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The DHS/Office of Intelligence and Analysis (I&A) has no specific information that domestic rightwing* terrorists are currently planning acts of violence, but rightwing extremists may be gaining new recruits by playing on their fears about

several emergent issues. The economic downturn and the election of the first African American president present unique drivers for rightwing radicalization and recruitment.

The above is the key finding of an Intelligence Assessment Report April 2009.

These are not surprising conclusions are they? So why the fuss?

Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence.

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The DHS/Office of Intelligence and Analysis (I&A) has no specific information that domestic rightwing* terrorists are currently planning acts of violence, but rightwing extremists may be gaining new recruits by playing on their fears about

several emergent issues. The economic downturn and the election of the first African American president present unique drivers for rightwing radicalization and recruitment.

The above is the key finding of an Intelligence Assessment Report April 2009.

These are not surprising conclusions are they? So why the fuss?

No it really isn't. Our president has already taken the lead in targeting private citizens that have not committed any crime.

What a shot at our vets. Seems they knew in advance that they had nothing to fear. No riot police,no police on horses.

What a contrast to what left wing protesters require

One thing that shows a stark contrast to the left wing love and kindness.

No reports of fights,urine bombs, etc at the tea parties. Our local news even commented on the fact that these right wing terrorists left the area they used clean and free of garbage.

Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this.

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These are not surprising conclusions are they? So why the fuss?

But they aren't conclusions. They are just assertions about what "might be" or "may be."

It's called begging the question. They assume the outcome they claim to look for. But they cite no evidence, just speculation.

“the slovenliness of our language makes it easier to have foolish thoughts.” George Orwell

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There was a report that was equally strong on the left-wing terrorist possibilities. That report did not receive as much attention for obvious reasons.

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The recognition that America was founded as a Christian nation.

Repeal the NAFTA and GATT treaties.

Put America FIRST in all foreign matters

Stop all Foreign Aid Immediately

Cut off trade with countries that refuse to establish strict environmental laws.

Abolish ALL discriminatory affirmative action programs

Put American troops on our border to STOP the flood of illegal aliens

Abolish all anti-gun laws and encourage every adult to own a weapon

Actively promote love and appreciation of our unique European culture

We must recognize it as the bedrock of American liberty and self government.

Outlaw the purchase of American property and industry by foreign corporations and investors.

The land belongs to Americans and their posterity and should not be up for sale.

Drug testing for welfare recipients

Repeal the Federal Reserve Act.

Balance the budget

Rehabilitate our public school system.

A flat income tax should be introduced to allow for the funding of community, state and federal projects.

Abortion should be outlawed except to save the mother's life or in case of rape or incest.

We support the death penalty for those convicted of molestation and rape

We support a national law against the practice of homosexuality

We support the placing of all persons HIV positive into national hospitals

Restoring individual freedom to Christian America.

We support the voluntary repatriation of everyone not satisfied with living under White Christian rules of conduct back to the native lands of their people

Everyone who can work should work

We support a return to parental authority without government interference in the raising of our children

We respect the right of homeowners and that no one should ever be forced from their home for the non payment of taxes

We support state sovereignty resolutions

We advocate a strong defense department to safeguard American citizens

We support all U.S. veterans

Can anyone guess whose party platform this is? I made a few changes.

Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence.

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There was a report that was equally strong on the left-wing terrorist possibilities. That report did not receive as much attention for obvious reasons.

Good point Redwood.

I would like to ask ... WHY was the left-wing terrorist tendencies report not given the press that the right-wing report was given?

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Because the right wing made a big fuss about the right wing extremists report. It seems to have touched a raw nerve.

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Homeland Security says the assessments are part of a series published "to facilitate a greater understanding of the phenomenon of violent radicalization in the United States."

In February, the department issued a report to law enforcement that said left-wing extremist groups were likely to use cyber attacks more often in the next 10 years to further their cause.

In September, the agency highlighted how right-wing extremists over the past five years have used the immigration debate as a recruiting tool.

Between September 2008 and Feb. 5, the agency issued at least four reports, obtained by The Associated Press, on individual extremist groups such as the Moors, Vinlanders Social Club, Volksfront and Hammerskin Nation.

But the references to military veterans in the recent report angered conservatives.

Blame Conservatives not the media

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The recognition that America was founded as a Christian nation.

