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	<span style="font-size:14px;">This statement, “Rome never changes” is not a quote from Ellen White. The book Great Controversy, page 494 says “And let it be remembered, it is the boast of Rome that she never changes.” Great Controversy is simply reporting  a boast made by Rome. GC [the book Great Controversy] then immediately states “The principles of Gregory VII and Innocent III are still the principles of the Roman Catholic Church.”  The principles of Gregory VII that do not change can be found in Great Controversy, pages 46,47: “Among the propositions which he put forth was one declaring that the church had never erred, nor would it ever err, according to the Scriptures.” “The proud pontiff also claimed the power to depose emperors, and declared that no sentence which he pronounced could be reversed by anyone, but that it was his prerogative to reverse the decisions of all others” (Ibid.). </span>
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	<span style="font-size:14px;">Regarding Innocent III, GC said this: “In the year 1204, Pope Innocent III extracted from Peter II, king of Arragon, the following extraordinary oath: <span lang="ZH-CN">“</span>I, Peter, king of Arragonians, profess and promise to be ever faithful and obedient to my lord, Pope Innocent, to his Catholic successors, and the Roman Church, and faithfully to preserve my kingdom in his obedience, defending the Catholic faith, and persecuting heretical pravity” (GC 493,494). “<span style="color:black">This is in harmony with the claims regarding the power of the Roman pontiff,  “that it is lawful for him to depose emperors” and “that he can absolve subjects from their allegiance to unrighteous rulers” (Ibid.).</span></span>
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	<span style="font-size:14px;"><span style="color: black;"> </span></span><span style="font-size:14px;"><span style="color: black;">Note that in the immediate context, GC refers specifically to Gregory VII and Innocent III. The points objected to regard the pope’s authority to depose emperors and the  infallibility of the RC church. Great Controversy cites Innocent III as in harmony with Gregory VII.</span></span>
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	Calvin could not and would not have any other God than Him who gives<br>
	us life, who has ransomed us, and who sanctifies us — the Father, God<br>
	above us; the Son, God for us; the Holy Ghost, God in us. This threefold<br>
	relation with God, which Scripture revealed to him and which entirely<br>
	satisfied his inward longings, forced him to recognize a difference in God;<br>
	but on the other hand, unity being essential to the Deity, he was bound to<br>
	maintain it at any cost, and he thus felt himself constrained to embrace the<br>
	idea of a divine Trinity. Against this doctrine Servetus leveled his bitterest<br>
	sarcasms. The Spaniard rejected what he denominated an ‘imaginary<br>
	Trinity;’ he called those who believed in it ‘tritheists,’ or even atheists,<br>
	and abused them in coarse language. ‘Jesus is man,’ he said; ‘the Godhead<br>
	was communicated to Him by grace, but He is not God by nature. The<br>
	Father alone is God in that sense.’ He invited Calvin to a conference;<br>
	puffed up and charmed with his own system, he fancied himself certain to<br>
	convince the reformer, and flattered himself with the hope of making him<br>
	his fellow-laborer.
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	<em>History of the Reformation in Europe in the Time of Calvin,</em> vol. 3 p. 94;
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	Book 4 chapter 8
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	<span style="background-color:#ffffff; color:#141618; font-size:16px; text-align:start">We see what the Bible says..</span><br style="background-color:#ffffff; color:#141618; font-size:16px; text-align:start">
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	<a data-proxy-href="/proxy.php?link=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.biblegateway.com%2Fpassage%2F%3Fsearch%3D2%2520John%25201%253A7%26version%3DKJV&amp;hash=14ecb59674dab267b5f9a4010f43aed3" href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2%20John%201%3A7&amp;version=KJV" rel="external nofollow" style="background-color:#ffffff; color:#679fcf; font-size:16px; text-align:start" target="_blank">2 John 1:7</a><br style="background-color:#ffffff; color:#141618; font-size:16px; text-align:start">
	<span style="background-color:#ffffff; color:#141618; font-size:16px; text-align:start">For many deceivers are entered into the world,<span> </span></span><b style="background-color:#ffffff; color:#141618; font-size:16px; text-align:start">who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh</b><span style="background-color:#ffffff; color:#141618; font-size:16px; text-align:start">. This is a deceiver and an<span> </span></span><b style="background-color:#ffffff; color:#141618; font-size:16px; text-align:start">antichrist</b><span style="background-color:#ffffff; color:#141618; font-size:16px; text-align:start">.</span><br style="background-color:#ffffff; color:#141618; font-size:16px; text-align:start">
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	<span style="background-color:#ffffff; color:#141618; font-size:16px; text-align:start">The antichrist has to deny Jesus came in the flesh. Let’s look up the greek word “flesh” in the greek Lexicon and see what it can mean:</span><br style="background-color:#ffffff; color:#141618; font-size:16px; text-align:start">
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	<u style="background-color:#ffffff; color:#141618; font-size:16px; text-align:start">Strong’s Hebrew/Greek Concordance:</u><br style="background-color:#ffffff; color:#141618; font-size:16px; text-align:start">
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	<span style="background-color:#ffffff; color:#141618; font-size:16px; text-align:start">sarx: Probably from the base of G4563; flesh (as stripped of the skin), that is, (strictly) the meat of an animal (as food), or (by extension) the body (as opposed to the soul (or spirit), or as the symbol of what is external, or as the means of kindred, or (by implication)<span> </span></span><b style="background-color:#ffffff; color:#141618; font-size:16px; text-align:start">human<span> </span><u>nature</u></b><span style="background-color:#ffffff; color:#141618; font-size:16px; text-align:start"><span> </span>(with its frailties (physically or morally) and passions), or (specifically)<span> </span></span><b style="background-color:#ffffff; color:#141618; font-size:16px; text-align:start">a human being</b><span style="background-color:#ffffff; color:#141618; font-size:16px; text-align:start"><span> </span>(as such): – carnal (-ly, + -ly minded), flesh ([-ly]).</span><br style="background-color:#ffffff; color:#141618; font-size:16px; text-align:start">
	<br style="background-color:#ffffff; color:#141618; font-size:16px; text-align:start">
	<u style="background-color:#ffffff; color:#141618; font-size:16px; text-align:start">Thayer’s Greek Lexicon:</u><br style="background-color:#ffffff; color:#141618; font-size:16px; text-align:start">
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	<span style="background-color:#ffffff; color:#141618; font-size:16px; text-align:start">Thayer Definition:</span><br style="background-color:#ffffff; color:#141618; font-size:16px; text-align:start">
	<span style="background-color:#ffffff; color:#141618; font-size:16px; text-align:start">1) flesh (the soft substance of the living body, which covers the bones and is permeated with blood) of both man and beasts</span><br style="background-color:#ffffff; color:#141618; font-size:16px; text-align:start">
	<br style="background-color:#ffffff; color:#141618; font-size:16px; text-align:start">
	<span style="background-color:#ffffff; color:#141618; font-size:16px; text-align:start">2) the body 2a) the body of a man 2b) used of natural or physical origin, generation or relationship 2b1) born of natural generation 2c) the sensuous nature of man, “the animal nature” 2c1) without any suggestion of depravity 2c2) the animal nature with cravings which incite to sin 2c3) the physical nature of man as subject to suffering</span><br style="background-color:#ffffff; color:#141618; font-size:16px; text-align:start">
	<br style="background-color:#ffffff; color:#141618; font-size:16px; text-align:start">
	<span style="background-color:#ffffff; color:#141618; font-size:16px; text-align:start">3) a living creature (because possessed of a body of flesh) whether man or beast</span><br style="background-color:#ffffff; color:#141618; font-size:16px; text-align:start">
	<br style="background-color:#ffffff; color:#141618; font-size:16px; text-align:start">
	<span style="background-color:#ffffff; color:#141618; font-size:16px; text-align:start">4) the flesh,<span> </span></span><b style="background-color:#ffffff; color:#141618; font-size:16px; text-align:start">denotes mere human<span> </span><u>nature</u></b><span style="background-color:#ffffff; color:#141618; font-size:16px; text-align:start">, the earthly nature of man apart from divine influence, and therefore<span> </span></span><b style="background-color:#ffffff; color:#141618; font-size:16px; text-align:start">prone to sin and opposed to God</b><br style="background-color:#ffffff; color:#141618; font-size:16px; text-align:start">
	<br style="background-color:#ffffff; color:#141618; font-size:16px; text-align:start">
	<span style="background-color:#ffffff; color:#141618; font-size:16px; text-align:start">Now… what is our human nature? What are all human beings guilty of according to the bible? They are all guilty of SIN (Romans 3:23). Our human nature if our “want” to, or being “prone” to sin. The bible teaches that although Jesus never sinned, he became sin for us (2 Cor. 5:21). It teaches that Jesus came through the line of David (Matthew 1:1) yet David said, “Behold, I was shapen in INIQUITY; and in SIN did my mother conceive me.” -Psalm 51:5. This means that the whole line of David was a lineage individuals with a nature to sin, including Jesus. This is how Jesus, being God, could be tempted to sin (compare James 1:13 with Hebrews 4:15) because he became man, and being made into a man he had the same human nature as man… the ability to sin.</span><br style="background-color:#ffffff; color:#141618; font-size:16px; text-align:start">
	<br style="background-color:#ffffff; color:#141618; font-size:16px; text-align:start">
	<span style="background-color:#ffffff; color:#141618; font-size:16px; text-align:start">So, how does the Roman Catholic Church teach that Jesus did not come in the flesh (human nature)? Well when they teach that the Virgin Mary was sinless at her conception of the baby Jesus, they in essence teach that Jesus has not come in the flesh, because Jesus came through her lineage, and as David had a nature to sin, she also had a nature to sin. Read the following quote from a Roman Catechism:</span><br style="background-color:#ffffff; color:#141618; font-size:16px; text-align:start">
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	<span style="background-color:#ffffff; color:#141618; font-size:16px; text-align:start">491. “Through the centuries the Church has become ever more aware that Mary, ‘full of grace’ through God, [Lk 1:28 .] was redeemed from the moment of her conception. That is what the dogma of the Immaculate Conception confesses, as Pope Pius IX proclaimed in 1854: The most Blessed Virgin Mary was, from the first moment of her conception, by a singular grace and privilege of almighty God and by virtue of the merits of JESUS Christ, Saviour of the human race, preserved immune from all stain of original sin. -Pius IX, Ineffabilis Deus (1854): DS 2803.</span><br style="background-color:#ffffff; color:#141618; font-size:16px; text-align:start">
	<br style="background-color:#ffffff; color:#141618; font-size:16px; text-align:start">
	<span style="background-color:#ffffff; color:#141618; font-size:16px; text-align:start">To say that Jesus came into the world this way, born of a virgin who was not of sinful “flesh” as we are all in our human nature, is to say he did not come in the “flesh” of sinful nature because he came through HER lineage. Think about it.</span>
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	Comments on Galatians 5:23, <em>Against such there is no law.</em>
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	<span style="font-size:14px;">There is a Law, of course, but not against such. Thus Paul says elsewhere (1 Tim. 1:9): “The Law was not laid down for the just.” For the just man lives as though he had need of no Law to admonish, urge, and constrain him; but spontaneously, without any legal constraint, he does more than the Law requires. And so the Law cannot accuse and condemn the just; nor can it disturb their consciences. It tries, of course; but when Christ has been grasped by faith, He dispels the Law with all its terrors and threats. Thus it is completely abrogated for them, first in the Spirit, but then also in works. It does not have the right to accuse them; for spontaneously they do what the Law requires, if not by means of perfectly holy works, then at least by means of the forgiveness of sins through faith. </span>
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	<span style="font-size:14px;">So a Christian fulfills the Law inwardly by faith—for Christ is the consummation of the Law for righteousness to everyone who has faith (Rom. 10:4)—and outwardly by works and by the forgiveness of sins. But those who perform the works of the flesh and gratify its desires are accused and condemned by the Law, both politically and theologically.</span>
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	<em>Luther, M. (1999). Luther’s works, vol. 27: Lectures on Galatians, 1535, Chapters 5-6; 1519, Chapters 1-6. (J. J. Pelikan, H. C. Oswald, &amp; H. T. Lehmann, Eds.) (Vol. 27, p. 96). Saint Louis: Concordia Publishing House.</em>
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	The gospel teachings of the Reformation were affirmed by Ellen White in 1884. She described the day of the Augsburg Confession as “one of most glorious days in the history of the world.”  “Since the apostolic age, there had not been such a magnificent confession of Jesus Christ.”  Written by Melanchthon, in consultation with Luther, she later opined that Luther clearly taught the doctrine of justification by faith.  <br>
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	The Reformation began with a quarrel between two monks.  It eventually involved bishops, popes, soldiers, knights, princes, kings, and the emperor. At issue was the power of the Pope to forgive sin. Luther believed that divine wrath against mortal sin could only be mitigated through the merits of Christ, appropriated by the faith of the individual. When people guilty of gross sin presented themselves at his confessional, Luther was incensed that they expected to avoid true repentance by presenting indulgences they had purchased from the Dominican monk John Tetzel.  Heartfelt repentance, personal faith, and the merits of Christ were vital issues from the beginning of the Reform.<br>
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	 The Reformation view of justification by faith has its foundation in Genesis 15:6: “And Abraham believed in the Lord, and it was counted to him for righteousness.”  In his Genesis commentary, Luther commented on the word translated as “counted.” He understood it to mean think, reckon, impute, or account, as in God thinks of, accounts, or reckons us as righteous, because of our faith.  God imputes righteousness to us, as the KJV of Romans 4 says.<br>
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	This accounting of Abraham as righteous took place before there was a Decalogue or torah.  Moses was centuries away. Circumcision would not be implemented for several years; consequently, Abraham’s justification was by faith, apart from the deeds of the law. Faith in God’s promises is what God “thinks” of, or counts, as righteousness. Abraham had faith in a coming Messiah, we have faith in one who sacrificed Himself for us. 9 Luther held that Genesis 15:6 was the basis of justification teaching in both Romans and Galatians.  <br>
	Luther’s position on justification by faith was unequivocal:  We are, in ourselves, sinful. God considers us righteous because of our faith; consequently, we are righteous [justified] and sinful at the same time. While faith alone justifies, it is never truly alone.  It brings with it “a multitude of the most beautiful virtues.”  It follows that we meet the requirements of the law.  <br>
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	E. J. Waggoner, a principal proponent of righteousness by faith at the 1888 Minneapolis conference, had another view. His thoughts were published in the book Glad Tidings. He understood that the word “justify” means “make righteous.”   He based his interpretation on the meaning of the Latin suffix in the word <em>justitia</em>.     Waggoner wrote more about justification in a series published from October 1895 to September 1896 in the Signs of the Times magazine. These articles were bound into what became his commentary on Romans.  Again he defined “justify/justified” as “to make” or “be made” righteous.  He also cited Romans 5: 19 “So by  the obedience  of one shall many  be made righteous.” <br>
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	 Waggoner believed that the resurrection power of Christ dwelt in the believer, making the believer righteous.  God can declare a person righteous because he makes him righteous.  They are not merely accounted or thought of as righteous, they truly become righteous.  The justice of God declaring a sinner to be righteous lies in the fact that the believer is actually made righteous. Waggoner’s emphasis on making the sinner righteous led him to believe that the justified sinner would not sin anymore.    He chided the denomination for not coming to the place where it believed the Christian life should be a sinless life.  He believed that the law of God would be exalted by preaching 
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	Waggoner was not the first SDA to advocate what is now known as sinless perfection. J. N. Andrews, who died in 1883, wrote of overcomers standing before God without a mediator. He based his view on the “investigative judgment” and “blotting out of sin” doctrines, as he understood them.  Waggoner’s views, however, were based on his understanding of justification by faith. In his 1916 “Confession of Faith,” Waggoner denied belief in the investigative judgment and the blotting out of sin; nevertheless, in his Romans commentary, he espoused perfectionistic views akin to those of J. N. Andrews.<br>
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	Luther elaborated on the life of the justified believer in his commentary on Galatians, chapter 3. He believed that a residue of sin remained in the justified, a stain which would be eliminated when Christ returned. The residue of sin that remained polluted the life of the believer. The imputed righteousness of Christ spared the believer from condemnation on account of that pollution.     “Sins remain in us, and God hates them very much. Because of them it is necessary for us to have the imputation of righteousness, which comes to us on account of Christ, who is given to us and grasped by our faith. Meanwhile, as long as we are alive, we are supported and nourished at the bosom of divine mercy and forbearance, until the body of sin (Rom. 6:6) is abolished and we are raised up as new beings on that Day.“ 
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	Luther’s position follows Romans 8, which details the longing of all creation for deliverance from the corruption which vexes a fallen world. “….even we ourselves groan within ourselves eagerly, waiting for the adoption, the redemption of our body” (Rom 8: 23). That is what being an Adventist is all about—ultimate deliverance from sin within and without.
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	I’d often wondered where the doctrine of sinless perfection came from. It certainly sounded attractive; however, my daily life caused some serious doubts about it. Usual suspects included Ellen White, John Wesley, and M.L Andreasen. I was surprised to find that it had nothing to do with John Wesley and was taught in the denomination before Andreasen was born. <span> </span>J.N. Andrews, prior to his death in 1883, spoke of standing before God without an atoning sacrifice. There will be no need of an <span style="font-size:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:14px;">Advocate, Intercessor, Mediator, or High Priest</span> (Andrews, The Judgment, p.23).</span> <span> </span>Andrews tied sinless perfectionism directly to the Investigative Judgment in his posthumously published book “The Judgment. Its Events and Their Order.”
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	Andrews believed that the cleansing of the sanctuary and the investigative judgment were the same thing, a single event beginning in 1844. The Investigative Judgment also included the blotting out of sin. The sanctuary was cleansed by means of the IJ. The record of sin, preserved in the book of remembrance, polluted the sanctuary.
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	<span> </span>As Andrews understood it, every professed believer’s name was entered in the book of life. The believer’s life record was preserved in the book of remembrance. Every idle word, neglected duty, overt sin was there. If these things had not been confessed and overcome<span lang="ZH-CN">，</span> the “believer’s” name would be blotted out of the book of life. The investigation was a judgment of the believer’s faithfulness. <span>The record of our life, preserved in the book of remembrance, determines who will be accounted worthy. </span>
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	<span>Overcoming sin was an important element in the thinking of Andrews. Only those who were overcomers would be preserved in the book of remembrance and ultimately, the book of life. They would experience the justification of the [investigative] judgment and be accounted worthy of immortality (Andrews, The Judgment, p. 21). “…. Only</span><span> those who have fully repented of their sins and have perfectly accomplished the work of overcoming<i>” </i>will have their sins blotted out. “They must have completed their work of overcoming” (Andrews, The Judgment, pp. 20, 21).</span>
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	<span>Andrews was not alone in emphasizing the necessity of “overcoming” to succeed in the Investigative Judgment. James White, in his early Review and Herald article “The Judgment" also considered “overcoming” as necessary to pass the judgment.<span>  </span></span>
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	<span>“</span><span lang="EN">The white raiment in this text [Rev. 3:5] is the same as that offered by the True Witness. Hence, we conclude that the overcoming, which is necessary in order to have the names of the people of God retained in, and not blotted out of, the book of life, consists in obeying the testimony to the Laodiceans.” </span><span lang="EN">(ARSH January 29, 1857, page 101.3). </span>
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	<span>James White outlined the steps to success in the Investigative Judgment:1)“Perfect faith by works,” 2). “Be clothed with the righteousness of Christ.” 3) Get the anointing of the Holy Ghost </span><span lang="EN">(ARSH January 29, 1857, page 101.4).</span>
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	<span lang="EN">Ellen White describes</span><span lang="EN"> </span><span>how Jesus pleads for the salvation of those whose names come up in the Investigative Judgment. While not excusing their sin, He shows their faith and penitence, claiming forgiveness for them (GC, 412). God will not despise penitence and contrition (Psalm 51:17). They shall walk with God in white, for they are worthy.</span>
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	<span style="background-color:#193142; color:#dedede; font-size:15px; text-align:start">Well, if one looks the Protestant Reformers were clear on who they saw as the Bible said was antichrist and as 'the' Antichrist in prophecy. They explicitly identified the pope or the papacy with Antichrist. Martin Luther called the papacy “the kingdom of Babylon and of the true Antichrist” and repeatedly labeled the pope “the very Antichrist” in works such as '</span><a href="https://onthewing.org/user/Luther%20-%20Babylonian%20Captivity.pdf" rel="external nofollow" style="background-color:#193142; color:#a6dcff; font-size:15px; text-align:start" target="_blank">Babylonian Captivity of the Church</a><span style="background-color:#193142; color:#dedede; font-size:15px; text-align:start">' where he critiqued the sacramental system of the Roman Catholic church.</span><br style="background-color:#193142; color:#dedede; font-size:15px; text-align:start">
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	<span style="background-color:#193142; color:#dedede; font-size:15px; text-align:start">We find the following from the Reformers, and those who came after them believed on this..</span><br style="background-color:#193142; color:#dedede; font-size:15px; text-align:start">
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	<span style="background-color:#193142; color:#dedede; font-size:15px; text-align:start">'The Antichrist According to the Protestant Reformers</span><br style="background-color:#193142; color:#dedede; font-size:15px; text-align:start">
	<span style="background-color:#193142; color:#dedede; font-size:15px; text-align:start">The following quotations show what some of the most influential<span> </span></span><a href="https://bibleask.org/who-are-the-protestants/" rel="external nofollow" style="background-color:#193142; color:#a6dcff; font-size:15px; text-align:start" target="_blank">Protestant</a><span style="background-color:#193142; color:#dedede; font-size:15px; text-align:start"><span> </span>Reformers and early Christian leaders believed about<span> </span></span><a href="https://bibleask.org/who-is-the-antichrist/" rel="external nofollow" style="background-color:#193142; color:#a6dcff; font-size:15px; text-align:start" target="_blank">Antichrist</a><span style="background-color:#193142; color:#dedede; font-size:15px; text-align:start"><span> </span>(“the little horn” (</span><a href="https://bibleask.org/bible/daniel/7/8/" rel="external nofollow" style="background-color:#193142; color:#a6dcff; font-size:15px; text-align:start" target="_blank">Daniel 7:8</a><span style="background-color:#193142; color:#dedede; font-size:15px; text-align:start">), “the beast” (</span><a href="https://bibleask.org/bible/revelation/13/1/" rel="external nofollow" style="background-color:#193142; color:#a6dcff; font-size:15px; text-align:start" target="_blank">Revelation 13:1</a><span style="background-color:#193142; color:#dedede; font-size:15px; text-align:start">), and “the man of<span> </span></span><a href="https://bibleask.org/whats-the-definition-of-sin/" rel="external nofollow" style="background-color:#193142; color:#a6dcff; font-size:15px; text-align:start" target="_blank">sin</a><span style="background-color:#193142; color:#dedede; font-size:15px; text-align:start">” (</span><a href="https://bibleask.org/bible/2-thessalonians/2/3/" rel="external nofollow" style="background-color:#193142; color:#a6dcff; font-size:15px; text-align:start" target="_blank">2 Thessalonians 2:3</a><span style="background-color:#193142; color:#dedede; font-size:15px; text-align:start">).</span><br style="background-color:#193142; color:#dedede; font-size:15px; text-align:start">
	 
