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Had an email from someone in-the-mid-20 era, his email address started with Pastor something... when I asked him, he was a Church Youth Pastor for a year...

He took the 2 year course from Torres..

When can someone use the title Pastor.. when should they quit?

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I understand that there are websites that will licence a person as a pastor for a fee. To me this is not being a pastor but possibly abusing people. Can you be a pastor for a year and still keep the title? I think so. After all, many pastors take sabbaticals and retain their titles. So to teachers. Don't teachers have to renew their licenses regularly? Maybe pastors should too.

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I understand that there are websites that will licence a person as a pastor for a fee.

There is/was a place in San Diego that you could send in $100. and they would license you as a non-denominational pastor.

I know a woman who got her license that way and opened a wedding chapel in Texas. From what I understand she is still in business and doing quite well. Makes you wonder ………….

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It's pretty simple. You are a pastor if you pastor a group of people(church). If you don't, then you are not a pastor. I know, duh... You are what you are, and not what you were. Otherwise the term "former" is most proper.

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When can someone use the title Pastor.. when should they quit?

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When tha Lord calls him into His service. When the man can take a church and bring harmony and direction and closeness to tha Lorad. Why, it's seems obvious to me that only when the LORD calls you to His service, then you can call yousef 'pastor'....

And THE church needs a good callin'.....and a needs a good repentance....this church needs to fall on it's knees and pray for repentence, and needs to weep and cry btwxt the altar and the porch....Boy howdy, this church needs to cry and pray for the Lord comes with a sharp sword to smight between meat and bone and call sin by it's rightful name...... SIN!!!!

Shame be upon us for permitting SIN in our congregations...Only a good repentance, a good cryin' from a heart sorrowful from it's wrong path that it has chosen....

Anyways, what this church needs is a good Pastor........

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Brother Boregard, you have an illustrious namesake, who fired the opening shots of the War for Southern Independence and accepted the surrender of Fort Sumter.

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Brother Boregard, you have an illustrious namesake, who fired the opening shots of the War for Southern Independence and accepted the surrender of Fort Sumter.

Why, Brutha Koot, I appreciate your highly intelligent insight into my name. Very kind of you....

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Welcome brother .... but I can see already that you and I are startin off on the wrong foot ...

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When tha Lord calls him into His service. When the man can take a church and bring harmony and direction and closeness to tha Lorad.

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...when s/he's been pastorised?

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I would say that ordination is a point at which the church recognizes someone as a Pastor. The church indicates, by ordination, that they believe that this person has been called and has the giftedness to serve as a pastor. Ordination has no limitation in terms of time and geography. One is a Pastor for life and is a pastor for the world church.

Its legitimate for an ordained minister to be called pastor even if he is working in a non pastoral capacity. I would raise an eyebrow if someone insisted that they be called pastor when not working in that capacity. That insistence may give a hint s to why they are no longer pastoring!

IMO, someone who is unordained and only worked for a short time as a pastor should not continue to use the title if they are now working in some other field.

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Jesus took a dim view of titles period. Better to say "Meet Jim Jones pastor of the XYZ church"or "Jim Jones president of the XYZ conference". It used to be that they were all called Elders.

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Good reminder Melvin about WWJD.

By-the-way, it seems that one day they were all called Elders and then, in a blink, they were all called Pastors.

Was there a reason for the change?

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Jesus took a dim view of titles period. Better to say "Meet Jim Jones pastor of the XYZ church"or "Jim Jones president of the XYZ conference". It used to be that they were all called Elders.

mel

folks are not going to stop saying Pastor Smith anymore than they are going to stop saying Dr Smith or Senator Smith. Its not a bad thing that people are called pastor but its just that sometimes we misuse these designations, members and pastors alike.

Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence.

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Jesus was talking to his followers about the use of titles. Have you noticed how a group of "pastors" between themselves are on a first name basis?

It's a class distinction which is what Jesus was referring to.

Yes I agree it will continue to happen human nature being what it is.

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Pastors have their credentials renewed every five years if I remember correctly. You must realize that all denominations do not give every ordained minister the title of Pastor as does the Seventh-day Adventist Church. Only those who actually pastor a church receive that designation.

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