Repeal the NAFTA and GATT treaties.

Put America FIRST in all foreign matters

Stop all Foreign Aid Immediately

Cut off trade with countries that refuse to establish strict environmental laws.

Abolish ALL discriminatory affirmative action programs

Put American troops on our border to STOP the flood of illegal aliens

Abolish all anti-gun laws and encourage every adult to own a weapon

Actively promote love and appreciation of our unique European culture

We must recognize it as the bedrock of American liberty and self government.

Outlaw the purchase of American property and industry by foreign corporations and investors.

The land belongs to Americans and their posterity and should not be up for sale.

Drug testing for welfare recipients

Repeal the Federal Reserve Act.

Balance the budget

Rehabilitate our public school system.

A flat income tax should be introduced to allow for the funding of community, state and federal projects.

Abortion should be outlawed except to save the mother's life or in case of rape or incest.

We support the death penalty for those convicted of molestation and rape

We support a national law against the practice of homosexuality

We support the placing of all persons HIV positive into national hospitals

Restoring individual freedom to Christian America.

We support the voluntary repatriation of everyone not satisfied with living under White Christian rules of conduct back to the native lands of their people

Everyone who can work should work

We support a return to parental authority without government interference in the raising of our children

We respect the right of homeowners and that no one should ever be forced from their home for the non payment of taxes

We support state sovereignty resolutions

We advocate a strong defense department to safeguard American citizens

We support all U.S. veterans

Can anyone guess whose party platform this is? I made a few changes.

Shouldn't make changes when the meds wear off.

“the slovenliness of our language makes it easier to have foolish thoughts.” George Orwell

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Because the right wing made a big fuss about the right wing extremists report. It seems to have touched a raw nerve.

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Homeland Security says the assessments are part of a series published "to facilitate a greater understanding of the phenomenon of violent radicalization in the United States."

In February, the department issued a report to law enforcement that said left-wing extremist groups were likely to use cyber attacks more often in the next 10 years to further their cause.

In September, the agency highlighted how right-wing extremists over the past five years have used the immigration debate as a recruiting tool.

Between September 2008 and Feb. 5, the agency issued at least four reports, obtained by The Associated Press, on individual extremist groups such as the Moors, Vinlanders Social Club, Volksfront and Hammerskin Nation.

But the references to military veterans in the recent report angered conservatives.

Blame Conservatives not the media

You're putting the cart before the horse.

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Our president has already taken the lead in targeting private citizens that have not committed any crime.

Are you talking about Bush or Obama?

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[seems they knew in advance that they had nothing to fear. No riot police,no police on horses.

What a contrast to what left wing protesters require

One thing that shows a stark contrast to the left wing love and kindness.

No reports of fights,urine bombs, etc at the tea parties. Our local news even commented on the fact that these right wing terrorists left the area they used clean and free of garbage.

I think the report was talking about events in the future. I have no doubt the right wing can be at least as violent as the left wing. All those Nazi, skinhead, survivalist types won't shy away from a battle. I'm guessing what we've seen so far will pale in comparison.

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[seems they knew in advance that they had nothing to fear. No riot police,no police on horses.

What a contrast to what left wing protesters require

One thing that shows a stark contrast to the left wing love and kindness.

No reports of fights,urine bombs, etc at the tea parties. Our local news even commented on the fact that these right wing terrorists left the area they used clean and free of garbage.

I think the report was talking about events in the future. I have no doubt the right wing can be at least as violent as the left wing. All those Nazi, skinhead, survivalist types won't shy away from a battle. I'm guessing what we've seen so far will pale in comparison.

Based on what? Generally you do not see protests by conservatives. Finally enough felt the squeeze to their freedoms and finances

Nor do you see survivalists protesting.

You do see animal rights,welfare rights activists,etc. This is the first time I remember so many conservatives forming so many rallies across the nation.

Nor do left wing protesters hold rallies that the police can literally stay home.

Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this.

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Yes. The protests from the Right are news worthy because they ususally don't do that.

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Our president has already taken the lead in targeting private citizens that have not committed any crime.

Are you talking about Bush or Obama?

What is the point in asking a question when you already know the answer? Is it just for effect or???