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	Martin Luther (1483-1546) (Lutheran):
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	<span style="background-color:#193142; color:#dedede; font-size:15px; text-align:start">“Luther … proved, by the revelations of Daniel and St. John, by the epistles of St.<span> </span></span><a href="https://bibleask.org/who-was-the-apostle-paul/" rel="external nofollow" style="background-color:#193142; color:#a6dcff; font-size:15px; text-align:start" target="_blank">Paul</a><span style="background-color:#193142; color:#dedede; font-size:15px; text-align:start">, St. Peter, and St. Jude, that the reign of<span> </span></span><a href="https://bibleask.org/who-is-the-antichrist/" rel="external nofollow" style="background-color:#193142; color:#a6dcff; font-size:15px; text-align:start" target="_blank">Antichrist</a><span style="background-color:#193142; color:#dedede; font-size:15px; text-align:start">, predicted and described in the<span> </span></span><a href="https://bibleask.org/what-is-the-bible/" rel="external nofollow" style="background-color:#193142; color:#a6dcff; font-size:15px; text-align:start" target="_blank">Bible</a><span style="background-color:#193142; color:#dedede; font-size:15px; text-align:start">, was the Papacy … And all the people did say,<span> </span></span><a href="https://bibleask.org/what-does-the-term-amen-mean/" rel="external nofollow" style="background-color:#193142; color:#a6dcff; font-size:15px; text-align:start" target="_blank">Amen</a><span style="background-color:#193142; color:#dedede; font-size:15px; text-align:start">! A holy terror siezed their<span> </span></span><a href="https://bibleask.org/what-does-the-word-soul-in-the-bible-mean/" rel="external nofollow" style="background-color:#193142; color:#a6dcff; font-size:15px; text-align:start" target="_blank">souls</a><span style="background-color:#193142; color:#dedede; font-size:15px; text-align:start">. It was Antichrist whom they beheld seated on the pontifical throne. This new idea, which derived greater strength from the prophetic descriptions launched forth by Luther into the midst of his contemporaries, inflicted the most terrible blow on Rome.”<span> </span></span><i style="background-color:#193142; color:#dedede; font-size:15px; text-align:start">History of the Reformation of the Sixteen Century</i><span style="background-color:#193142; color:#dedede; font-size:15px; text-align:start">, by J. H. Merle D’aubigne’s, book vi, chapter xii, p. 215.</span><br style="background-color:#193142; color:#dedede; font-size:15px; text-align:start">
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	<span style="background-color:#193142; color:#dedede; font-size:15px; text-align:start">Martin Luther declared, “We here are of the conviction that the papacy is the seat of the true and real Antichrist.” (Aug. 18, 1520).<span> </span></span><i style="background-color:#193142; color:#dedede; font-size:15px; text-align:start">The Prophetic<span> </span><a href="https://bibleask.org/how-does-faith-work/" rel="external nofollow" style="background-color:transparent; color:#a6dcff" target="_blank">Faith</a><span> </span>of Our Fathers,<span> </span></i><span style="background-color:#193142; color:#dedede; font-size:15px; text-align:start">by Le Roy Froom. Vol. 2., pg. 121.</span><br style="background-color:#193142; color:#dedede; font-size:15px; text-align:start">
	 
