It might need a little help from someone to clarify it. Because there are those that know the original language and the translation of the words, that we do not know.

pk

Indeed. that is correct.

in Christ,

Bob

Amen!


However I would add that prior to that time people were fully forgiven of sins through the blood of Christ. For God is one who "counts those things that are not as though they were" since He is not bound by Time. Therefore Elijah fully forgiven by the blood of Christ - goes to heaven. Enoch fully forgiven by the blood of Christ - goes to heaven. Moses fully forgiven by the blood of Christ is raised from the dead in a glorified body and is taken to heaven (see the book "the Assumption of Moses").

Christ in Luke 5 says "your sins ARE forgiven" to the man lowered through the ceiling.

in Christ,

Bob

Heb 8 and 9 speak to the High Priestly work of Christ that started with his ascension into the Heavenly sanctuary.

Heb 7 says that this transition to His Role as High Priest required a change in the laws regarding sacrifices. Heb 10 says in fact that all laws regarding sacrifices ended at the cross.

Daniel 7 says that as soon as the work in heaven regarding judgment -- ends with "Judgment passed in favor of the saints" THEN the saints will stop being persecuted and THEN they will inhert the kingdom that will have been handed over to Christ.

Lev 16 says that BOTH the work of Christ as the "lamb of God" (Atoning Sacrifice) AND the work of Christ as "The High Priest on day of Atonement" is required for "Atonement to be complete".

1John 2:2 (NIV) says that the "Atoning Sacrifice" was completed on the cross.

Indeed - it is all in scripture and none of it is "proven" in anyway via Ellen White.

She provides some details -- fine tune facts -- but the doctrine itself stands or falls "sola scriptura" as is the case with ALL doctrine.

NO SDA doctrine can ever come from the work of an extra biblical prophet. Not even from Ellen White.

in Christ,

Bob

So if you believe those things does that make them true? One must try to find what is truth and not just try to prove that what we believe is right is in fact right.....mel

Yes, it can be, and has.

See a recently published book, which can be obtained from the ABC or ordered online or through the ABC--

http://www.investigativejudgmentgospel.org/default.htm

All the evidence in the book is based on Scripture alone.

So if you don't want to believe those things, does that make them untrue?

Mel, try to find what is truth and not just try to prove it is wrong. Be open minded and study the topic by reading both sides of the issue.

Have you read the Daniel and Revelation Committee Series?

How about this book:

http://www.investigativejudgmentgospel.org/default.htm

This looks like a very interesting book. We just finished "Daniel" by Shea, and it goes through, obviously all of Daniel, but the IJ as well. When I get a chance I might purchase this book about the IJ by Shea.

pk

The most important question in our time, is what is Jesus doing for us right now?

Twilight

Why is the sanctuary so important?

Clue:

Sanctification.



Answers on a postcard please?