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#242053 - 05/09/09 10:06 PM Re: The Paternity Test of Danny Shelton [Re: pkrause]
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O.K. Sometimes saying a little produces more speculation than either saying nothing or a lot.

I will attempt to give a brief and fair summation in a few words as to what has gone on with the parentage test:

1) Danny presented himself, his wife and a child for the DNA test, which took place.

2) The phyician who conducted the testing has posted a description of the test proceedures that raise considerable questions in regard to who the child was that was presented to be tested.

3) Those who are thought to be defenders of 3-ABN and Danny, have responded with substantial rubbutals to the issues raised by the physician who conducted the test. The have also attacked that physician in regard to some important issues on another subject that raise some substantial questions in regard to that MD.

4) My opinion:
a) It is clear to me that Danny and the MD did not have a common understanding of certain aspects of the test proceedures. That should have been more clearly spelled out.
b) Danny made a mistake in judgement in that he attempted to repreesent himelf so to speak. He should have had one of his lawyerss handle the arrangemesnts for his side of the agreement. That would have gone a long way to prevent misunderstanding.






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#243930 - 05/17/09 12:38 PM Re: The Paternity Test of Danny Shelton [Re: Gregory Matthews]
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Wow... the post from today disappeared pretty quickly

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#243932 - 05/17/09 12:41 PM Re: The Paternity Test of Danny Shelton [Re: timewarp]
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#243933 - 05/17/09 12:42 PM Re: The Paternity Test of Danny Shelton [Re: timewarp]
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You mean the one from Daryl ?
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#243949 - 05/17/09 01:26 PM Re: The Paternity Test of Danny Shelton [Re: timewarp]
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Originally Posted By: timewarp
Wow... the post from today disappeared pretty quickly


Good!

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#243969 - 05/17/09 02:42 PM Re: The Paternity Test of Danny Shelton [Re: Derrell M]
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There are links to private information there. Pictures of a child and other very personal information.

My expectation of this event was not even close to being met and am very disappointed with the spin given to this response.

The simple ness of this is
a- they took the mothers DNA
b- they took the Child's DNA
c- they took her husbands DNA

Almost everything else was spin.. marginalizing the real event to focus on trivial.

To me, in my opinion, this was more about every woman who feels they were mistreated by their X then it was about the person involved.

Am almost expecting someone to day he was able to bring back her deceased twin for a substitute.

There is so much hate folks are not able to think straight.

I still appreciate DM comment in the beginning about keep that side of the family out of it.
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#243980 - 05/17/09 03:14 PM Re: The Paternity Test of Danny Shelton [Re: Stan Jensen]
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Originally Posted By: Stan
The simple ness of this is
a- they took the mothers DNA
b- they took the Child's DNA
c- they took her husbands DNA

I'm not into this issue enough to take sides. However, the Dr's claim was that the child's ID was not established according to the parameters agreed to by the parties involved. True?

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#244001 - 05/17/09 04:02 PM Re: The Paternity Test of Danny Shelton [Re: timewarp]
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think about this.they have the mothers DNA and the childs. There should be SOMEWAY of testing that.

There is more than one type of testing

The results should have been 3-4 days

As a communication person I am wondering if they ate going to do spin. Or just make a short statement.

Everyone needs to raise the bar
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#244004 - 05/17/09 04:10 PM Re: The Paternity Test of Danny Shelton [Re: Stan Jensen]
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Originally Posted By: Stan Jensen
think about this.they have the mothers DNA and the childs. There should be SOMEWAY of testing that.

There is more than one type of testing

The results should have been 3-4 days

As a communication person I am wondering if they ate going to do spin. Or just make a short statement.

Everyone needs to raise the bar

No argument. It's just that today I read the text on the link provided (for a short time) and there is definitely 2 opposing sides to this issue. Up to today, I didn't know what the big deal was. I do think that, spin or no spin, one side seems to be reneging on their part of the agreement.

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#244084 - 05/17/09 07:12 PM Re: The Paternity Test of Danny Shelton [Re: Stan Jensen]
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Originally Posted By: Stan Jensen


The simple ness of this is
a- they took the mothers DNA
b- they took the Child's DNA
c- they took her husbands DNA



Just the facts man. Prevent speculation by making it clear.