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	John Calvin (1509-1564) (Presbyterian):
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	<span style="background-color:#193142; color:#dedede; font-size:15px; text-align:start">“Some persons think us too severe and censorious when we call the Roman pontiff Antichrist. But those who are of this opinion do not consider that they bring the same charge of presumption against<span> </span></span><a href="https://bibleask.org/who-was-the-apostle-paul/" rel="external nofollow" style="background-color:#193142; color:#a6dcff; font-size:15px; text-align:start" target="_blank">Paul</a><span style="background-color:#193142; color:#dedede; font-size:15px; text-align:start"><span> </span>himself, after whom we speak and whose language we adopt… I shall briefly show that (</span><a href="https://bibleask.org/who-was-the-apostle-paul/" rel="external nofollow" style="background-color:#193142; color:#a6dcff; font-size:15px; text-align:start" target="_blank">Paul</a><span style="background-color:#193142; color:#dedede; font-size:15px; text-align:start">’s words in<span> </span></span><a href="https://ref.ly/2%20Thess.%202;nkjv?t=biblia" rel="external nofollow" style="background-color:#193142; color:#a6dcff; font-size:15px; text-align:start" target="_blank">II Thess. 2</a><span style="background-color:#193142; color:#dedede; font-size:15px; text-align:start">) are not capable of any other interpretation than that which applies them to the Papacy.”<span> </span></span><i style="background-color:#193142; color:#dedede; font-size:15px; text-align:start">Institutes of the Christian Religion,<span> </span></i><span style="background-color:#193142; color:#dedede; font-size:15px; text-align:start">by John Calvin.</span><br style="background-color:#193142; color:#dedede; font-size:15px; text-align:start">
	 
