In John 13 we find the story of how Jesus washed the feet of his disciples, but we find no record of any of the disciples having washed Jesus’ feet. Could it be that his feet remained unwashed on said occasion? It wouldn’t be the first time a host failed to provide such service to his guests. Would it?

What did the host fail to provide to his guests?

Customarily the host had a servant do that, didn't he? Would welcome information on that

NIC SAMOJLUK

that is a good question

dgrimm60

CRICKET

yes i was wondering the same thing since JESUS did wash the feet


dgrimm60

GAIL

you made a good point about the servant

dgrimm60

I've never thought about that, figured if it was important to the story, it would've found its way into scripture.

It seems to me that Jesus had everything prepared for Him in advance. In which case, Jesus would be the Host. He had His disciples prepare the meal and get everything ready, but He was the Host.

Matthew 26:17-30
On the first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread, the disciples came to Jesus and asked, “Where do you want us to make preparations for you to eat the Passover?” 18 He replied, “Go into the city to a certain man and tell him, ‘The Teacher says: My appointed time is near. I am going to celebrate the Passover with my disciples at your house.’ “ 19 So the disciples did as Jesus had directed them and prepared the Passover.

Mark 14:12-26
On the first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread, when it was customary to sacrifice the Passover lamb, Jesus’ disciples asked him, “Where do you want us to go and make preparations for you to eat the Passover?” 13 So he sent two of his disciples, telling them, “Go into the city, and a man carrying a jar of water will meet you. Follow him. 14 Say to the owner of the house he enters, ‘The Teacher asks: Where is my guest room, where I may eat the Passover with my disciples?’ 15 He will show you a large upper room, furnished and ready. Make preparations for us there.” 16 The disciples left, went into the city and found things just as Jesus had told them. So they prepared the Passover.

Luke 22:7-23
Then came the day of Unleavened Bread on which the Passover lamb had to be sacrificed. 8 Jesus sent Peter and John, saying, “Go and make preparations for us to eat the Passover.” 9 “Where do you want us to prepare for it?” they asked. 10 He replied, “As you enter the city, a man carrying a jar of water will meet you. Follow him to the house that he enters, 11 and say to the owner of the house, ‘The Teacher asks: Where is the guest room, where I may eat the Passover with my disciples?’ 12 He will show you a large upper room, all furnished. Make preparations there.” 13 They left and found things just as Jesus had told them. So they prepared the Passover.

CRICKET

you made a good point

dgrimm60

Yes, but what I had in mind was this other case when the host was not Jesus, but rather Simon:

“Then he turned toward the woman and said to Simon, "Do you see this woman? I came into your house. You did not give me any water for my feet, but she wet my feet with her tears and wiped them with her hair.” [Luke 7:44]

Well, Simon was a fallible human being; that I can understand. I wish you'd just mentioned that story in the first place though. The first one had me searching as to why Jesus wouldn't have provided for His guests--and, as was the case, He did make sure His guests were seen to.

Now, as for the story in Luke 7:44, what is it, really, that you want to ask?

The wonderful thing about Mary is that she seems to be the one Bible character who most is found at Jesus' feet.

If Martha is not looking for her, or Simon is not chastising her for it, then she is outside the tomb wondering who took away the body of her Lord. When He makes Himself known to her, what does she do? She falls at His feet.

I believe that out of everyone, Mary was the only one who really understood Jesus' real mission.

Yes, she did.

"It was Mary who first preached a risen Jesus..."

Not sure I can draw that conclusion from the Biblical evidence. And if this is the same Mary that days before had not understood that Jesus had the power to raise her brother from the dead then I don't think we can go as far as to say that she understood Jesus' real mission yet. While later Mary was one of the first at Jesus tomb it appears that she was there specifically to embalm His dead body not rejoice to see His living body. One thing is for certain,however, Mary did have an affection for and devotion to Jesus that was all encompassing. A she remains a model for all of his future disciples."To whom little is forgiven, the same loveth little."

doug yowell wrote:

“And if this is the same Mary that days before had not understood that Jesus had the power to raise her brother from the dead then I don't think we can go as far as to say that she understood Jesus' real mission yet.”

Is there any biblical evidence that the Mary who sat at Jesus feet is the same who washed his feet and poured perfume on his head?

And there it is! The question.
Nic, do you have the answer already?

If she wasn't, it doesn't matter. The one who was at His feet pouring out the perfume was at His feet, washing them with her tears. She bows before Jesus, in contrast to Simon, who condemned her for "what manner of woman" she was, or to Judas, who said that her gift could have been sold and given to the poor.

But her act showed the servitude that the disciples could and should have shown their Master.

The woman caught in adultery was also at Jesus' feet (if you don't accept that she was Mary, either, it doesn't matter). This in contrast to the men of the day, the church men.

The church men yes, but not all the men. Many men whom Jesus had healed and forgiven showed the same humility and thankfulness as did Mary. But it was a Roman man that showed the greatest grasp of who Jesus really was. His response was the most impressive display of servitude of anyone during Jesus life here on earth.

Here are some fun threads from Club Adventist archives:

Mary and the Pharisee: Biblical?

Martha's sister, Mary, is really Mary Magdalene!

I am not concerned that the Bible does not tell us for sure about which Mary did which............ I feel blessed by the fact that EGW DOES tell us that Mary, sister of Lazarus and Mary Magdalene are one and the same. I was interested that Mrs.White tells us that Jesus cast devils out of her seven times.. I for one chose to believe that when the Bible fails to explain a passage and Mrs. White does...I believe her.Does this mean that I believe EGW above the Bible???? Draw your own conclusions... It's about time that we decide whether we are going to FISH or cut bait!!!!!!!!!!!! We don't have much time left to make up our minds..... Nuff Sed

Thanks for the links. I did ckick on the second link and read the arguments presented there, but the evidence is not sufficently strong for me to make the connection between Mary Magdalene and the adulterous woman.

Some interesting points made so far in this thread. I am curious what difference one way or the other it would make to you if there was sufficiently strong enough evidence to prove which Mary is which here?

Mary had a unique experience with Jesus, Seven times he cast out her devils.

i believe that demon possession was in biblical times an expression for mental illness.

Mary Might have been healed of schizophrenia 7 times. Jesus restored her sanity her functioning seven times. seven times she lost it, and he brought it back to her. Her will was weakened, and i think Jesus healed her will.

she truly appreciated what Jesus had done for her. She knew what torment was, and what peace was. She understood what Jesus could do to lift up and restore humanity like few in her day.