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This picture is of a painting on the outside wall of a building within the ancient city of Pompeii. It dates from about 79 A.D. It appears that the men are working on something simular to a propeller. Do you think they used this for drawing well water? I believe the city had water technology like that of Rome but I always thought it was gravity fed.

<p><span style="color:#0000FF;"><span style="font-weight:bold;"><span style="font-style:italic;">"Do not use harmful words, but only helpful words, the kind that build up and provide what is needed, so that what you say will do good to those who hear you."</span></span> Eph 4:29</span><br><br><img src="http://banners.wunderground.com/weathersticker/gizmotimetemp_both/US/OR/Fairview.gif" alt="Fairview.gif"> Fairview Or</p>

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Artwork- Etruscan?

Isaiah 32:17 And the work of righteousness shall be peace; and the effect of righteousness quietness and assurance for ever.

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It looks like they are playing a game, water-pool? in a public fountain. Is that a penguin lurking on the wall in the upper right? haha.

dAb

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My DH and I toured Pompeii just a year or so before he died. That city had extremely sophisticated waterworks and sewer system. It's built on a hill, and the troughs for the fresh water and for the sewer were built specifically for each type of work--they had high (6" or so) walls so the contents would not spill over. In the roads, the chariots drove on elevated flat-topped rocks, so the rainwater or wastewater could run downhill between the rocks and no person need get his feet in the wet or in the mud.

But in some of the houses, the bodies were frozen in place -- or rather, melted into stone, in the middle of whatever act they were performing, just from the hot lava which came down from Vesuvius. It was an amazing place.

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Another interesting pic:

This girl is looking to the heavens trying to figure out why 6 doesn't go into 12 three times:

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Isaiah 32:17 And the work of righteousness shall be peace; and the effect of righteousness quietness and assurance for ever.

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Maybe she is using hexadecimal - base 16 - in which case the result is exactly right

That's gotta be it! Thanks, Bevin!

Isaiah 32:17 And the work of righteousness shall be peace; and the effect of righteousness quietness and assurance for ever.

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Maybe she is using hexadecimal - base 16 - in which case the result is exactly right

Huh? :duno

<p><span style="color:#0000FF;"><span style="font-weight:bold;"><span style="font-style:italic;">"Do not use harmful words, but only helpful words, the kind that build up and provide what is needed, so that what you say will do good to those who hear you."</span></span> Eph 4:29</span><br><br><img src="http://banners.wunderground.com/weathersticker/gizmotimetemp_both/US/OR/Fairview.gif" alt="Fairview.gif"> Fairview Or</p>

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Yeah, I'm right there with you, Amelia stars

Isaiah 32:17 And the work of righteousness shall be peace; and the effect of righteousness quietness and assurance for ever.

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For purely historical reasons, and perhaps due to our # of digits on our hands (that's why they are called digits :-)), we use "base ten". This means that, when we write "10", it is saying "one lot of ten, and zero lots of one" - and one*ten + zero*one = ten!

Imagine we had sixteen digits. Then we might have counted up to sixteen before we had to start grouping things into groups of (not ten but) sixteen.

Then the number "12" would have meant "one lot of sixteen plus two lots of one" and "one times sixteen plus two times one = eighteen".

eighteen divided by six is three.

In base sixteen, we would write this as 12 / 6 = 3

Base sixteen is used a lot in the computer industry, because it is a convenient shorter way of doing base two (binary) arithmetic.

We use the letters A-F to represent the extra "digits", so we count 0 1 2 3 ... 9 A B ... F 10 11 12 13... 19 1A 1B ... 1F

In computer languages, such as C, we need a way of writing these that makes in clear whether you are using base ten or base sixteen. We do this by putting a "0x" on the front to mean hexadecimal - eg

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if (18 == 0x12) printf("Ain't this fun!\n");

Now, for extra marks, tell me what the \n means! I'll give you a clue, it is ASCII character 0xa.

/Bevin

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you lost me at 12 = 18

<p><span style="color:#0000FF;"><span style="font-weight:bold;"><span style="font-style:italic;">"Do not use harmful words, but only helpful words, the kind that build up and provide what is needed, so that what you say will do good to those who hear you."</span></span> Eph 4:29</span><br><br><img src="http://banners.wunderground.com/weathersticker/gizmotimetemp_both/US/OR/Fairview.gif" alt="Fairview.gif"> Fairview Or</p>

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Consider weights. We can either write "16 ounces" or "1 pound". This doesn't mean 16 = 1, it means that the context the "16" appears in is important.

Consider dates. We write "9/11/2007" and an Australian thinks we are talking about the 9th of November, whereas a New Yorker thinks we are talking about the 11th of September. The exact same characters mean different dates because the two people understand them differently.

Similarly the characters "12" can mean the number twelve to one person, from a society where base 10 is the norm, and the number eighteen to another person from a society where base 16 is the norm.

Very confusing at first - but only because you haven't encountered it before.

Consider the old hymn where "it varies with the wind". The characters "wind" are identical for two different words - the movement of air, and the turning of a coil of spring in an old clock.

So the characters "12" can have many different meanings.

No wonder the poor girl is looking to heaven for guidance.

/Bevin

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I sympathize with her. At that age I felt the same way!

When asked my age I may give it in hexadecimal from now on. It sounds better to say I'm 41 (rather than 65). Is that correct? 4x16=64; 64+1=65. Two more months I'll be 42. :)

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O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!

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THANK you, Bevin, for that explanation!

I never learned ANYthing about hexadecimals [or whatever they're called]. This is fascinating.

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