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	John Knox (1505-1572) (Scotch Presbyterian):
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	<span style="background-color:#193142; color:#dedede; font-size:15px; text-align:start">John Knox sought to counteract “that tyranny which the pope himself has for so many ages exercised over the<span> </span></span><a href="https://bibleask.org/word-church-stand/" rel="external nofollow" style="background-color:#193142; color:#a6dcff; font-size:15px; text-align:start" target="_blank">church</a><span style="background-color:#193142; color:#dedede; font-size:15px; text-align:start">.” As with Luther, he finally concluded that the Papacy was “the very antichrist, and<span> </span></span><a href="https://bibleask.org/who-is-the-son-of-perdition/" rel="external nofollow" style="background-color:#193142; color:#a6dcff; font-size:15px; text-align:start" target="_blank">son of perdition</a><span style="background-color:#193142; color:#dedede; font-size:15px; text-align:start">, of whom Paul speaks.”<span> </span></span><i style="background-color:#193142; color:#dedede; font-size:15px; text-align:start">The Zurich Letters</i><span style="background-color:#193142; color:#dedede; font-size:15px; text-align:start">, by John Knox, pg. 199.</span><br style="background-color:#193142; color:#dedede; font-size:15px; text-align:start">
	 
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	Thomas Cranmer (1489-1556) (Anglican):
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	<span style="background-color:#193142; color:#dedede; font-size:15px; text-align:start">“Whereof it followeth Rome to be the seat of antichrist, and the pope to be very antichrist himself. I could prove the same by many other scriptures, old writers, and strong reasons.” (Referring to prophecies in Revelation and Daniel.)<span> </span></span><i style="background-color:#193142; color:#dedede; font-size:15px; text-align:start">Works by Cranmer,<span> </span></i><span style="background-color:#193142; color:#dedede; font-size:15px; text-align:start">Vol. 1, pp. 6-7.</span><br style="background-color:#193142; color:#dedede; font-size:15px; text-align:start">
	 
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	Roger Williams (1603-1683) (First Baptist Pastor in America):
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	<a href="https://bibleask.org/what-does-the-word-pastor-mean-in-the-bible/" rel="external nofollow" style="background-color:#193142; color:#a6dcff; font-size:15px; text-align:start" target="_blank">Pastor</a><span style="background-color:#193142; color:#dedede; font-size:15px; text-align:start"><span> </span>Williams spoke of the Pope as “the pretended Vicar of<span> </span></span><a href="https://bibleask.org/what-is-the-meaning-of-christ/" rel="external nofollow" style="background-color:#193142; color:#a6dcff; font-size:15px; text-align:start" target="_blank">Christ</a><span style="background-color:#193142; color:#dedede; font-size:15px; text-align:start"><span> </span>on<span> </span></span><a href="https://bibleask.org/what-is-earth-to-god/" rel="external nofollow" style="background-color:#193142; color:#a6dcff; font-size:15px; text-align:start" target="_blank">earth</a><span style="background-color:#193142; color:#dedede; font-size:15px; text-align:start">, who sits as<span> </span></span><a href="https://bibleask.org/who-is-god/" rel="external nofollow" style="background-color:#193142; color:#a6dcff; font-size:15px; text-align:start" target="_blank">God</a><span style="background-color:#193142; color:#dedede; font-size:15px; text-align:start"><span> </span>over the<span> </span></span><a href="https://bibleask.org/what-is-the-purpose-of-the-sanctuary/" rel="external nofollow" style="background-color:#193142; color:#a6dcff; font-size:15px; text-align:start" target="_blank">Temple</a><span style="background-color:#193142; color:#dedede; font-size:15px; text-align:start"><span> </span>of<span> </span></span><a href="https://bibleask.org/who-is-god/" rel="external nofollow" style="background-color:#193142; color:#a6dcff; font-size:15px; text-align:start" target="_blank">God</a><span style="background-color:#193142; color:#dedede; font-size:15px; text-align:start">, exalting himself not only above all that is called<span> </span></span><a href="https://bibleask.org/who-is-god/" rel="external nofollow" style="background-color:#193142; color:#a6dcff; font-size:15px; text-align:start" target="_blank">God</a><span style="background-color:#193142; color:#dedede; font-size:15px; text-align:start">, but over the<span> </span></span><a href="https://bibleask.org/what-does-the-word-soul-in-the-bible-mean/" rel="external nofollow" style="background-color:#193142; color:#a6dcff; font-size:15px; text-align:start" target="_blank">souls</a><span style="background-color:#193142; color:#dedede; font-size:15px; text-align:start"><span> </span>and consciences of all his vassals, yea over the Spirit of<span> </span></span><a href="https://bibleask.org/what-is-the-meaning-of-christ/" rel="external nofollow" style="background-color:#193142; color:#a6dcff; font-size:15px; text-align:start" target="_blank">Christ</a><span style="background-color:#193142; color:#dedede; font-size:15px; text-align:start">, over the<span> </span></span><a href="https://bibleask.org/how-to-be-filled-with-holy-spirit/" rel="external nofollow" style="background-color:#193142; color:#a6dcff; font-size:15px; text-align:start" target="_blank">Holy Spirit</a><span style="background-color:#193142; color:#dedede; font-size:15px; text-align:start">, yea, and God himself…speaking against the God of<span> </span></span><a href="https://bibleask.org/is-heaven-a-real-place/" rel="external nofollow" style="background-color:#193142; color:#a6dcff; font-size:15px; text-align:start" target="_blank">heaven</a><span style="background-color:#193142; color:#dedede; font-size:15px; text-align:start">, thinking to change times and laws; but he is the<span> </span></span><a href="https://bibleask.org/who-is-the-son-of-perdition/" rel="external nofollow" style="background-color:#193142; color:#a6dcff; font-size:15px; text-align:start" target="_blank">son of perdition</a><span style="background-color:#193142; color:#dedede; font-size:15px; text-align:start"><span> </span>(</span><a href="https://ref.ly/2%20Thess.%202;nkjv?t=biblia" rel="external nofollow" style="background-color:#193142; color:#a6dcff; font-size:15px; text-align:start" target="_blank">II Thess. 2</a><span style="background-color:#193142; color:#dedede; font-size:15px; text-align:start">).”<span> </span></span><i style="background-color:#193142; color:#dedede; font-size:15px; text-align:start">The Prophetic<span> </span><a href="https://bibleask.org/how-does-faith-work/" rel="external nofollow" style="background-color:transparent; color:#a6dcff" target="_blank">Faith</a><span> </span>of Our Fathers,<span> </span></i><span style="background-color:#193142; color:#dedede; font-size:15px; text-align:start">by Froom, Vol. 3, pg. 52.</span><br style="background-color:#193142; color:#dedede; font-size:15px; text-align:start">
	 