Who is referred to above as "the mother?"
Who is referred to as "the child?"
Who is referred to as "her husband?"
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#244189 - 05/17/09 10:06 PM Re: The Paternity Test of Danny Shelton [Re: oldsailor29]
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In my opinion the fact that this test and all of its accompanying pictures, documents and speculation has been turned into a public circus is despicable. There is a child at the center of this, and no matter what a person's views and issues are regarding the adults, it is inexcusable to make a public spectacle out of the question of a child's parentage, or even to discuss a child in the context of scandal, as has been done. Private tests are fine, but there is no justification for bringing children into public humiliation and scandal.


Edited by Friend (05/17/09 10:09 PM)

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#244192 - 05/17/09 10:14 PM Re: The Paternity Test of Danny Shelton [Re: Derrell M]
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amen!!!!!
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#244211 - 05/17/09 11:14 PM Re: The Paternity Test of Danny Shelton [Re: Stan Jensen]
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I don't watch 3ABN all that often but I know a bunch of people that do. I am not so sure they would want to just let Danny slide if he did something pretty heinous. These people really loved and now miss Linda (the ones I have talked to think she got the short end of the stick, this was even before this DNA thing).

I will just keep watching the kids singing and playing instruments when I get a chance. They are a hoot.

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#244218 - 05/17/09 11:39 PM Re: The Paternity Test of Danny Shelton [Re: timewarp]
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Maybe he did do something heinous and she probably did get the short end of the stick. Adults have a resposibility to suck it up and protect kids from public humiliation and discussion even if it means sacrificing their own pride.

Enjoy watching. Yes, they are a hoot... lol.

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#244239 - 05/18/09 05:53 AM Re: The Paternity Test of Danny Shelton [Re: Derrell M]
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Originally Posted By: Friend
In my opinion the fact that this test and all of its accompanying pictures, documents and speculation has been turned into a public circus is despicable. There is a child at the center of this, and no matter what a person's views and issues are regarding the adults, it is inexcusable to make a public spectacle out of the question of a child's parentage, or even to discuss a child in the context of scandal, as has been done. Private tests are fine, but there is no justification for bringing children into public humiliation and scandal.


This is not about the child. The child does not need to be named. Hiding the truth behind the child, using the child as a shield is the really despicable aspect of all this. All that needs to be known is if Linda was pregnant before her divorce from Danny, and if she was, is Danny the father or not? If Danny was wronged, then all this shroud of secrecy is not doing 3ABN any good. If Danny was not wronged, then I fully understand all the reluctance to admit it. Lift the shroud and let the 3ABN fans freely donate or not, based on knowledge of truth, without fear of being taken for fools.
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#244264 - 05/18/09 09:05 AM Re: The Paternity Test of Danny Shelton [Re: timewarp]
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Originally Posted By: timewarp
Originally Posted By: Stan
The simple ness of this is
a- they took the mothers DNA
b- they took the Child's DNA
c- they took her husbands DNA

I'm not into this issue enough to take sides. However, the Dr's claim was that the child's ID was not established according to the parameters agreed to by the parties involved. True?


No. They did not have a common understanding of some aspects of the testing.
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#244265 - 05/18/09 09:08 AM Re: The Paternity Test of Danny Shelton [Re: oldsailor29]
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The woman involved is NOT Linda Shelton. It is Brandi (Brandy) Shelton.

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#244294 - 05/18/09 11:40 AM Re: The Paternity Test of Danny Shelton [Re: Gregory Matthews]
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Originally Posted By: Gregory Matthews
The woman involved is NOT Linda Shelton. It is Brandi (Brandy) Shelton.



Exactly why the facts should be revealed, instead of covering identities of involved parties.

So, (leaving the innocent child out of it as much as possible) Brandi bought a pregnancy test kit after Danny had a vasectomy? If so, how long after? I know it takes a while for the procedure to take effect. And how long after their marriage did this take place? And if the child is not Danny's, does he intend to divorce Brandi? If not, why bother with the DNA test, and all the negative publicity, and why even bring Linda's name into this matter at all?

Or, was Brandi already pregnant when they got married, and Danny is claiming they didn't have sex before then, or until well after his vasectomy?

All this speculation comes because the facts are not known. None of this stuff really matters to me, but if I was a 3ABN fan, I think I would want to know the facts. While this may not be the proper venue for the facts to be revealed, they should be made available somewhere. And the only problem I see is that one or more of the parties involved has created a lot of mental and even physical discomfort for the others, and I would like to know who created all this anguish for who.

