Overall Question: What was the purpose of the abuse, shame, and torture that Jesus endured on the cross?

Memory Text: Revelation 5:12 New Revised Standard singing with full voice, "Worthy is the Lamb that was slaughtered to receive power and wealth and wisdom and might and honor and glory and blessing!"
Revelation 5:12 COMMENTARY BY ALBERT BARNES To bless God, or to ascribe blessing to him, is that state where the heart is full of love and gratitude, and where it desires that he may be everywhere honoured, loved, and obeyed as he should be. The words here express the wish that the universe would ascribe to the Redeemer all honour, and that he might be everywhere loved and adored.

Sunday – At the Cross
Romans 5:8 Good News Translation But God has shown us how much he loves us - it was while we were still sinners that Christ died for us!
Romans 5:8 SDA BIBLE COMMENTARY Christ did not die to appease His Father or to induce Him to love us. It was divine love that conceived the plan of atonement and salvation in the beginning, and the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit have all worked together in perfect harmony to effect it…Some find it difficult to reconcile this conception of the eternal love of God with the frequently mentioned divine wrath. But divine wrath is God’s antagonism to sin, resulting ultimately in the complete eradication of sin from the universe. So long as men choose to remain under the dominion of sin they are inevitably involved in God’s wrath.
Romans 1:18 New Century Version God's anger is shown from heaven against all the evil and wrong things people do. By their own evil lives they hide the truth.

Monday – The Gospel in the Old Testament
Genesis 3:15 Today's New International Version And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and hers; he will crush your head, and you will strike his heel."
Genesis 3:15 COMMENTARY BY JAMIESON, FAUSSET, AND BROWN it shall bruise thy head--The serpent's poison is lodged in its head; and a bruise on that part is fatal. Thus, fatal shall be the stroke which Satan shall receive from Christ, though it is probable he did not at first understand the nature and extent of his doom.
Romans 16:20 English Standard Version The God of peace will soon crush Satan under your feet. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you.
Genesis 22:1-19 God’s Word to the Nations “1 ¶ Later God tested Abraham and called to him, "Abraham!" "Yes, here I am!" he answered. 2 God said, "Take your son, your only son Isaac, whom you love, and go to Moriah. Sacrifice him there as a burnt offering on one of the mountains that I will show you." 3 ¶ Early the next morning Abraham saddled his donkey. He took with him two of his servants and his son Isaac. When he had cut the wood for the burnt offering, he set out for the place that God had told him about. 4 Two days later Abraham saw the place in the distance. 5 Then Abraham said to his servants, "You stay here with the donkey while the boy and I go over there. We’ll worship. After that we’ll come back to you." 6 Then Abraham took the wood for the burnt offering and gave it to his son Isaac. Abraham carried the burning coals and the knife. The two of them went on together. 7 Isaac spoke up and said, "Father?" "Yes, Son?" Abraham answered. Isaac asked, "We have the burning coals and the wood, but where is the lamb for the burnt offering?" 8 Abraham answered, "God will provide a lamb for the burnt offering, Son." The two of them went on together. 9 When they came to the place that God had told him about, Abraham built the altar and arranged the wood on it. Then he tied up his son Isaac and laid him on top of the wood on the altar. 10 Next, Abraham picked up the knife and took it in his hand to sacrifice his son. 11 ¶ But the Messenger of the LORD called to him from heaven and said, "Abraham! Abraham!" "Yes?" he answered. 12 "Do not lay a hand on the boy," he said. "Do not do anything to him. Now I know that you fear God, because you did not refuse to give me your son, your only son." 13 When Abraham looked around, he saw a ram behind him caught by its horns in a bush. So Abraham took the ram and sacrificed it as a burnt offering in place of his son. 14 Abraham named that place The LORD Will Provide. It is still said today, "On the mountain of the LORD it will be provided." 15 ¶ Then the Messenger of the LORD called to Abraham from heaven a second time 16 and said, "I am taking an oath on my own name, declares the LORD, that because you have done this and have not refused to give me your son, your only son, 17 I will certainly bless you and make your descendants as numerous as the stars in the sky and the grains of sand on the seashore. Your descendants will take possession of their enemies’ cities. 18 Through your descendant all the nations of the earth will be blessed, because you have obeyed me." 19 Then Abraham returned to his servants, and together they left for Beersheba. Abraham remained in Beersheba.”