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	The Westminster Confession of Faith (1647):
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	<span style="background-color:#193142; color:#dedede; font-size:15px; text-align:start">“There is no other head of the<span> </span></span><a href="https://bibleask.org/word-church-stand/" rel="external nofollow" style="background-color:#193142; color:#a6dcff; font-size:15px; text-align:start" target="_blank">church</a><span style="background-color:#193142; color:#dedede; font-size:15px; text-align:start"><span> </span>but the Lord<span> </span></span><a href="https://bibleask.org/who-is-jesus/" rel="external nofollow" style="background-color:#193142; color:#a6dcff; font-size:15px; text-align:start" target="_blank">Jesus</a><span style="background-color:#193142; color:#dedede; font-size:15px; text-align:start"><span> </span></span><a href="https://bibleask.org/what-is-the-meaning-of-christ/" rel="external nofollow" style="background-color:#193142; color:#a6dcff; font-size:15px; text-align:start" target="_blank">Christ</a><span style="background-color:#193142; color:#dedede; font-size:15px; text-align:start">. Nor can the pope of Rome in any sense be head thereof; but is that Antichrist, that man of<span> </span></span><a href="https://bibleask.org/whats-the-definition-of-sin/" rel="external nofollow" style="background-color:#193142; color:#a6dcff; font-size:15px; text-align:start" target="_blank">sin</a><span style="background-color:#193142; color:#dedede; font-size:15px; text-align:start"><span> </span>and<span> </span></span><a href="https://bibleask.org/who-is-the-son-of-perdition/" rel="external nofollow" style="background-color:#193142; color:#a6dcff; font-size:15px; text-align:start" target="_blank">son of perdition</a><span style="background-color:#193142; color:#dedede; font-size:15px; text-align:start"><span> </span>that exalteth himself in the<span> </span></span><a href="https://bibleask.org/word-church-stand/" rel="external nofollow" style="background-color:#193142; color:#a6dcff; font-size:15px; text-align:start" target="_blank">church</a><span style="background-color:#193142; color:#dedede; font-size:15px; text-align:start"><span> </span>against Christ and all that is called God.”<span> </span></span><i style="background-color:#193142; color:#dedede; font-size:15px; text-align:start">The Creeds of Christendom With a History and Critical Notes</i><span style="background-color:#193142; color:#dedede; font-size:15px; text-align:start">, by<span> </span></span><a href="https://bibleask.org/many-bible-characters-name-philip/" rel="external nofollow" style="background-color:#193142; color:#a6dcff; font-size:15px; text-align:start" target="_blank">Philip</a><span style="background-color:#193142; color:#dedede; font-size:15px; text-align:start"><span> </span>Schaff’s, III, p. 658, 659, ch. 25, sec. 6.</span><br style="background-color:#193142; color:#dedede; font-size:15px; text-align:start">
	 
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	Cotton Mather (1663-1728) (Congregational Theologian):
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	<span style="background-color:#193142; color:#dedede; font-size:15px; text-align:start">“The oracles of God foretold the rising of an Antichrist in the Christian Church: and in the Pope of Rome, all the characteristics of that Antichrist are so marvelously answered that if any who read the Scriptures do not see it, there is a marvelous blindness upon them.”<span> </span></span><i style="background-color:#193142; color:#dedede; font-size:15px; text-align:start">The Fall of<span> </span><a href="https://bibleask.org/what-does-the-word-babylon-mean-in-the-bible/" rel="external nofollow" style="background-color:transparent; color:#a6dcff" target="_blank">Babylon</a><span> </span></i><span style="background-color:#193142; color:#dedede; font-size:15px; text-align:start">by Cotton Mather in Froom’s book,<span> </span></span><i style="background-color:#193142; color:#dedede; font-size:15px; text-align:start">The Prophetic Faith of Our Fathers,<span> </span></i><span style="background-color:#193142; color:#dedede; font-size:15px; text-align:start">Vol. 3, pg. 113.</span><br style="background-color:#193142; color:#dedede; font-size:15px; text-align:start">
	 
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	John Wesley (1703-1791) (Methodist):
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	<span style="background-color:#193142; color:#dedede; font-size:15px; text-align:start">Speaking of the Papacy,<span> </span></span><a href="https://bibleask.org/who-was-john-wesley/" rel="external nofollow" style="background-color:#193142; color:#a6dcff; font-size:15px; text-align:start" target="_blank">John Wesley</a><span style="background-color:#193142; color:#dedede; font-size:15px; text-align:start"><span> </span>wrote, “He is in an emphatical sense, the Man of<span> </span></span><a href="https://bibleask.org/whats-the-definition-of-sin/" rel="external nofollow" style="background-color:#193142; color:#a6dcff; font-size:15px; text-align:start" target="_blank">Sin</a><span style="background-color:#193142; color:#dedede; font-size:15px; text-align:start">, as he increases all manner of sin above measure. And he is, too, properly styled the Son of Perdition, as he has caused the<span> </span></span><a href="https://bibleask.org/how-does-the-bible-refer-to-death/" rel="external nofollow" style="background-color:#193142; color:#a6dcff; font-size:15px; text-align:start" target="_blank">death</a><span style="background-color:#193142; color:#dedede; font-size:15px; text-align:start"><span> </span>of numberless multitudes, both of his opposers and followers… He it is…that exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped…claiming the highest power, and highest honour…claiming the prerogatives which belong to God alone.”<span> </span></span><i style="background-color:#193142; color:#dedede; font-size:15px; text-align:start">Antichrist and His Ten Kingdoms,<span> </span></i><span style="background-color:#193142; color:#dedede; font-size:15px; text-align:start">by<span> </span></span><a href="https://bibleask.org/who-was-john-wesley/" rel="external nofollow" style="background-color:#193142; color:#a6dcff; font-size:15px; text-align:start" target="_blank">John Wesley</a><span style="background-color:#193142; color:#dedede; font-size:15px; text-align:start">, pg. 110.</span><br style="background-color:#193142; color:#dedede; font-size:15px; text-align:start">
	 
