophecy. This gift is an identifying mark of the remnant church and was manifested in the ministry of Ellen. G. White . As the Lord's messenger, her writings are a continuing and authoritative source of truth which provide for the church comfort, guidance, instruction, and correction. They also make clear that the Bible is the standard by which all teaching and experience must be tested. (Joel 2:28, 29; Acts 2:14-21; Heb. 1:1-3; Rev. 12:17; 19:10.)
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#201150 - 11/20/08 01:39 AM
Re: Rick Warren
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I think he probably has just as much good to say as Ellen White. As it stands, I find this truly astonishing, to say the least. Is it possible that I misunderstand you or that you intended to say something beyond your simple statement here? For instance, do you mean that Rick has a much good to say on a particular topic? How can anyone who understands the work of Ellen White say that Rick Warren has as much good to say as the Lord's messenger whose writings are a continuing and authoritative source of truth which provide for the church guidance, instruction, and correction? 18. The Gift of Prophecy:
One of the gifts of the Holy Spirit is prophecy. This gift is an identifying mark of the remnant church and was manifested in the ministry of Ellen. G. White . As the Lord's messenger, her writings are a continuing and authoritative source of truth which provide for the church comfort, guidance, instruction, and correction. They also make clear that the Bible is the standard by which all teaching and experience must be tested. (Joel 2:28, 29; Acts 2:14-21; Heb. 1:1-3; Rev. 12:17; 19:10.) Let me make a guess .... I am willing to guess that Rick Warren has brought more people to Christ in his life time so far ... than Ellen White did in her entire life time. Just a guess but I think it is a safe one. I am not talking about doctrine here. I am talking about the Gospel and bringing people to Christ. As I have always said . I agree with the above doctrine regarding Ellen White. But I don't claim to believe in it the same way as you. I happen to believe that there are many in our church and out of our church whose writings are a 'continuing and authoritative source of truth' on varied topics. The doctrine at this point ... just lists Ellen White ... which is fine. I don't think we really need to list them but that is fine. So far ... "The messenger of God" has the most votes of any catagory and I think that is most accurate. After all ... we are ALL to be a messenger of God. BTW ... this was the title that Ellen White gave herself and I think it is the one that each of us should have.
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#201167 - 11/20/08 03:50 AM
Re: Rick Warren
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I think he probably has just as much good to say as Ellen White. As it stands, I find this truly astonishing, to say the least. Is it possible that I misunderstand you or that you intended to say something beyond your simple statement here? For instance, do you mean that Rick has a much good to say on a particular topic? How can anyone who understands the work of Ellen White say that Rick Warren has as much good to say as the Lord's messenger whose writings are a continuing and authoritative source of truth which provide for the church guidance, instruction, and correction? 18. The Gift of Prophecy:
One of the gifts of the Holy Spirit is prophecy. This gift is an identifying mark of the remnant church and was manifested in the ministry of Ellen. G. White . As the Lord's messenger, her writings are a continuing and authoritative source of truth which provide for the church comfort, guidance, instruction, and correction. They also make clear that the Bible is the standard by which all teaching and experience must be tested. (Joel 2:28, 29; Acts 2:14-21; Heb. 1:1-3; Rev. 12:17; 19:10.) Let me make a guess .... I am willing to guess that Rick Warren has brought more people to Christ in his life time so far ... than Ellen White did in her entire life time. Your original statement was that you thought Rick Warren has as much good to say as Ellen White.
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#201173 - 11/20/08 04:48 AM
Re: Rick Warren
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So far ... "The messenger of God" has the most votes of any catagory and I think that is most accurate. After all ... we are ALL to be a messenger of God.
Well, I think some people are messengers of Satan but that is a topic for another thread.
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