Tuesday – Salvation in Isaiah
Luke 24:27 Lexham English Bible And beginning from Moses and from all the prophets, he interpreted to them the things concerning himself in all the scriptures.
Isaiah 53 English Standard Version 1Who has believed what he has heard from us? And to whom has the arm of the LORD been revealed? 2 For he grew up before him like a young plant, and like a root out of dry ground; he had no form or majesty that we should look at him, and no beauty that we should desire him. 3He was despised and rejected by men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief; and as one from whom men hide their faces he was despised, and we esteemed him not. 4 Surely he has borne our griefs and carried our sorrows; yet we esteemed him stricken, smitten by God, and afflicted. 5But he was wounded for our transgressions; he was crushed for our iniquities; upon him was the chastisement that brought us peace, and with his stripes we are healed. 6All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned--every one--to his own way; and the LORD has laid on him the iniquity of us all. 7 He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth; like a lamb that is led to the slaughter, and like a sheep that before its shearers is silent, so he opened not his mouth. 8 By oppression and judgment he was taken away; and as for his generation, who considered that he was cut off out of the land of the living, stricken for the transgression of my people? 9 And they made his grave with the wicked and with a rich man in his death, although he had done no violence, and there was no deceit in his mouth. 10 Yet it was the will of the LORD to crush him; he has put him to grief; when his soul makes an offering for guilt, he shall see his offspring; he shall prolong his days; the will of the LORD shall prosper in his hand. 11 Out of the anguish of his soul he shall see and be satisfied; by his knowledge shall the righteous one, my servant, make many to be accounted righteous, and he shall bear their iniquities. 12Therefore I will divide him a portion with the many, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong, because he poured out his soul to death and was numbered with the transgressors; yet he bore the sin of many, and makes intercession for the transgressors.
Isaiah 53:4-9 COMMENTARY BY MATTHEW HENRY This atonement was to be made for our sins. And this is the only way of salvation. Our sins were the thorns in Christ's head, the nails in his hands and feet, the spear in his side. He was delivered to death for our offences. By his sufferings he purchased for us the Spirit and grace of God, to mortify our corruptions, which are the distempers of our souls. We may well endure our lighter sufferings, if He has taught us to esteem all things but loss for him, and to love him who has first loved us.
1 Peter 1:19 English Standard Version but with the precious blood of Christ, like that of a lamb without blemish or spot.
1 Peter 2:21-25 New American Standard Version 21 For you have been called for this purpose, since Christ also suffered for you, leaving you an example for you to follow in His steps, 22 WHO COMMITTED NO SIN, NOR WAS ANY DECEIT FOUND IN HIS MOUTH ; 23 and while being reviled, He did not revile in return ; while suffering, He uttered no threats, but kept entrusting Himself to Him who judges righteously ; 24 and He Himself bore our sins in His body on the cross, so that we might die to sin and live to righteousness ; for by His wounds you were healed. 25 For you were continually straying like sheep, but now you have returned to the Shepherd and Guardian of your souls.