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	A Great Cloud of Witnesses
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	<span style="background-color:#193142; color:#dedede; font-size:15px; text-align:start">“Wycliffe, Tyndale, Luther, Calvin, Cranmer; in the seventeenth century, Bunyan, the translators of the King James<span> </span></span><a href="https://bibleask.org/what-is-the-bible/" rel="external nofollow" style="background-color:#193142; color:#a6dcff; font-size:15px; text-align:start" target="_blank">Bible</a><span style="background-color:#193142; color:#dedede; font-size:15px; text-align:start"><span> </span>and the men who published the Westminster and Baptist confessions of Faith; Sir<span> </span></span><a href="https://bibleask.org/who-was-isaac-in-the-bible/" rel="external nofollow" style="background-color:#193142; color:#a6dcff; font-size:15px; text-align:start" target="_blank">Isaac</a><span style="background-color:#193142; color:#dedede; font-size:15px; text-align:start"><span> </span>Newton, Wesley, Whitfield,<span> </span></span><a href="https://bibleask.org/who-was-jonathan-in-the-bible/" rel="external nofollow" style="background-color:#193142; color:#a6dcff; font-size:15px; text-align:start" target="_blank">Jonathan</a><span style="background-color:#193142; color:#dedede; font-size:15px; text-align:start"><span> </span>Edwards; and more recently Spurgeon, Bishop J.C. Ryle and Dr. Martin Lloyd-Jones; these men among countless others, all saw the office of the Papacy as the antichrist.”<span> </span></span><i style="background-color:#193142; color:#dedede; font-size:15px; text-align:start">All Roads Lead to Rome,<span> </span></i><span style="background-color:#193142; color:#dedede; font-size:15px; text-align:start">by<span> </span></span><a href="https://bibleask.org/who-is-michael-the-archangel/" rel="external nofollow" style="background-color:#193142; color:#a6dcff; font-size:15px; text-align:start" target="_blank">Michael</a><span style="background-color:#193142; color:#dedede; font-size:15px; text-align:start"><span> </span>de Semlyen, Dorchestor House Publications, p. 205. 1991.'.....<span> </span></span><a href="https://bibleask.org/who-did-the-reformers-identify-as-the-antichrist/" rel="external nofollow" style="background-color:#193142; color:#a6dcff; font-size:15px; text-align:start" target="_blank">Who did the reformers identify as the antichrist? - BibleAsk</a>
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	Central to Luther's Reformation message was the doctrine of justification by faith.  The teaching is also known as justification by imputed righteousness. The word impute is translated by other words such as reckon, count, conclude. The idea is that God considers us or thinks of us as righteous because of our faith in Christ. Works are not a factor in God's considering us righteous. It is based solely upon our faith. That's why we sometimes hear the expression justification by faith alone. Genesis 15:6 is the foundation of this teaching. "Abraham believed the Lord and it was counted to him as righteousness." Abraham lived prior to Moses. There was no legal system to which he was obligated to comply. He was counted righteous prior to circumcision. The Roman papacy took issue with Luther over this issue, arguing that people must prepare themselves for justification by loving God; consequently, justification was not by faith alone. E.J. Waggoner dwelt more upon the idea of imparted righteousness instead of imputed righteousness. He considered justification in the sense of actually being made righteous, not just being thought of as righteous.
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	Commandment keeping didn't factor into Luther's thinking on justification. He emphasized living a Spirit filled life, guided by the Holy Spirit. Luther's thinking on justification is probably best understood by reading his Galatians commentary, especially on chapter 3. In his comments on chapters 1-4 of Galatians, he uses the word abrogate/ed around 40 times to describe the place of the law, including Decalogue, ceremonies, and social, i.e, all laws. We are not however, to use our freedom from law as a license to indulge our flesh. The Holy Spirit empowers us to live in a more Christlike way. Laws only show us how we fail to do that.
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	(Wasn't sure where to post this? If it doesn't go here and needs to be moved just let me know, thank you!!)
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<p>
	<span>Dietrich Bonhoeffer, a German theologian, is a Christian hero for many. Executed by the Nazis just days before the end of WWII for his participation in a plot to assassinate Hitler, Bonhoeffer is hailed as a 20th-century martyr. But Bonhoeffer struggled with a moral dilemma – his religious views were in stark contrast to the evil he saw all around him. He chose to face possible imprisonment and execution and to remain faithful to the principles of his belief in God. Across the political and theological spectrum, Bonhoeffer is celebrated as an icon of true Christianity and his theological writings are classics throughout the Christian world.</span>
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<p>
	<a href="https://adventistreview.tv/programs/theincrediblejourney?cid=3440323&amp;permalink=6116-tij-bonhoeffer-the-preacher-and-the-swastika-brodcast-2830-ausnzus-fix-97ddd8" ipsnoembed="true" rel="external nofollow">https://adventistreview.tv/programs/theincrediblejourney?</a>
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	It was Philip of Hesse and his soldiers of the reformed party who chiefly<br>
	contributed to put an end to the disorders and cruelties of which Munster<br>
	had been the scene.
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<p>
	<span style="font-size:14px;">The only result of this episode for Protestantism was<br>
	to demonstrate that it had no connection with the fanaticism of these<br>
	would-be inspired ones. Protestant opinion was on this occasion<br>
	distinguished by various characteristic features. Its intention was that<br>
	punishment should be inflicted not for the religious doctrine of the<br>
	enthusiasts, but only for their rebellion and other ordinary crimes. There<br>
	have been, indeed, and there are especially at the present time a large<br>
	number of pious and zealous Christians who advocate adult baptism; and<br>
	we are bound to respect them although we do not share their views.</span>
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	<span style="font-size:14px;">Moreover the baptism practiced by the enthusiasts of Munster, was not<br>
	that of the sect of Baptists; it was a proceeding which denoted adhesion to<br>
	the fanatical system the triumph of which they pretended to insure, a<br>
	ceremony such as is adopted in many secret societies. The essential<br>
	characteristics of their system were their alleged visions, their<br>
	unquestionable licentiousness, the confusion which they brought upon the<br>
	institutions of social life, their tyranny and their cruelty.</span>
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	<span style="background-color:#ffffff; color:#353c41; font-size:14px; text-align:start">D'Aubigne,<span> </span></span><em style="background-color:#ffffff; color:#353c41; font-size:14px; text-align:start">History of the Reformation in the Time of </em><span style="background-color: rgb( var(--theme-area_background_reset) );">Calvin   (vol.8, book 16, ch.5).</span>
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	testing 1234567
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	The first of these is termed probabilism. This is a device which enables a man to commit any act, be it ever<br>
	so manifest a breach of the moral and Divine law, without the least restraint of conscience, remorse of<br>
	mind, or guilt before God. What is probabilism? By way of answer, we shall suppose that a man has a great<br>
	mind to do a certain act, of the lawfulness of which he is in doubt. He finds that there are two opinions<br>
	upon the point: the one probably true, to the effect that the act is lawful; the other more probably true, to the<br>
	effect that the act is sinful. Under the Jesuit regimen the man is at liberty to act upon the probable opinion.<br>
	The act is probably right, but more probably wrong, nevertheless he is safe in doing it, in virtue of the<br>
	doctrine of probabilism. It is important to ask, what makes all opinion probable? To make an opinion<br>
	probable a Jesuit finds easy indeed. If a single doctor has pronounced in its favor, though a score of doctors<br>
	may have condemned it, or if the man can imagine in his own mind something like a tolerable reason for<br>
	doing the act, the opinion that it is lawful becomes probable. It will be hard to name an act for which a<br>
	Jesuit authority may not be produced, and harder still to find a man whose invention is so poor as not to<br>
	furnish him with what he deems a good reason for doing what he is inclined to, and therefore it may be<br>
	pronounced impossible to instance a deed, however manifestly opposed to the light of nature and the law of<br>
	God, which may not be committed under the shield of the monstrous dogma of probabilism.
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<p>
	Wylie, J.A., History of Protestantism
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<p>
	Book 15, chapter 4
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	<span style="font-size:18px;">He [Calvin] professed with all his heart the doctrine enunciated in the early creeds,<br>
	the Nicene and the so-called Athanasian, which set forth, perhaps with<br>
	superfluity of words, but nevertheless with much force, a faith which is<br>
	dear to Christian men. But he felt that these writings were wanting in<br>
	evangelical simplicity. The phrases ‘God of God, Light of Light’ (<em>Qeo&lt;v ejk<br>
	Qeou~</em>) used in the Nicene creed, appeared to him less apostolic than<br>
	Oriental in their character. It shocked him that the <em>Quicunque</em>, better<br>
	known under the name of the Athanasian creed, just at the time when it is<br>
	going to make subtle distinctions, such as the faith of a simple Christian<br>
	man cannot comprehend, should begin by asserting — .’Whosoever will be<br>
	saved, before all things it is necessary that he hold the Catholic faith (that<br>
	of the creed). Which faith, except everyone do keep whole and undefiled,<br>
	without doubt he shall perish everlastingly.’ *Caroli’s ignorance as to this<br>
	profession of faith was so great that he believed it was drawn up at Nicaea<br>
	in A.D. 325, and by Athanasius. This was startling to Calvin. The creed<br>
	appears, in fact, to have been formed gradually in the African church, some<br>
	of its formula being met with towards the close of the seventh century; but<br>
	it did not exist as a whole until the age of Charlemagne, nearly five<br>
	centuries after the council of Nicaea.</span>
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	*Caroli was a doctor of the Sorbonne. He had accused Calvin of Arianism.
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<p>
	<span style="font-size:16px">D'Aubigne</span><em><span style="font-size:16px">, History of the Reformation in the Time of Calvin, </span></em><span style="font-size:16px">vol. 6, 262, 263</span>
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<p>
	<span style="font-size:16px">book 11 chapter 5</span>
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	<span style="color:#000000; font-size:20.4304px; text-align:start">"For some contend that original sin is not a depravity or corruption in the nature of man, but only servitude, or a condition of mortality [not an innate evil nature, but only a blemish or imposed load, or burden], which those propagated from Adam bear because of the guilt of another [namely, Adam’s sin], and without any depravity of their own. Besides, they add that no one is condemned to eternal death on account of original sin, just as those who are born of a bond-woman are slaves, and bear this condition without any natural blemish, but because of the calamity of their mother [while, of themselves, they are born without fault, like other men: thus original sin is not an innate evil, but a defect and burden which we bear since Adam, but we are not on that account personally in sin and inherited disgrace].<span> </span></span><span id="ap-ii-0006" style="color:#000000; font-size:0.6rem; text-align:start; vertical-align:super"><span id="6" style="font-size:0.6rem; vertical-align:super">6</span></span><span style="color:#000000; font-size:20.4304px; text-align:start"><span> </span>To show that this impious opinion is displeasing to us, we made mention of “concupiscence,” and, with the best intention, have termed and explained it as “diseases,” that “the nature of men is born corrupt and full of faults” [not a part of man, but the entire person with its entire nature is born in sin as with a hereditary disease]....</span>
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<p>
	<span style="color:#000000; font-size:20.4304px; text-align:start">Defense of the Augsburg Confession</span>
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<p>
	<span style="color:#000000; font-size:20.4304px; text-align:start">Article 2</span>
</p>

