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#77987 - 2006-04-08 01:44:42 Holy City Project - Facilitating Global Missions and Ministry
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If you would like to actively participate in global gospel missions and helping people in need worldwide, visit: www.njkproject.info

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#77988 - 2006-04-11 23:43:35 Re: Holy City Project - Facilitating Global Missions and Ministry [Re: Martin]
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What Is the Holy City Project?

The Holy City (HC) Project is the endeavor to establish wholly Christian cities throughout the world. Each of these cities will be a place which will wholeheartedly, fully incorporate the principles values, ideology and theology of Christianity in its society. Like the coming Heavenly Kingdom of God, it will be a place "in which righteousness dwells" (2 Pet. 3:13). In short, it will be a foretaste of Heaven, on Earth.

The HC Project will establish of these Holy Cities They will be united under one central government and thus will function as city-states. This union will form a country which will be known as the New Jerusalem Kingdom (NJK).

What is the Purpose of the HC Project?

The motivating factor for the HC Project is to provid a solid, supportive, socio-economic platform for anyone who would like to be involved in global Christian religious and humanitarian missions. The present economic system in most, if not all, countries, do not permit such ministry to be fully carried out by those who are willing. The NJK|HC Project is set on overcoming this major obstacle.

(If you are asking whether Holy Cities are necessary in order to carry out these global missions, go to the HC Ministry section and see if the planned ministries of the NJK are feasible without this kind of cooperation and organization by the people of God.)

Who is the HC Project?

The Holy City Project is anyone who participates in the establishing of its global ministry. Every person who partners in the project will equally benefit from its various spiritual, social and economical rewards.

For answers to questions concerning the HC Project go to the Commonly Asked Questions section in the Site Key Page
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#77989 - 2006-04-11 23:44:55 Re: Holy City Project - Facilitating Global Missions and Ministry [Re: ]
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Trying to establish the kingdom of God through earthly means? Interesting. "One central government." Right.
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#77990 - 2006-04-15 01:11:36 Re: Holy City Project - Facilitating Global Missions and Ministry [Re: ]
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Could you elaborate on your reply. You've seem to jump to conclusions based on personal prejudices.


Edited by NJK Project (2006-04-15 01:15:58)
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#77991 - 2006-04-15 01:14:29 Re: Holy City Project - Facilitating Global Missions and Ministry [Re: Martin]
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No to both statements.
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#77992 - 2006-04-15 01:35:31 Re: Holy City Project - Facilitating Global Missions and Ministry [Re: ]
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Well, in the future, keep your opinionated suppositions to yourself, instead of trying to hinder the work of God.


Edited by NJK Project (2006-04-15 02:25:51)
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#77993 - 2006-04-15 04:28:25 Re: Holy City Project - Facilitating Global Missions and Ministry [Re: Martin]
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If something really is the work of God, one individual sharing his or her "opinionated suppositions" is not about to "hinder" it, now, is it.

I do not answer to you, and I will share my observations when and where I choose to do so on this open forum. By posting this link you have invited others to share their impressions. I have shared mine, and if I choose to do so, I will share more or elaborate further. But not at the behest of baiting language indicating one has already gone on the defensive warpath. I don't converse rationally and intelligently with tantrumming toddlers, either, for much the same reason.

The "enterprise" this web site promotes is ill-conceived and naive. Those are the kindest things I might say about it. To state what I believe to be the source of this type of ambition is not a permissible form of communication in this forum. Therefore I will confine my further remarks to these:

First of all, just where do you imagine you're going to build these cities?
Next, just how do you imagine you will persuade the government(s) of the nation(s) where these cities' land is located to permit the cities to be run by your one central government?
Next, just how do you expect to evade taxation and overseeing at the very least, if not direct governmental rule, by the governments of these nations or countries on whose land you build these cities?
Say nothing of the elaborate and complex planning that must go into an urban structure with regard to water supply, food supply, architecture, layout, traffic flow, residential and business areas, parks and recreational areas, etc. etc.
And just whom do you envision to sit upon the throne of your one-world-in-the-name-of-God-government?? What? Know ye not that your enterprise is the very epitome of the ambition of the antichrist itself -- to rule all nations under a single authority and do so naming himself God and his enterprise "God's work"?
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#77994 - 2006-04-15 04:49:26 Re: Holy City Project - Facilitating Global Missions and Ministry [Re: ]
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"The HC Project will establish of [sic] these Holy Cities. They will be united under one central government and thus will function as city-states. This union will form a country which will be known as the New Jerusalem Kingdom (NJK)."

-- Several city-states under one central government? Sounds like "empire talk" to me.
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#77995 - 2006-04-15 04:52:25 Re: Holy City Project - Facilitating Global Missions and Ministry [Re: ]
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Supreme Law
(from http://www.njkproject.info/njk/hc_organization/gov/constitution/supremelaw.html )

The New Jerusalem Kingdom will be ‘a nation under the sovereignty of God.’ As such the NJK will in political terms be known as a Theocracy. This means that it is God, through His revealed Word, who will have the last, authoritative say.




Just one glaring problem with this postulate: who is going to be the one to have the "final say" over HOW God's Revealed Word is to be interpreted and understood, as well as applied in real-world situations, in this proposed "theocracy"???
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#77996 - 2006-04-15 05:03:12 Re: Holy City Project - Facilitating Global Missions and Ministry [Re: ]
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HC Safety
Zero Crime
(from http://www.njkproject.info/njk/hc_security/hcsafety/zerocrime.html )
Since the HC is a community of Christian who are "born from above" (John 3:3- literal translation; see NRSV), crime fighting and prevention will not be anticipated. This means that security items such as alarms, window bars, anti-theft devices, and probably most, if not all locking devices, etc will not be needed in the HC. If that sounds impossible, just remember the not so distant past days when such devices were not used or not needed in many neighborhoods of society. The HC/NJK will be making a return to these days and beyond. If ever there is a policing task to be done, it will be assigned to previously trained members of a non-standing police. Economically, the absence of a default need for crime fighting and prevention will result in a significant reduction of resource needs.




And yet there is no provision indicated for exactly how everyone who might VISIT, let alone LIVE in an "HC" will be screened or "vetted" so as to ensure that no one with anything less than pure motives ever gets inside one of these cities. This strikes me as pretty naive. So someone wanders in from another town, or visits a relative there, and decides to commit a crime. What then? Or is there going to be some hyped up security team only admitting certified HC residents through laser scans of their eyes or chips in their hands or something? What if someone living in an HC compound "goes bad" all on their own -- falls away from Christ, decides to covet his neighbor's gizmo, and then sneak off with it himself, thus stealing it? What if someone is tempted, succumbs, and decides to take his neighbor's delicious little 16 year old daughter out for some quality private time by the HC Lake? Or do you imagine living in an "Holy City" will bestow "Holy FLESH" as well?
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