Bush is gone,now I know that anything Bush did or it was alleged he did has caused Obama to do as he is doing

I know that Obama is not responsible for his own in your mind.

Just in case you truly were confused I was referring to the lies and subterfuge over AIG bonuses and the president lying thru his teeth . Oh the shock. Wonder if they will get around to the 210 million in retention bonuses for Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac. Wouldn't it be fun to know how much Barney Franks live in companion got, wouldn't it??

Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this.

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I think the report was talking about events in the future. I have no doubt the right wing can be at least as violent as the left wing. All those Nazi, skinhead, survivalist types won't shy away from a battle. I'm guessing what we've seen so far will pale in comparison. [/quote']

Based on what? Generally you do not see protests by conservatives. Finally enough felt the squeeze to their freedoms and finances

Nor do you see survivalists protesting.

You do see animal rights,welfare rights activists,etc. This is the first time I remember so many conservatives forming so many rallies across the nation.

Nor do left wing protesters hold rallies that the police can literally stay home.

The report was not talking about protesters, either. It was talking about terrorists. Like people who bomb clinics and shoot doctors....

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HOLLYWOOD and countless professors warned us: Military vets are drooling trailer-trash who beat their wives and, at best, wind up as homeless street people -- at worst, as homicidal psychos deformed by war.

Now, thanks to our ever-vigilant Department of Homeland Security, the full extent of the danger has been revealed: Our so-called "war heroes" are rushing back to join right-wing-extremist hate groups to overthrow our government.

Let's not quibble about little things like evidence. The Obama administration just knows that vets are all racist, Jew-hating crazies waiting to explode. Thank God, DHS has a fearless leader, Janet-from-another-planet Napolitano, who isn't afraid to call white trash "white trash."

In this administration's published opinion, those who've served in our military are a menace to society and the state. And DHS's racist, bigoted implication is that the only danger comes from white, Christian vets (there's not a whisper about minority violence).

Thanks for bringing us together, Mr. President.

Racism is racism. The left-wing propaganda document published officially by your government under the title "Right-wing Extremism: Current Economic and Political Climate Fueling Resurgence in Radicalization and Recruitment" may be the shabbiest US Government publication of our time.

The report warns that "the return of military veterans facing significant challenges reintegrating into their communities could lead to the potential emergence of terrorist groups or lone wolf extremists . . . carrying out violent acts."

The document's evidence? None. It contains no hard data, no statistics. It's nothing but a racist, anti-military opinion column that might pass muster in The New York Times, but shouldn't be issued by our government.

The report adds that "rightwing extremists will attempt to recruit and radicalize returning veterans" who "possess combat skills." The point? Our hayseed, uneducated, unskilled, wacko vets aren't able to think for themselves and will be patsies for right-wing fanatics. Guess that's how things look from Harvard.

Then the report warns us that "a prominent civil-rights organization reported in 2006 that 'large numbers of potentially violent neo-Nazis, skinheads, and other white supremacists are now learning the art of warfare in the armed forces.' "

Which civil-rights organization? The Rev. Jeremiah Wright's? Why not name it? Why accept this bigoted hearsay? Where's the proof? Where's the data?

And where are those "large numbers of potentially violent neo-Nazis," anyway? Last time I checked, American Nazis had trouble mustering a couple dozen overweight losers in Halloween costumes.

Of course, Timothy McVeigh is invoked. Repeatedly. He's the sole example of a violent anti-government vet the report's drafters could produce. And there's no mention of the fact that, when he tried to join Special Forces, McVeigh promptly washed out and soon found his butt on the street. No, McVeigh will serve as eternal evidence that a homicidal nut lurks within every former soldier.

In just 8½ pages of text, the report manages to link our veterans to anti-Semitism, racism, economic failure and those dangerous citizens who think illegal immigration's a bad idea. Oh, and vets can't be trusted with firearms.

Your tax dollars at work.

But never fear: Obama's commissars at the Department of Homeland Security have already responded that DHS simultaneously issued a report on extremist danger from the left. It's title? "Leftwing Extremists Likely to Increase Use of Cyber Attacks over the Coming Decade."

Get the point? Left-wing extremists aren't violent (and right-wingers are too stupid to understand computers). Timothy McVeigh can be invoked, but let's not mention Bill Ayers, our president's good buddy (until he became inconvenient) or his murderous wife. Left-wing fanatics might make a little online mischief, but, hey -- kids will be kids.

