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#341620 - 2010-03-06 06:39:14 Re: Wadena To Start Charging Inmates 20.00 a Day [Re: Dr. Rich]
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I think it's a great idea! Too many people are sponging off of the system.
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#341689 - 2010-03-06 14:02:29 Re: Wadena To Start Charging Inmates 20.00 a Day [Re: thjohnston]
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Originally Posted By: thjohnston
This is probably a dead topic, but I thought that I'd put my 2˘ in in case someone is reading...

I work at a jail in Washington state and the way that we do it when an inmate owes us for medical treatment, we deduct it from any deposits made to their account. The inmate is allowed to deposit money with us so that they can purchase stuff off of commissary which makes us a lot of money. However, if they owe us money, we take a percentage of any deposits. This debt rolls over to each subsequent stay until it is paid off.

Tom


This makes a lot of sense Tom.

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#341691 - 2010-03-06 14:04:32 Re: Wadena To Start Charging Inmates 20.00 a Day [Re: olger]
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Originally Posted By: olger
I think it's a great idea! Too many people are sponging off of the system.


I agree olger, especially prisoners, who we support. Maybe they should take a percentage of the governments pay and put it into the prison system! :)

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#341772 - 2010-03-06 16:24:47 Re: Wadena To Start Charging Inmates 20.00 a Day [Re: pkrause]
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THJOHNSTON

WELL thank you for your insight about your
experience with your work at a jail

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#341778 - 2010-03-06 16:52:43 Re: Wadena To Start Charging Inmates 20.00 a Day [Re: olger]
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some day soon you will be spending time in prison--that is IF you refuse to take the 'Mark'. I hope you enjoy the thought!

I have been there and done that and I will tell you that many who are locked up are political prisoners, those who have taken a stand for the constitution and against government corruption. I have seen it on both sides and the prisons are run like a business--the more prisoners, the more money they get and the more slave labor they have. We do NOT have any constitution any more and our court and judicial system is a joke. It is no wonder the judges wear black robes--you can't see all of the evil there is that goes on behind the scene.

Sure, there are evil people, but to what degree? Like on another thread--the cops now days are just as evil as their victims (those they arrest). If you don't understand what I am saying, then you have not been there.

Sure, drugs and alcohol are just crutches for people who feel there is no hope in this world. What we need to be doing is replacing these crutches with solid factual spiritual food, the same that Jesus offered. Ok, I will now step down off of the soapbox.

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#341785 - 2010-03-06 17:09:12 Re: Wadena To Start Charging Inmates 20.00 a Day [Re: Dr. Rich]
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#341790 - 2010-03-06 17:29:14 Re: Wadena To Start Charging Inmates 20.00 a Day [Re: Dr. Rich]
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Originally Posted By: Dr. Rich
some day soon you will be spending time in prison--that is IF you refuse to take the 'Mark'. I hope you enjoy the thought!

One issue has nothing to do with the other

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I have been there and done that and I will tell you that many who are locked up are political prisoners, those who have taken a stand for the constitution and against government corruption. I have seen it on both sides and the prisons are run like a business--the more prisoners, the more money they get and the more slave labor they have. We do NOT have any constitution any more and our court and judicial system is a joke. It is no wonder the judges wear black robes--you can't see all of the evil there is that goes on behind the scene.

Most in jail in the US are not political prisoners or those taken a stand for the constitution.
They belong right where they are. They are thieves,they are those in for assualting others,especially a spouse, harming children,drunk driving after revocation of license etc.
Why should the tax payer foot the bill for all?

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Sure, there are evil people, but to what degree? Like on another thread--the cops now days are just as evil as their victims (those they arrest). If you don't understand what I am saying, then you have not been there.

I am assuming that you can provide data on corrupt policeman being as evil as those they arrest. There are corrupt PO but they are in the minority. Many PO have given their lives to protect the ordinary citizen.

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Sure, drugs and alcohol are just crutches for people who feel there is no hope in this world. What we need to be doing is replacing these crutches with solid factual spiritual food, the same that Jesus offered. Ok, I will now step down off of the soapbox.

