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#238828 - 04/27/09 05:38 AM Re: 8. The Great Controversy: [Re: Haldog]
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Originally Posted By: Haldog
Reading EGW beclouds my mind, I prefer the bible.


I'm glad I'm not the only one.

Reading the Bible is a pleasure. But reading EGW - I went through a long phase where I could not even touch one of her books. Now I can take her in small-to-moderate doses, and even appreciate some of her sensible insights and perspectives, as long as I keep reminding myself: "I will NOT be lost if I don't agree with every word. I will NOT be lost if I don't agree with every word. This is NOT the Bible."

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#238857 - 04/27/09 09:51 AM Re: 8. The Great Controversy: [Re: Haldog]
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Originally Posted By: Haldog
Reading EGW beclouds my mind, I prefer the bible.


I would be very concerned about that fact if I were you.

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#238858 - 04/27/09 09:55 AM Re: 8. The Great Controversy: [Re: aldona]
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Originally Posted By: aldona
Originally Posted By: Haldog
Reading EGW beclouds my mind, I prefer the bible.


I'm glad I'm not the only one.

Reading the Bible is a pleasure. But reading EGW - I went through a long phase where I could not even touch one of her books. Now I can take her in small-to-moderate doses, and even appreciate some of her sensible insights and perspectives, as long as I keep reminding myself: "I will NOT be lost if I don't agree with every word. I will NOT be lost if I don't agree with every word. This is NOT the Bible."



You won't be lost if you don't believe every word of the Bible, either. There will be many in heaven who didn't accept every book in the Bible. Martin Luther, for instance, didn't much care for James, and he had real doubts about the genuineness of Revelation. It was centuries before the Western church accepted Revelation.

But why do you have those feelings about God's messenger, one to whom He gave 2,000 visions and dreams? If God gave them to her, do you think He made a mistake or gave her those dreams in order for us to ignore or reject them?

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#238863 - 04/27/09 01:18 PM Re: 8. The Great Controversy: [Re: John317]
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HEY JOHN317

YES I agree that both the bible and the writings
of E.G. WHITE can be hard to understand some times
but we just need to pray and ask GOD to help us understand...

dgrimm60

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#247861 - 06/03/09 12:15 AM Re: 8. The Great Controversy: [Re: Haldog]
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Loc: New York
Originally Posted By: Haldog
Reading EGW beclouds my mind, I prefer the bible.


The Bible was written in a world where the Great Controversy was a major theam of the culture, it took commomn ideas and corrected mistakes that had developed in paganism.

Today we read the Bible in a world where the Great Controversy is not a part of daily culture and Mrs. White points out to us this important context that the Bible writers and first readers took for granted.

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#247868 - 06/03/09 12:25 AM Re: 8. The Great Controversy: [Re: aldona]
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Registered: 01/23/02
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Loc: New York
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I'm glad I'm not the only one.

Reading the Bible is a pleasure. But reading EGW - I went through a long phase where I could not even touch one of her books. Now I can take her in small-to-moderate doses, and even appreciate some of her sensible insights and perspectives, as long as I keep reminding myself: "I will NOT be lost if I don't agree with every word. I will NOT be lost if I don't agree with every word. This is NOT the Bible."

aldona


This is sad, but I do not blame you. I wish you could learn about what Mrs. White said about what visions did and did not do for her, and corrispondence with some of the spiritual fathers of those who were to develop into the so called "Historic Adventists" and with Stephen Haskell. Haskell and White had quite an argument over how to use her writings. Or even the arguments between Willie White and Elder Wilkerson. Sadly in 1923 Haskell's views won out and Mrs. White's views were rejected. What has caused your pain has been by you being taught either Haskell's views and/or the ideas of the pre and developing Historic Adventist's views. They give such amazing lip service to Mrs. White but on this point (and other points that do not fit their ideas) they reject her or do their best to twist her words to make it that she was not arguing with these people but in full agreement with them.

Mrs. White did a wonderful ministry and it is exciting to read her after having read her corrispondence with Haskell, and the forerunners of the Historic Adventists and about Willie's and Prescott's arguments with Wilkerson.

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