Read both reports. You'll find that those on the political right (not just vets) are unable to cope with the stress of economic hardship, the real-estate crisis or job loss. Not a word about those issues driving leftists to extremes. They're just defending animal rights and the environment (honest -- read the reports).

Narco gangs aren't a threat, either. And the real and present danger from Islamist fanatics resident in our country goes unmentioned -- even though there's plenty of data on that threat. The only anti-government violence DHS fears comes from crackers with carbines.

And from chumps so dumb they joined the military.

We're the threat to our fellow citizens. You and me.

Our first minority president just took a giant step toward creating the most bigoted administration since that of arch-segregationist Woodrow Wilson.

Apologize to our veterans, Mr. President. And send Ms. Napolitano back to the minors.

Ralph Peters is so stupid he served in our military for almost 22 years.

“the slovenliness of our language makes it easier to have foolish thoughts.” George Orwell

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Based on what? Generally you do not see protests by conservatives. Finally enough felt the squeeze to their freedoms and finances

Nor do you see survivalists protesting.

You do see animal rights,welfare rights activists,etc. This is the first time I remember so many conservatives forming so many rallies across the nation.

Nor do left wing protesters hold rallies that the police can literally stay home.

kkk and aryan etc. rallies, and marches are right wing forms of protest. Massive rallies against abortion are right wing. Extremes examples are the bombing of abortions clinics. the guy that bombed the olympics in Atlanta was acting out an extreme form of right wing protest.

tim mcveigh blowing up the fed bldg in OKla was a form of protest. The whole militia movement was right wing. the List goes on an on.

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kkk and aryan etc. rallies, and marches are right wing forms of protest. Massive rallies against abortion are right wing. Extremes examples are the bombing of abortions clinics. the guy that bombed the olympics in Atlanta was acting out an extreme form of right wing protest.

tim mcveigh blowing up the fed bldg in OKla was a form of protest. The whole militia movement was right wing. the List goes on an on.

You rarely see abortion rallies any longer. Those that bomb abortion clinics are criminals. This wasn't concerning a form of protest rally.

They committed crimes not acts of protest by assembly.

KKK is not right wing. It is a small group of people that hate another simply because of the color of their skin

Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this.

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KKK is not right wing.

Here is the KKK party platform, I posted it earlier.....It seems eerily similar to another party's platform:

The recognition that America was founded as a Christian nation.

Repeal the NAFTA and GATT treaties.

Put America FIRST in all foreign matters

Stop all Foreign Aid Immediately

Cut off trade with countries that refuse to establish strict environmental laws.

Abolish ALL discriminatory affirmative action programs

Put American troops on our border to STOP the flood of illegal aliens

Abolish all anti-gun laws and encourage every adult to own a weapon

Actively promote love and appreciation of our unique European culture

We must recognize it as the bedrock of American liberty and self government.

Outlaw the purchase of American property and industry by foreign corporations and investors.

The land belongs to Americans and their posterity and should not be up for sale.

Drug testing for welfare recipients

Repeal the Federal Reserve Act.

Balance the budget

Rehabilitate our public school system.

A flat income tax should be introduced to allow for the funding of community, state and federal projects.

Abortion should be outlawed except to save the mother's life or in case of rape or incest.

We support the death penalty for those convicted of molestation and rape

We support a national law against the practice of homosexuality

We support the placing of all persons HIV positive into national hospitals

Restoring individual freedom to Christian America.

We support the voluntary repatriation of everyone not satisfied with living under White Christian rules of conduct back to the native lands of their people

Everyone who can work should work

We support a return to parental authority without government interference in the raising of our children

We respect the right of homeowners and that no one should ever be forced from their home for the non payment of taxes

We support state sovereignty resolutions

We advocate a strong defense department to safeguard American citizens

We support all U.S. veterans

Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence.

Einstein

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Interesting Lazarus. Some of there platform statements I would never have thought that they would be behind. But thanks for the post.

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Here is the KKK party platform, I posted it earlier.....It seems eerily similar to another party's platform:

I am sure as a pastor you are very familiar with those that use the bible in abusive ways.

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The recognition that America was founded as a Christian nation.

Many do believe that to be true,does that make them KKK??

