#319686 - 01/09/10 11:39 PM
Re: Daily Bible Trivial facts
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dgrimm60,
Sorry, guess I got carried away. It just seemed to me that priests probably sweat in the summer time in spite of linen clothes. Then I carried it too far to talk about the church and school.
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#319834 - 01/10/10 01:38 PM
Re: Daily Bible Trivial facts
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LOL It's amazing what can thoughts a word can bring out!
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#319842 - 01/10/10 01:54 PM
Re: Daily Bible Trivial facts
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Here is a "not-so-trivial" thought: 23 I am torn between the two: I desire to depart and be with Christ, which is better by far;
24 but it is more necessary for you that I remain in the body. Philippians 1:23,24 (NIV) These verses suggest that Paul was offered translation, which he declined as he felt he was needed by the churches. But let's look at the context: 20 I eagerly expect and hope that I will in no way be ashamed, but will have sufficient courage so that now as always Christ will be exalted in my body, whether by life or by death.
21 For to me, to live is Christ and to die is gain.
22 If I am to go on living in the body, this will mean fruitful labor for me. Yet what shall I choose? I do not know!
23 I am torn between the two: I desire to depart and be with Christ, which is better by far;
24 but it is more necessary for you that I remain in the body.
25 Convinced of this, I know that I will remain, and I will continue with all of you for your progress and joy in the faith, Philippians 1:20-25 (NIV) Here it now seems that Paul is comparing rest from his trials in death, as compared to living and working for the churches. While it might seem easier to die and be free of his problems, he is choosing to live on as long as Christ should desire him to.
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#319848 - 01/10/10 02:08 PM
Re: Daily Bible Trivial facts
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These verses suggest that Paul was offered translation, which he declined as he felt he was needed by the churches. I don't see where you get that Paul was offered translation at all from these verses. He was simply stating his desire.
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#319849 - 01/10/10 02:10 PM
Re: Daily Bible Trivial facts
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These verses suggest that Paul was offered translation, which he declined as he felt he was needed by the churches. So, Paul was offered translation, but he disagreed with God?
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#319906 - 01/10/10 04:29 PM
Re: Daily Bible Trivial facts
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Here is a "not-so-trivial" thought: 23 I am torn between the two: I desire to depart and be with Christ, which is better by far;
24 but it is more necessary for you that I remain in the body. Philippians 1:23,24 (NIV) These verses suggest that Paul was offered translation, which he declined as he felt he was needed by the churches. hmmmm, my first reaction is to say no, but you may have a point. the verses would then be much easier to explain than we have traditionally. it also seems to be in keeping with the self-sacrificial spirit we rarely notice, that of wishing himself accursed if his fellow jews could be saved at his loss. but i would have to study it more...... :)
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Joh 14:27 Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid.
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#320067 - 01/10/10 09:06 PM
Re: Daily Bible Trivial facts
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These verses suggest that Paul was offered translation, which he declined as he felt he was needed by the churches. I don't see where you get that Paul was offered translation at all from these verses. He was simply stating his desire. I have to agree with you rudywoofs. pk
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#320139 - 01/11/10 01:06 AM
Re: Daily Bible Trivial facts
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Rudy, now for an English lesson: 23 I am torn between the two: I desire to depart and be with Christ, which is better by far;
24 but it is more necessary for you that I remain in the body. Philippians 1:23,24 (NIV) 1) Paul was torn between two choices. 2) One choice was to depart and be with Christ (translated). One possibility was that this meant that he had a choice to be translated. The other possibility was that he could die and wait for the resurrection. The context of the other verses suggest this, but it leaves open the concept of going to heaven at death, which we deny. 3) The other choice, which he took was to remain and serve his churches, which they very much needed.
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#320141 - 01/11/10 01:15 AM
Re: Daily Bible Trivial facts
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Why does everyone assume I need English lessons?
I still think Paul was just stating his desire. That's just my opinion. I could be wrong.
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#320219 - 01/11/10 12:41 PM
Re: Daily Bible Trivial facts
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Anna was an 84-year-old prophet who praised God for the baby Jesus at the Temple in Jerusalem. Luke 2:36-38
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#320273 - 01/11/10 03:33 PM
Re: Daily Bible Trivial facts
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Why does everyone assume I need English lessons?
I still think Paul was just stating his desire. That's just my opinion. I could be wrong. Don't apologies for your thoughts or what you believe is correct. We each have a right to what we think this particular text says. And besides our salvation is not going to be thrown out because we've incorrectly interpreted this passage. And besides, not that I'm smarter than anyone else, I agree with you and dgrimm on this. pk
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#320286 - 01/11/10 04:00 PM
Re: Daily Bible Trivial facts
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Why does everyone assume I need English lessons?
I still think Paul was just stating his desire. That's just my opinion. I could be wrong.
You're not mistaken. As I pointed out, if Paul was offered translation and refused, then he was disagreeing with God. Paul was simply tired of living in prison. He thought death preferable. And his next conscious awareness would be in God's presence.
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#320289 - 01/11/10 04:22 PM
Re: Daily Bible Trivial facts
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Thanks, TB. I perhaps should have waited another day before going on to the next trivia fact.
I DO, however, really enjoy feedback and discussion! I'm glad to see that people are awake!
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#321055 - 01/13/10 03:59 PM
Re: Daily Bible Trivial facts
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Jesus fasted for 40 days in the desert. Matthew 4:2 says, "...he was hungry." Imagine that! :)
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#321257 - 01/13/10 10:50 PM
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Jesus fasted for 40 days in the desert. Matthew 4:2 says, "...he was hungry." Imagine that! :) It is amazing what he went through for us. pk
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#323570 - 01/18/10 04:25 PM
Re: Daily Bible Trivial facts
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Goliath challenged the Israelites twice a day for 40 days. 1 Samuel 17:16
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#324049 - 01/19/10 01:54 PM
Re: Daily Bible Trivial facts
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While Deborah judged Israel, the people lived in peace for 40 years. Behind every peaceful country, there is a good woman- Judges 5:31
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#324060 - 01/19/10 02:18 PM
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I think that was an aside. I think that women hold the real power in the world... 
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#324249 - 01/19/10 09:16 PM
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GAIL
YES THERE WAS PEACE AND THE LAND RESTED
but I DONT SEE in the bible about peaceful countries
and good women
smile smile smile smile smile
dgrimm60 Your not looking hard enough dgrimm. pk
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#324466 - 01/20/10 12:24 PM
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Elijah divided the Jordan with his coat, of all things- 2 Ki.2:8
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#324966 - 01/21/10 03:10 PM
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Elisha was left with Elijah's coat and used it to part the Jordan again- 2 Kings 2:14
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#325197 - 01/21/10 09:29 PM
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GAIL
WOW so both of them parted water with the same coat
dgrimm60 So in reality it was the coat and not the men? :) pk
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#327232 - 01/26/10 02:26 PM
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LOL It was God, sillies! Neither men nor coats can part the water!
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#327234 - 01/26/10 02:36 PM
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The Lord wil split the Euphrates into seven streams "so that men can cross in sandals" (Isaiah 11:15)
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