If this information is not going to be available here, somebody tell me where. I want the whole truth.
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#244318 - 05/18/09 02:43 PM Re: The Paternity Test of Danny Shelton [Re: oldsailor29]
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I for one am a 3abn fan, and I for one think that it is none of our business. I do remember in a earlier post mentioning why we can't just leave them all in piece. And than later saying that now that people have brought this out we should let it all out. But I really think this is between them and God the ultimate judge.

pk
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#244331 - 05/18/09 04:09 PM Re: The Paternity Test of Danny Shelton [Re: oldsailor29]
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I am only a bystander in this, but have followed discussions...

As far as I have gathered

Danny decided to divorce Linda several years ago, I think 2004.

Linda bought a pregnancy test and left it where Danny would find it, as a form of joke, which backfired.

Sometime later Brandi showed up at 3ABN with her 3 daughters, and subsequently married Danny.

The paternity test was undertaken to prove that Danny is not the father of Brandi's youngest child. Such accusations have been around - I think Brandi and her former partner had separated by the time the little girl was born.

If these statements are not factual there are others with more knowledge than I who can correct them.





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#244368 - 05/18/09 08:47 PM Re: The Paternity Test of Danny Shelton [Re: Nan]
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The plot thickens. :)

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#244380 - 05/18/09 09:59 PM Re: The Paternity Test of Danny Shelton [Re: Nan]
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Originally Posted By: Nan
I am only a bystander in this, but have followed discussions...

As far as I have gathered

Danny decided to divorce Linda several years ago, I think 2004.

Linda bought a pregnancy test and left it where Danny would find it, as a form of joke, which backfired.

Sometime later Brandi showed up at 3ABN with her 3 daughters, and subsequently married Danny.

The paternity test was undertaken to prove that Danny is not the father of Brandi's youngest child. Such accusations have been around - I think Brandi and her former partner had separated by the time the little girl was born.

If these statements are not factual there are others with more knowledge than I who can correct them.






This sounds like the truth.
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#244436 - 05/19/09 05:14 AM Re: The Paternity Test of Danny Shelton [Re: Gregory Matthews]
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Originally Posted By: Gregory Matthews
O.K. Sometimes saying a little produces more speculation than either saying nothing or a lot.

I will attempt to give a brief and fair summation in a few words as to what has gone on with the parentage test:

1) Danny presented himself, his wife and a child for the DNA test, which took place.

2) The phyician who conducted the testing has posted a description of the test proceedures that raise considerable questions in regard to who the child was that was presented to be tested.

3) Those who are thought to be defenders of 3-ABN and Danny, have responded with substantial rubbutals to the issues raised by the physician who conducted the test. The have also attacked that physician in regard to some important issues on another subject that raise some substantial questions in regard to that MD.

4) My opinion:
a) It is clear to me that Danny and the MD did not have a common understanding of certain aspects of the test proceedures. That should have been more clearly spelled out.
b) Danny made a mistake in judgement in that he attempted to repreesent himelf so to speak. He should have had one of his lawyerss handle the arrangemesnts for his side of the agreement. That would have gone a long way to prevent misunderstanding.




Now that the issues are clear to me,

1. There was question if Danny was the bio dad of Brandi's youngest, with whom Brandi was pregnant before they were married, or even before Danny and Linda divorced?
2. A doctor took DNA material for testing from Danny, Brandi, and a child?
3. But now there is still a question as to which child was brought in for testing?

Well, people make mistakes and if the child is Danny's, I can understand. It would be difficult for people in their situation not to have affairs. We have all seen similar things happen in the past, but we never seem to learn that it is never a good idea to try to hide the truth of the matter. There is forgiveness in our hearts, but it cannot be given if the truth is hidden.

I used to watch 3ABN, and though IMHO, neither Danny nor Linda were quite right for their parts, I thought Linda came across as the more sincere person, and I think 3ABN would be doing much better if she was the one who stayed.
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#244586 - 05/19/09 09:18 PM Re: The Paternity Test of Danny Shelton [Re: oldsailor29]
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Wasn't thinking about the child aspect when I posted those links, therefore, I support Stan for doing what he did.
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#244588 - 05/19/09 09:25 PM Re: The Paternity Test of Danny Shelton [Re: Daryl Fawcett]
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DF

I am so sorry, I had meant to tell you why, one of those things that falls when too many things are going on in someone's life.

OldSailor

I learned in war zones, the first causality in war is truth, divorce is not that much different. Both sides of this horrible incident has 'facts' that contradict other 'facts'.

We have chosen not to discuss this any more on here as it has gone from discussion to slander and far worse..

Am closing this, if you would like links to some sites that are heavily involved in this just message me.
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