1 Repeal the NAFTA and GATT treaties.

In your mind then the desire to see this is because the KKK promote this.

2 Put America FIRST in all foreign matters

The president and congress are voted in to do just that.

If I want Cuba to be considered first I will ask Castro,or the black caucus that had "Castro actually look into their eyes"

3.Stop all Foreign Aid Immediately

If the KKK promote this then you should discuss this with KKK

as I don't know any conservative that has demanded this or has this as part of their ideology

Cut off trade with countries that refuse to establish strict environmental laws.

Talk to your local tree huggers. On the other hand if the US has to trade with countries that do not abide by this,it is more than a little unbalanced.

4.Abolish ALL discriminatory affirmative action programs

If it is discriminatory,yes it needs to stop. Last I heard it was not supposed to be tolerated

5.Put American troops on our border to STOP the flood of illegal aliens.

I would like to see the flood of illegals into this country stopped. Whatever legally can be done

I am always surprised at the amount of those risking life and limb to get acroos the border to "this mean country"

6.Abolish all anti-gun laws and encourage every adult to own a weapon

Most conservatives I know do not run around encouraging all to own guns. Isn't it more about the government taking one right after another.

7.Actively promote love and appreciation of our unique European culture.

America is unique. But wait a minute. Aren't we supposed to make allowances for every culture that comes here.

Maybe we can get permission to keep a little corner to promote american culture in america.

8. We must recognize it as the bedrock of American liberty and self government.

What is the bedrock of american liberty?

I believe the constitution as the bedrock of liberty

9. Outlaw the purchase of American property and industry by foreign corporations and investors.

10.The land belongs to Americans and their posterity and should not be up for sale.

9 and 10 is not something that most conservatives have had a problem with until recently

It has been a concern in the tremendous amount of borrowing going on as we cannot hope to repay. And the chinese are not all that thrilled with anything american

11.Drug testing for welfare recipients

Gee,the last few jobs I have held I have had to take a drug test. I was not living on the charity of others but earning my way.Living off the handouts from others,you should be required. Most of us work hard for our money and really don't like having it go for drugs

12.Repeal the Federal Reserve Act.

Have not really heard much on this and don't have a clue

13.Balance the budget

Never happen. Whether it should or not,most I know would like responsible spending with the dollars they forcefully take

14 Rehabilitate our public school system.

As quickly as possible. I wasn't aware that would put me in the camp of the KKK

15. A flat income tax should be introduced to allow for the funding of community, state and federal projects.

Haven't a clue which is the best way to stop the stampede with our money. Most I know don't either.

16 Abortion should be outlawed except to save the mother's life or in case of rape or incest.

We have always had provisions for the mothers health. Other than that I personally am against it,but to outlaw it is highly unlikely. ne thing that should be stopped is infanticide which Obama supports. Animals at times will destroy their young if something is wrong with it. Animals don't know any better

17.We support the death penalty for those convicted of molestation and rape

Personally,I believe that or life in prison for level three offenders.The liklihood of change with them is slim to none

18.We support a national law against the practice of homosexuality.

I don't know anyone that believes or supports that

19 We support the placing of all persons HIV positive into national hospitals.

I don't know anyone that supports that

20.Restoring individual freedom to Christian America.

Not sure which individual freedoms you are referring to

21. We support the voluntary repatriation of everyone not satisfied with living under White Christian rules of conduct back to the native lands of their people.

Nope,not unless the people that sold them in the first place step forward and arrange passage for any that want it.

22.Everyone who can work should work

Isn't this a novel thought?? Most would never have thought of it. Got to give credit where credit is due.

23 We support a return to parental authority without government interference in the raising of our children.

Depends on what they are interferring with.

24.We respect the right of homeowners and that no one should ever be forced from their home for the non payment of taxes

Nope, taxes need to be paid for services. When they reach the confiscatory level then they need to stop

25.We support state sovereignty resolutions

It has been a long time since I have read anything on this. Would have to take a peek at it

26 We advocate a strong defense department to safeguard American citizens.

You mean someone actually believes in a strong defense of american citizens. Oh for the shame

27. We support all U.S. veterans.

Depends on what is meant by all.

Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this.

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I had some biting humor up here, Bonnie...but I decided to take it down...

I just don't want to exchange posts anymore...

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