Wednesday – The Gospels and the Cross
Mark 10:32-45 New Revised Standard Version “32 ¶ They were on the road, going up to Jerusalem, and Jesus was walking ahead of them; they were amazed, and those who followed were afraid. He took the twelve aside again and began to tell them what was to happen to him, 33 saying, "See, we are going up to Jerusalem, and the Son of Man will be handed over to the chief priests and the scribes, and they will condemn him to death; then they will hand him over to the Gentiles; 34 they will mock him, and spit upon him, and flog him, and kill him; and after three days he will rise again." 35 James and John, the sons of Zebedee, came forward to him and said to him, "Teacher, we want you to do for us whatever we ask of you." 36 And he said to them, "What is it you want me to do for you?" 37 And they said to him, "Grant us to sit, one at your right hand and one at your left, in your glory." 38 But Jesus said to them, "You do not know what you are asking. Are you able to drink the cup that I drink, or be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with?" 39 They replied, "We are able." Then Jesus said to them, "The cup that I drink you will drink; and with the baptism with which I am baptized, you will be baptized; 40 but to sit at my right hand or at my left is not mine to grant, but it is for those for whom it has been prepared." 41 When the ten heard this, they began to be angry with James and John. 42 So Jesus called them and said to them, "You know that among the Gentiles those whom they recognize as their rulers lord it over them, and their great ones are tyrants over them. 43 But it is not so among you; but whoever wishes to become great among you must be your servant, 44 and whoever wishes to be first among you must be slave of all. 45 For the Son of Man came not to be served but to serve, and to give his life a ransom for many."”
Mark 10:43 COMMENTARY THE FOURFOLD GOSPEL In an earthly kingdom honor and authority measure greatness, but in Christ's kingdom it is measured by humility and service. Jesus added power to his rebuke by showing them that their spirit was not even Jewish, but altogether heathenish.

Thursday – The Cry on the Cross
Matthew 27:46 The Message Around mid-afternoon Jesus groaned out of the depths, crying loudly, "Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?" which means, "My God, my God, why have you abandoned me?"
Ellen White, Testimonies, Vol. 2, p. 209 – “Oh, was there ever suffering and sorrow like that endured by the dying Saviour! It was the sense of His Father’s displeasure which made His cup so bitter. It was not bodily suffering which so quickly ended the life of Christ upon the cross. It was the crushing weight of the sins of the world, and a sense of His Father’s wrath. The Father’s glory and sustaining presence had left Him, and despair pressed its crushing weight of darkness upon Him and forced from His pale and quivering lips the anguished cry: ‘My God, My God, why hast Thou forsaken Me?’"

Chose #2, but didn't like any of the choice's. Especially #3, that one makes no sense at all.

JAMES423

I also chose number 2 or letter B

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PKRAUSE

YES I agree with you the 3rd choice or letter C
did not make any choice to me either

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PKRAUSE

I Meant sense not choice

dgrimm60

I have to agree #2 (B) is the only good choice

NAOMI

well I am glad you agree

smile smile smile smile

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God loves us He came to save the lost resulting ultimately in the complete eradication of sin from the universe. Satan is furious for he knows his time is short

None of the choices in your poll is correct. Because of this I did not vote.


Jesus died as our SUBSTITUTE. He carried all our sins past, present, and future to the Cross and died for all those sins.


Whether it was "one sin" or a "kabillion sins" Jesus would have died and suffered the Wrath of God.


The Book of Romans says that God's Wrath against "sin" needed to be satisfied. Since humans had become "sin" according to the Book of Romans, Jesus Christ became "sin for us" so that God's Wrath would be against Him and not against us (humans). In addition Jesus Christ made us Righteous before God and thus God's "Favor" was directed toward us as if we had never ever sinned (received Adam's sin/guilt).

It was Adam's sin that Christ died for. We were going to die because of Adam's sin (not our own)[our sin is indeed Adam's sin given to us by God's Command which is why we are sinful and commit sins]. However, Christ atoned for Adam's sin and again by God's fiat (command) we are made Righteous as if we had never ever sinned (see Romans chapter five).

Thus, because of Christ's Righteousness and that alone we get to live and not die (see again Romans chapter five).


The Cross is a finished work. Justification is complete in the Cross alone.

