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On Fox News today .... President Hugo Chavez blames those "Gringos" for him piling up troops at his border and for the invasion done by Columbia.

It was interesting that the reporter described the word "Gringo" as a hostile term towards Americans.

I should refer him to Club Adventist for an alternate view ...

Maybe Chavez is "endeared" to us.

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I have been in Cuba and Mexico hombre and the word "Gringo" refers to Americans.... Anyone have a problem with that?

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I have been in Cuba and Mexico hombre and the word "Gringo" refers to Americans.... Anyone have a problem with that?

pearly

Chavez may have been using "gringo" in way that was intended to be insulting to white Americans. It would be necessary to hear his tone and understand the context in which he used it.

It depends on how it is being used. Many times it is used of Caucasian Americans in the same way Americans might say "black" instead of "African-American." It is not always intended to be an insult or something negative.

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Gringo (feminine, gringa) is a term in the Spanish and Portuguese languages used in some countries of Latin America to refer to foreigners from different cultures, particularly English-speakers, and especially from the United States, although it can also refer to people from Canada, the United Kingdom, Australia, New Zealand, and other countries, including in some cases other countries of Latin America itself.

Some disagreement exists among English speakers regarding whether gringo is a derogatory term. The American Heritage Dictionary and other English dictionaries classify the term as "offensive slang", "usually disparaging" or "often disparaging".[4] The term gringo does lend itself to derogatory, paternalistic or endearing connotations sometimes, depending on the context and the intent of the user. However, many native speakers who use it do not do so pejoratively, as is also the case with some English speakers. The enunciation of the word can often give away whether it was meant in a derogatory manner or not. There is furthermore some variation in the connotation of this word from country to country within Latin America, and between Latin America and the Anglosphere.

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Gringo (feminine, gringa) is a term in the Spanish and Portuguese languages used in some countries of Latin America to refer to foreigners from different cultures, particularly English-speakers, and especially from the United States, although it can also refer to people from Canada, the United Kingdom, Australia, New Zealand, and other countries, including in some cases other countries of Latin America itself.

My wife and her family tell me that Mexicans would never refer to black Americans or Mexican-Americans as gringos. Maybe they do in other places but apparently it's not the custom to use it this way in in Tijuana or Mexicali. The word is evidently used to refer only to caucasians.

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... The term gringo does lend itself to derogatory, paternalistic or endearing connotations sometimes, depending on the context and the intent of the user. However, many native speakers who use it do not do so pejoratively, as is also the case with some English speakers. The enunciation of the word can often give away whether it was meant in a derogatory manner or not. There is furthermore some variation in the connotation of this word from country to country within Latin America, and between Latin America and the Anglosphere.

This is what I've found also in my experience with my Mexican family and friends.

John 3:16-17

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. [17] For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him.

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I have been in Cuba and Mexico hombre and the word "Gringo" refers to Americans.... Anyone have a problem with that?

pearly

Chavez may have been using "gringo" in way that was intended to be insulting to white Americans. It would be necessary to hear his tone and understand the context in which he used it.

It depends on how it is being used. Many times it is used of Caucasian Americans in the same way Americans might say "black" instead of "African-American." It is not always intended to be an insult or something negative.

I for sure would refer Gringo over a Caucasian American :)... and especially African American (if I were black). Black culture embrace the word "[theN-word]" proudly and uses it in day to day language... that is unless anyone other than black call them by that. Fussing over labels is stupid IMO. If someone disrespects you, then the best solution I found is to turn on the ignore button and prove them wrong by your actions, and not words.

I think Chavez does have a skewed views of US, but I think he separates it from American people in general. Chavez was a victim of a CIA coup at one point, so it's only natural for him to hold the views he does, and frankly I don't blame him. If China instigated revolution here, I don't think we would be liking this very much.

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.. Black culture embrace the word "[theN-word]" proudly and uses it in day to day language... that is unless anyone other than black call them by that.

I understand your point perfectly. Only they usually pronounce it as "niggah," which typically has a different connotation than "[theN-word]." "Niggah" is like "homie" or "homeboy." I've also heard them calling other blacks by the same name in a way that was obviously intended to be derogatory.

I spent about 20 years working with black and Latino youths, and I don't remember ever hearing them say "[theN-word]."

It's one thing to call your brother a name and something else entirely for "outsiders" to call him the same name.

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Fussing over labels is stupid IMO. If someone disrespects you, then the best solution I found is to turn on the ignore button and prove them wrong by your actions, and not words.

I feel the same way.

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I think Chavez does have a skewed views of US, but I think he separates it from American people in general. Chavez was a victim of a CIA coup at one point, so it's only natural for him to hold the views he does, and frankly I don't blame him. If China instigated revolution here, I don't think we would be liking this very much.

Yes, and who can forget the experience of Allende of Chile in Sept. of 1973 when a US-backed military coup overthrew him, and his place was taken by General Pinochet Ugarte. Those are the kinds of things that cause people like Chavez to have deep suspicions about American intentions.

John 3:16-17

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. [17] For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him.

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