Good luck in reaching those that use this as a crutch and an excuse for what they do.Jesus never offered a free ride to criminals,those bent on breaking the law and taking from others.
He offered forgiveness and redemption but not freedom from the consequences of their actions.
Restitution is not a bad thing for anyone. If it has to come at a small amount each month so be it.
When they find themselves not only in jail but paying for their bed and board it might make more of a impact
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#342280 - 2010-03-08 14:54:51 Re: Wadena To Start Charging Inmates 20.00 a Day [Re: bonnie]
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Bonnie, if it took a constitutional amendment to make it unlawful to make and sell alcohol, and then another constitutional amendment to change it, then please tell me where the constitutional amendment is that makes it a crime to 'do drugs'? Please, I am waiting! What happened is that the Executive division broke the constitution by saying they had the power to make the laws. That in itself was unlawful and they should have been placed in prison!

I have been a police officer, still have a son-in-law who is one (LA PD) and have degrees in Criminal Justice and the Law. I personally attempted to prove that 'THEY' violated the constitution and for that they gave me a 'prison' vacation. All I ever did was to make a citizens arrest and the ONLY defense for 'them' was to indict me (6 months later) and then the court refused to allow ANY (ZERO) defense, (more violations of the constitution).

So I DO know what I am talking about. I was a whistle blower on the PD and guess what? When you do this you can NO longer work for them because they ALL are afraid you will tell about what they do ALL the time! YES, Police Officers today are nothing but Government exempt criminals! Show me one that isn't?

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#342293 - 2010-03-08 15:44:23 Re: Wadena To Start Charging Inmates 20.00 a Day [Re: Dr. Rich]
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Originally Posted By: Dr. Rich
Bonnie, if it took a constitutional amendment to make it unlawful to make and sell alcohol, and then another constitutional amendment to change it, then please tell me where the constitutional amendment is that makes it a crime to 'do drugs'? Please, I am waiting! What happened is that the Executive division broke the constitution by saying they had the power to make the laws. That in itself was unlawful and they should have been placed in prison!
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I can't answer that for you and I am not going to take the time to research laws pertaining to "drug use. But I do believe it should be against the law and it is to sell addictive drugs to our young people,this is usually where it starts. Just as it is against the law to sell alcohol to minors. Those that do this can sit in jail for years as far as I am concerned. To many young people have died as a result.






[quote]I have been a police officer, still have a son-in-law who is one (LA PD) and have degrees in Criminal Justice and the Law. I personally attempted to prove that 'THEY' violated the constitution and for that they gave me a 'prison' vacation. All I ever did was to make a citizens arrest and the ONLY defense for 'them' was to indict me (6 months later) and then the court refused to allow ANY (ZERO) defense, (more violations of the constitution).



The other side of this story would be interesting to hear.

[quote]So I DO know what I am talking about. I was a whistle blower on the PD and guess what? When you do this you can NO longer work for them because they ALL are afraid you will tell about what they do ALL the time! YES, Police Officers today are nothing but Government exempt criminals! Show me one that isn't?


I can guess whistle blowers of all stripes can have a hard time of it.
I would doubt however that all are afraid "you will tell about what they do all the time"
You are making some pretty broad statements.
As for "police officers being government exempt criminals" you have provided nothing that indicates any facts.
You show me all the PO that are government criminals. I do not believe you or believe most PO are.
If I found myself needing protection or help it would not be those of your ilk I called.


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#342296 - 2010-03-08 16:06:31 Re: Wadena To Start Charging Inmates 20.00 a Day [Re: bonnie]
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Sorry Bonnie, I should have been more accurate with what I wrote, and it is my opinion only. I would offer for proof, that if you followed a police officer, both on duty and off, around 24-7, that you would soon find a law that he broke.

There is no difference in my book from a thief who steals from you who claims to be a thief and a jack-booted thug who steals from you claiming that you violated some law and therefore forces you hand over YOUR possessions and give them to others.

They seemed to have that same sort of problem in the day of Jesus, didn't they? Matthew WAS a tax collector, but stopped. Another tax collector gave what he stole, back when Jesus came into his life.

The ONLY reason for income tax is for control! This makes everyone of us a slave--period! (ooops, did I say that?)

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