The “Key Thought” to this lesson is: “The Triune God is our Creator and Redeemer” (p.22); therefore, when we read in this lesson about God redeeming mankind, we should assume it is speaking of the three-person god called the trinity, but here again we find a great deal of confusion. Did the Father die on the cross? Can the Holy Spirit rightfully be said to be our redeemer? Throughout the New Testament the term God is applied
almost exclusively to the Father and not to some three-in-one god. Note the following verses: Labour not for the meat which
perisheth, but for that meat which endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of man shall give unto you: for him
hath God the Father sealed. (John 6:27) Grace to you and peace from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ. (Romans 1:6) Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ. (1 Corinthians 1:3; Philippians 1:2) Grace be to you and peace from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ. (2 Corinthians 1:2; Galatians 1:3; Ephesians 1:3) We give thanks to God and the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, praying always for you. (Colossians 1:3) Paul writes that God is the Father. God is not called the Father, Son, Holy Spirit. In fact, Paul says that the Father is the God of our Lord Jesus Christ. This agrees with what is written in Hebrews 1:9: “Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.”

Sunday, January 15: The confusion over the identity of God continues on Sunday’s lesson, where Romans 5:8 is quoted. Who is this God that commendeth his love towards us? According to John 3:16, it has to be the Father, for there it says that this God sent his only begotten Son to die for the sins of humanity.
Monday, January 16: The second half of Monday’s lesson focuses on the story of Abraham being commanded to offer Isaac upon Mt. Moriah (Genesis 22:1–19). Let it not be forgotten that this story is the plan of salvation illustrated, but according to the trinitarian doctrine, this story is not about a real father or a real son. We fully agree, however, with the statement on the bottom of page 24: The Son Himself would die on the altar. The Father would truly give up His Son, and the Son would give His life. The only way this story can be true is if there is a literal Father and Son, for according to 1 Timothy 6:16, God the Father is immortal and cannot die under any circumstances. Since the three-person god cannot die at Calvary, it is now taught that the atonement is not made by the literal death of the Son of God, but by a sundering of the trinity: The disjointing of the Son of God from the other members of the Godhead resulted in indescribable suffering not only to Jesus but also to the Godhead. Jesus’ cry of dereliction points to a voluntary breach within the Godhead, to the sundering of the Trinity as Christ voluntarily surrendered His life for you and me. Atonement is a Trinitarian event and it took place in the mystery of the divine sundering. (Ángel Manuel Rodríguez, “Incarnation, Death, and Enthroment [sic]: Atonement as a Narrative,” p. 5)
Tuesday, January 17: This lesson is on salvation in Isaiah, specifically the 53rd chapter. Isaiah 53:6 says that “the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.” It should be clear that the LORD, Jehovah, is the Father and the him in the verse is Christ. Isaiah 53:10 says: “Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him.” Here again, the LORD is the Father and the him in this verse is Jesus. These verses tell us that the Father had a decisive part in the plan of salvation. How it must have torn at his heart to lay our sins upon Jesus and to bruise his only begotten Son. The Hebrew word translated bruise is daka, and it is also translated in the Bible as to break, crush, or beat to pieces.
Wednesday, January 18: This lesson is on the gospel and the cross. It speaks of the different phases of the plan of salvation, such as Christ’s birth, life, and death, but there is one piece of the picture that is strangely missing here—the high-priestly ministry of Jesus Christ. We have no problem with a presentation that has its focus on Calvary, for it provides the sacrifice needed for the priestly ministry of Jesus. But let the following not be forgotten: The intercession of Christ in man’s behalf in the sanctuary above is as essential to the plan of salvation as was His death upon the cross. (The Great Controversy, p. 489)
Thursday, January 19: The cry of Jesus, “My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?” (Matthew 27:63), only makes sense if we consider this to be addressed to the Father, but if one is a consistent trinitarian, God must be defined as “Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.” It would be a mockery for Jesus to cry out to himself, but it would also be a terrible slight for Jesus to fail to cry out to the spirit that has supposedly been guiding and directing his life, if the trinitarian doctrine is true.

That's an interesting thought...Does that mean that the Father is the God of Jesus, and the HS?

I'm really not interested in getting into yet another "trinity", etc., debate, just trying to understand this, and similar verses.