Ted, this is quite an interesting thought to read. I have never heard it before.

To me, the Bible seems to say that this kind of observation/hypotheseis from the physical world would not be able to hold all the keys to the subject of "the Trinity."

It should be noted, I think, that the Bible talks about "the mystery of godliness" and so I don't think we have the means to know, or the need to know everything about "God."

I put "God" in quotations because the Bible tells us "The LORD our God is one LORD..." (Deut.6:4). In some discussions I have had with jehovah's Witnesses, for eg., they tried to use this text to "prove" that there is only "one" God, and His name is Jehovah."

I had a few puzzling questions about all this until the day I sat down and analyzed this text closer. The word "one" as used in this text is intended in a collective sense, as in plural, but more literally meaning "another God." (atleast this is one of several possible renderings). The Hebrew word for "one" here is Strongs #0259: ‘echad ekh-awd’ If you wanted to do some further research on that.

This makes it easier for me to understand the "One God" in three persons concept. My idea here might cast a shadow upon the earlier mentioned concepts of space/time and how it affects us; and of people just thinking they were seeing three Gods; but in reality there was "only one God."

I was always taught that Jesus is just God in human form, and the Holy Spirit is God in spirit form.

Quote cubensis:

"I was always taught that Jesus is just God in human form, and the Holy Spirit is God in spirit form."

Then in what form is God the Father?

Quote David Koot:

"It is clear from a careful study of the Pentateuch, in comparison with the gospels, that Jesus and Jehovah are, indeed, one and the same. However, Christ is the second person of the Godhead. The Godhead is described in the OT as 'Elohim,' the plural of 'Eloah.' Yahweh is the second person of the Godhead, Christ, the express image of the Father's person. The HOly Spirit is the third Person."

Are you implying Jesus, Christ, Jehovah, Yahweh and the second person of the Godhead are all one and the same person?


yongttay

I thought He was....

Absolutely. More than implying.

Quote David Koot:

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Originally Posted By: yongttay

"Are you implying Jesus, Christ, Jehovah, Yahweh and the second person of the Godhead are all one and the same person?"


Absolutely. More than implying.

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Jehovah is also God the Father, the first person of the Godhead.

Therefore Jesus, Christ, Jehovah, Yahweh, the second person of the Godhead, God the Father and the first person of the Godhead are all one and the same person.

Meaning the first person of the Godhead and the second person of the God are one and the SAME person. There Could be No Trinity. Right?

The One we know as Jesus Christ has been called many other names, among which are Michael the Archangel, Michael the great prince, the Messenger of the Covenant, the Angel of Jehovah, and dozens of others. He was sometimes known by the Israelites in the OT as Jehovah. The Jews, of course, also called the Father Jehovah. The Jews did not understand as much about God as we do today because we have the advantage of the New Testament. Revelation is progressive, and as such, it was left for the Greek Scriptures to reveal the totality of what God wanted to reveal about Himself to humankind.

I believe in the Trinity because I have found it to be what the Bible teaches. I believe in the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, and I believe they are all one God. They are one in purpose. The Godhead expresses itself as three persons. We only know as much about God as He has chosen to reveal to us.

Remember, the term God is a title like king; it is not a personal name. The name Jehovah, or Yahweh, is a reference to God's Eternity and power. It's from a Hebrew word meaning "to be," and signifies that Yahweh is self-existent; that is, He is not dependent on anyone or anything outside of Himself for His existence or being. He is who is He is and will be who He chooses to be. That is true of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. All three are equal and co-eternal.

What's confusing to a lot of people is that there are quite a few Christians who believe (a) that Jesus is "a god" but not Jehovah or the God; that is, they believe that Jesus is a creature who was made millions of years ago for the purpose of coming here as God's representative and dying for Adam's sin; and (b) that Jesus Christ is the Son, the Father, and the Holy Ghost.

Throughout the history of the Church, there have been many ways of viewing who Jesus is with respect to God. It took many centuries for the Church to come to a more or less common understanding of these things, and sadly, Christians have even come to blows and killed each other over them.

What I find interesting about this Trinity topic is that all of our pioneers in the SDA church, James White, Haskell, et. al., were non-trinitarians. They believed in the Godhead not the Trinity. If they were wrong, as has been indicated by some, then why did not EG White say so?
Perhaps we need to have a definition of Trinity and one of Godhead and then go from there.
daquick