<p>
	<a href="https://bookofconcord.org/defense/" ipsnoembed="true" rel="external nofollow">Defense of the Augsburg Confession · BookOfConcord.org</a>
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]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">89064</guid><pubDate>Sat, 03 Jun 2023 06:04:59 +0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Melanchthon's Commonplaces, 1521</title><link>https://clubadventist.com/forums/topic/87013-melanchthons-commonplaces-1521/</link><description><![CDATA[<p>
	[Melanchthon's 1521 edition of the "Commonplaces of Theology" is the earliest systematic theology of the Reformation]
</p>

<p>
	"Luther's little book "Christian Liberty" is at hand. He who wishes can seek from it further commendations of faith. However, I am of the opinion that the power of faith will be more clearly learned from Scriptural examples. 
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<p>
	In Genesis 15: 1, God promises Abraham his mercy in these magnificent words: " Fear not, Abraham, I am thy protector and thy exceeding great reward." A little later he promises him posterity. Then follows the word: "Abraham believed God and it was imputed unto him for righteousness." What did Abraham believe? Nothing but that God exists? Nay rather he believed the promise of God and then declared that faith by an illustrious example, as when he would have sacrificed his son nothing doubting but that God would have given him posterity, even though his son were slain. Now since faith is to give assent to the word of God, what Abraham really believed is made clear enough from the promise when God adds that he is Abraham's protector. Therefore, they believe who consider God as a protector, a father, and not only as a judge."
</p>

<p>
	Melanchthon, Philip and Charles L. Hill. The <em>Loci Communes</em> of Philip Melanchthon, 179. Eugene: Wipf and Stock Publishers, 2007.
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]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">87013</guid><pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2023 15:02:05 +0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Russian Reformation That Might Have Been</title><link>https://clubadventist.com/forums/topic/87038-russian-reformation-that-might-have-been/</link><description><![CDATA[<p>
	The Reformation That Might Have Been<br>
	Source: Article by Oleg Zhigankov in Perspective Digest Vol. 7, No, 3 2002
</p>

<p>
	Russia had its own Reformation, an event that has not received its deserved attention in the Western world. ...<br>
	This significant movement had the potential to change not only Russian history but also the religious situation in the West...<br>
	It's theology was rooted in the Bible, the movement was not affected by Byzantine Christianity .  Since adherents were not numerous, its activity smoldered throughout the centuries, only to burst into flame in the 1400's....
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<p>
	In Russia, the Bible had not been kept from the people as in Catholic countries.  From the writings of Ivan Chiornyl and the brothers Ivan and Feodor Kuritsyn... it is clear that the principles of faith, the lifestyle and the teachings of the Sabbatarians within the movement were based on the Bible.  As far back as the 11th century parts of the Bible had been translated into the language of the people and by 1581 Russians had a complete printed Bible....<br>
	By the second half of the 15th century a large group of Russian Orthodox clergy in Novgorod supported and promoted the Reformation movement.... <br>
	The Reformation found support in both the upper and lower classes....
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<p>
	<a href="https://digitalcommons.andrews.edu/pd/vol7/iss3/12/" ipsnoembed="true" rel="external nofollow">https://digitalcommons.andrews.edu/pd/vol7/iss3/12/</a> 
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]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">87038</guid><pubDate>Sun, 05 Feb 2023 10:14:11 +0000</pubDate></item><item><title>German New Testament, 1522</title><link>https://clubadventist.com/forums/topic/86777-german-new-testament-1522/</link><description><![CDATA[<p>
	One would have said that the very workmen [Luther &amp; Melanchthon] felt the importance of the task in which they were<br>
	engaged. Three presses were employed in this labor, and ten thousand sheets, says Luther, were printed<br>
	daily.  At length, on the 21st September 1522, appeared the complete edition of three thousand<br>
	copies, in two folio volumes, with this simple title: THE NEW TESTAMENT — GERMAN —<br>
	Wittenberg. It bore no name of man.
</p>

<p>
	From Scripture and faith, two sources which in reality are but one, the life of the Gospel has flowed,<br>
	and is still spreading over the world. These two principles combated two fundamental errors. Faith was<br>
	opposed to the Pelagian tendency of Roman-catholicism; Scripture, to the theory of tradition and the<br>
	authority of Rome.
</p>

<p>
	The publication of the New Testament in the vulgar tongue is an important epoch in the Reformation. If<br>
	Feldkirchen’s marriage was the first step in the progress of the Reformation from doctrine into social<br>
	life; if the abolition of monastic vows was the second; if the re-establishment of the Lord’s Supper was<br>
	the third, — the publication of the New Testament was perhaps the most important of all. It worked an<br>
	entire change in society: not only in the Presbytery of the priest, in the monk’s cell, and in the<br>
	sanctuary of our Lord; but also in the mansions of the great, in the houses of the citizens, and cottages<br>
	of the peasants. When the Bible began to be read in the families of Christendom, Christendom itself<br>
	was changed.
</p>

<p>
	Then arose other habits, other manners, other conversations, and another life. With the publication of<br>
	the New Testament, the Reformation left the School and the Church to take possession of the hearts of<br>
	the people.
</p>

<p>
	 J. H. Merle D’Aubigne, <em>History of the Reformation of the Sixteenth Century</em>, b. 14, ch. 9.
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	20. But what is the Gospel? It is this, that God has sent his Son into the<br>
	world to save sinners, John 3:16, and to crush hell, overcome death,<br>
	take away sin and satisfy the law. But what must you do? Nothing but<br>
	accept this and look up to your Redeemer and firmly believe that he has<br>
	done all this for your good and freely gives you all as your own, so that in<br>
	the terrors of death, sin and hell you can confidently say and boldly depend<br>
	upon it, and say: Although I do not fulfill the law, although sin is still<br>
	present and I fear death and hell, nevertheless from the Gospel I know that<br>
	Christ has bestowed upon me all his works. I am sure he will not lie, his<br>
	promise he will surely fulfill. And as a sign of this I have received baptism.<br>
	For he says to his apostles and disciples: “Go ye into all the world, and<br>
	preach the Gospel to the whole creation. He that believeth and is baptized<br>
	shall be saved; but he that disbelieveth shall be condemned,” Mark<br>
	16:15-16.
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<p>
	Upon this I anchor my confidence. For I know that my Lord<br>
	Christ has overcome death, sin, hell and the devil all for my good. For he<br>
	was innocent, as Peter says: “Who did no sin, neither was guile found in his<br>
	mouth.” 1 Peter 2:22. Therefore sin and death were not able to slay<br>
	him, hell could not hold him, and he has become their Lord, and has<br>
	granted this to all who accept and believe it. All this is effected not by my<br>
	works or merits; but by pure grace, goodness and mercy.
</p>

<p>
	<span style="background-color:#ffffff; color:#353c41; font-size:14px; text-align:start">Lenker, John Nicholas, translator.<span> </span></span><em style="color:#353c41; font-size:14px; text-align:start">Sermons of Martin Luther</em><span style="background-color:#ffffff; color:#353c41; font-size:14px; text-align:start">, vol. 2 pp. 317, 318. By Martin Luther, n.d.</span>
</p>

