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#201915 - 2008-11-24 20:47:52 Re: 17. The Gift of Prophecy: [Re: John317]
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Originally Posted By: John317
The point is that the book of Revelation points to a group that God raises up to proclaim the Three Angels Messages, and they have certain identifying marks.


But that group is not the remnant! Remember that the Jews were raised to usher in the Messiah. Were they the remnant?

Answer: Romans 11:1 I ask then: Did God reject his people? By no means! I am an Israelite myself, a descendant of Abraham, from the tribe of Benjamin. 2 God did not reject his people, whom he foreknew. Don't you know what the Scripture says in the passage about Elijah--how he appealed to God against Israel: 3 "Lord, they have killed your prophets and torn down your altars; I am the only one left, and they are trying to kill me"? 4 And what was God's answer to him? "I have reserved for myself seven thousand who have not bowed the knee to Baal." 5 So too, at the present time there is a remnant chosen by grace. 6 And if by grace, then it is no longer by works; if it were, grace would no longer be grace. 7 What then? What Israel sought so earnestly it did not obtain, but the elect did. The others were hardened, 8 as it is written: "God gave them a spirit of stupor, eyes so that they could not see and ears so that they could not hear, to this very day."

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God raised up the SDA church for the specific purpose of giving the three angeles messages of REv. 14.


I'll agree with that...but which gospel? There are about 7 different gospels within Adventism.
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#237976 - 2009-04-24 02:58:31 Re: 17. The Gift of Prophecy: [Re: Woody]
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#237999 - 2009-04-24 07:11:12 Re: 17. The Gift of Prophecy: [Re: True-believer]
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"The gift of prophecy" was argued for by Uriah Smith (Intro to Patriarchs and Prophets) and by C.F Cottrell (Intro to Spiritual Gifts vol 1) - was never "for one more prophet -- and her name is Ellen White".

But this is exactly how many SDAs today imagine the argument.

Rather they argued for the "continuation of spiritual gifts INCLUDING Prophecy" as an ongoing "contemporary" need. They never considered that deceased prophets from centuries gone by were the fulfillment of the argument that they were making.

I find that facinating.

In 2SM 57 Ellen White predicts that when God sends future prophets to the SDA church - our own leadership will reject them.

in Christ,

Bob

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#238001 - 2009-04-24 07:13:22 Re: 17. The Gift of Prophecy: [Re: wicklunds]
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Originally Posted By: wicklunds
These quotes are exactly why I avoid Atoday...


Good point.

in Christ,

Bob

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#238003 - 2009-04-24 07:15:48 Re: 17. The Gift of Prophecy: [Re: nishaun]
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Originally Posted By: nishaun
This is a quote from a letter I gave to someone who was tryin to convince me that there could be no more prophets....

The problem with your point of understanding is that a prophet is just someone that gets a revelation that is not in the Bible, verbatim. ALL Christians need such revelations. You claim that God would never tell a prophet, like E.G. White, to build a church here or a school there. But ask yourself, does God give you "extra-biblical" information; you seem to be someone who would pray to God and ask him whether you should move your family here or take a job there. Where in the Bible does it tell you to move your family here, are you a false prophet, then? ALL Christians need new revelations. It is called having a personal relationship with God! God will always give new revelations, because God will always give you revelations.

He responded by saying he would never ask God a personal question, like if a job was right for him,



How sad that your friend must turn away from God to defend his biased views against the Holy Spirit.

As for my views on what "the Bible tells us to do" in the case of Prophets.

I have posted that several times -- and a couple of people object strenuously to the texts presented.

Still I prefer the Bible on this point.


Including the Amos 3:7 part of the Bible
"Surely the Lord does nothing but He reveals His secrets to His servants the prophets".

Including the Prov 29 part of the Bible
"Where there is no vision the people perish"

Including the 1Cor 14:1 part of the Bible
"Desire earnestly spiritual gifts but especially that you may prophesy"

Including the 1Thess 5:19-20 part of the Bible
"Do not quench the Spirit. Do not despise prophetic messages"

Including the Matt 23 part of the Bible
"I will send you prophets".

Those who argue "just give me the Bible" but then feverishly oppose the bible statements above are in reality arguing for given me the Bible -- but not the words OF of the Bible.


in Christ,

Bob


Edited by BobRyan (2009-04-24 07:18:46)

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