<p>
	[Sermon delivered in 1522]
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	<br>
	"For this life is nothing more than a life of faith, of love, and of<br>
	sanctified affliction. But these three will never be perfect in us while we<br>
	live here on earth, and no one possesses them in perfection except Christ.<br>
	He is the sun and is set for our example, which we must imitate. For this<br>
	reason there will always be found among us some that are weak, others<br>
	that are strong, and again some that are stronger; these are able to suffer<br>
	less, those more; and so, they must all continue in the imitation of Christ.
</p>

<p>
	For this life is a constant progress from faith to faith, from love to love,<br>
	from patience to patience, and from affliction to affliction. It is not<br>
	righteousness, but justification; not purity, but purification; we have not yet<br>
	arrived at our destination, but we are all on the road, and some are farther<br>
	advanced than others. God is satisfied to find us busy at work and full of<br>
	determination. When he is ready, he will come quickly, strengthen faith and<br>
	love, and in an instant take us from this life to heaven. But while we live on<br>
	earth we must bear with one another, as Christ also bore with us, seeing<br>
	that none of us is perfect."
</p>

<p>
	<span style="background-color:#ffffff; color:#353c41; font-size:14px; text-align:start">Lenker, John Nicholas, translator.<span> </span></span><em style="color:#353c41; font-size:14px; text-align:start">Sermons of Martin Luther</em><span style="background-color:#ffffff; color:#353c41; font-size:14px; text-align:start">, vol. 2 p. 178. By Martin Luther, n.d</span>.
</p>

<p>
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	<br>
	<span style="font-size:14px;">"St. Paul writes in Romans 4:25 as follows: Christ was delivered up<br>
	for our trespasses, and was raised for our Paul is indeed the<br>
	man who extols Christ in a masterly manner, telling us exactly why and for<br>
	what purpose he suffered and how we should conform ourselves to his<br>
	sufferings, namely, that he died for our sins. This is a correct interpretation<br>
	of the sufferings of Christ, by which we may profit. And as it is not<br>
	sufficient to know and believe that Christ has died, so it will not suffice to<br>
	know and believe that he rose with a transfigured body and is now in a<br>
	state of joy and blessedness, no longer subject to mortality, for all this<br>
	would profit me nothing or very little. But when I come to understand the<br>
	fact that all the works God does in Christ are done for me, nay, they are<br>
	bestowed upon and given to me, the effect of his resurrection being that I<br>
	also will arise and live with him; that will cause me to rejoice. This must be<br>
	brought home to our hearts, and we must not merely hear it with the ears<br>
	of our body nor merely confess it with our mouth."</span>
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<p>
	<span style="font-size:14px;"><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); color: rgb(53, 60, 65); text-align: start;">Lenker, John Nicholas, translator. <em>Sermons of Martin Luther</em>, vol. 2 pp. 203, 204. By Martin Luther, n.d. </span></span>
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	“When the Comforter is come, he will convict the world in respect<br>
	of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment; of sin, because they<br>
	believe not on me.” (John)
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	2. Here we must let that be “sin” which is ascribed to, and included in, sin<br>
	by the high majesty of heaven. In the text only unbelief is mentioned as sin,<br>
	“because,” says the Lord, “they believe not on me.”
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	3. But what is it to believe on Christ? It is not simply to believe that he is<br>
	God, or that he reigns in heaven in equal power with God the Father; many<br>
	others believe that: But I believe on Christ when I believe that he is a<br>
	gracious God to me and has taken my sins upon himself and reconciled me<br>
	with God the Father, that my sins are his and his righteousness mine, that<br>
	there is an intermingling and an exchange, that Christ is a mediator<br>
	between me and the Father. For the sins of the whole world were laid upon<br>
	Christ, and the righteousness of the Father, that is in Christ, will swallow<br>
	up all our sins.
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	No sins dare and can remain upon Christ. Such faith makes me pure and<br>
	acceptable to the Father. Of this faith the pope and our highly educated<br>
	leaders know nothing to speak, much less to believe. They teach that man<br>
	should do many good works if he is to be acceptable to God and be free<br>
	from sin, and that then God imparts to him his grace.
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	4. However, here the Lord speaks quite differently, and says: “The Holy<br>
	Spirit will convict the world in respect of sin, because they believe not on<br>
	me.” Unbelief only is mentioned here as sin, and faith is praised as<br>
	suppressing and extinguishing the other sins, even the sins in the saints.<br>
	Faith is so strong and overpowering that no sin dare put it under any<br>
	obligation. Although sins are present in pious and believing persons, they<br>
	are not imputed to them, nor shall their sins condemn them.  This is Paul’s<br>
	meaning when he says in Romans 8:1: “There is therefore now no<br>
	condemnation to them that are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the<br>
	flesh, but after the Spirit.” Their hearts are cleansed by faith, as Peter<br>
	writes in Acts 15:9. Therefore, whatever they do in this faith, in this<br>
	assurance is all good, pure and pleasing to God. On the contrary, without<br>
	this faith all their doings are sin and destruction, though their good works<br>
	may shine and glitter as beautifully as they will, and ever though they raise<br>
	the dead. For Paul says: “Whatsoever is not of faith is sin,” Romans<br>
	14:23.
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	Therefore, there is no help from any creature against this [judgment of the law]. God himself had to have compassion on our misery and to conceive a plan for our deliverance, as he said in the prophecy of Isaiah, 49:25: Even the captives of the mighty shall be taken away, and the prey of the terrible shall be delivered. This had to be done by Christ, the Son of God himself, and he therefore became man, that is, took upon himself death and its cause, sin and the wrath of God, in order that he might free us from these and bring us to life and righteousness. For, as by one man both sin and death came upon all of us; so also by one man must victory over death, righteousness and life be given to us, as St. Paul says, Romans 5:17.
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	Lenker, John Nicholas, translator. Sermons of Martin Luther, vol.5 p. 127. By Martin Luther, ~1905. Ages Software, downloaded.
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	<span lang="EN-US" style="color:black; font-size:12.0pt">Sin is attended by two evils: First, it takes us captive. In its power we</span>
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	<span lang="EN-US" style="color:black; font-size:12.0pt">are incapable of doing good, of desiring or even recognizing good. Sin thus</span>
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	<span lang="EN-US" style="color:black; font-size:12.0pt">robs us of power, freedom and light. The second evil attendant upon sin is</span>
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	<span lang="EN-US" style="color:black; font-size:12.0pt">the natural outcome of the first: we forsake good to engage only in iniquity</span>
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	<span lang="EN-US" style="color:black; font-size:12.0pt">and impurity, tilling with hard and heavy labor the land of wicked Pharaoh</span>
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	<span lang="EN-US" style="color:black; font-size:12.0pt">in Egypt. But when, through faith, Christ comes, he liberates from the</span>
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	<span lang="EN-US" style="color:black; font-size:12.0pt">bondage of Egypt and gives power to do good. That power is our first</span>
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	<span lang="EN-US" style="color:black; font-size:12.0pt">gain.</span>
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	<span lang="EN-US" style="color:black; font-size:12.0pt">Afterward, the effort of our entire lives should be to purge from body</span>
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	<span lang="EN-US" style="color:black; font-size:12.0pt">and soul unrighteous, unregenerate, and worldly conduct. Until death our</span>
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	<span lang="EN-US" style="color:black; font-size:12.0pt">lives should be nothing but purification. While it is true that faith instantly</span>
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	<span lang="EN-US" style="color:black; font-size:12.0pt">redeems from all legal guilt and sets free, yet evil desires remain in body</span>
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	<span lang="EN-US" style="color:black; font-size:12.0pt">and soul, as odor and disease cling to a dungeon. Faith occupies itself with</span>
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	<span lang="EN-US" style="color:black; font-size:12.0pt">purifying from these. Typical of this principle, Lazarus in the Gospel was</span>
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	<span lang="EN-US" style="color:black; font-size:12.0pt">raised from the dead by a single word (John 11:44), but afterward the</span>
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	<span lang="EN-US" style="color:black; font-size:12.0pt">shroud and napkin had to be removed. And the half-dead man whose</span>
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	<span lang="EN-US" style="color:black; font-size:12.0pt">wounds the Samaritan bound up and whom the Samaritan carried home,</span>
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	<span lang="EN-US" style="color:black; font-size:12.0pt">had to remain in the inn until he was restored.</span>
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	<span style="background-color:#ffffff; color:#353c41; font-size:14px; text-align:start">Lenker, John Nicholas, translator.</span><em style="background-color:#ffffff; color:#353c41; font-size:14px; text-align:start"><span> </span>Sermons of Martin Luther</em><span style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: start;">, vol.6 pp. 111,112. By Martin Luther, Publisher unknown, ~1909.</span>
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