Dr. Shane Posted August 9, 2008 Share Posted August 9, 2008 I am going to go out on a limb here and predict that Edwards will definitely not be Obama's VP. Edwards: 'I Started To Believe That I Was Special' Quote: Edwards released a statement Friday afternoon saying, "In 2006, I made a serious error in judgment and conducted myself in a way that was disloyal to my family and to my core beliefs." He also said, "In the course of several campaigns, I started to believe that I was special and became increasingly egocentric and narcissistic. If you want to beat me up -- feel free. You cannot beat me up more than I have already beaten up myself." Also Friday, Edwards' wife released a statement on Daily Kos: "...Although John believes he should stand alone and take the consequences of his action now, when the door closes behind him, he has his family waiting for him." Although I find it admirable, I do not understand how the wives of all these politicians that get caught in adultery always remain so faithful. Alan Combs made the remark once that his wife told him that if he were to ever get caught in adultery not only wouldn't she stand with him in a press conference but she would be calling her own press conference. That sounds a little more like one would expect. Quote Pastoral Family Counselor... Find me at www.PostumCafe.com Author of Peculiar Christianity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carolaa Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 For sure. Sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil D Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 Although I find it admirable, I do not understand how the wives of all these politicians that get caught in adultery always remain so faithful. Alan Combs made the remark once that his wife told him that if he were to ever get caught in adultery not only wouldn't she stand with him in a press conference but she would be calling her own press conference. That sounds a little more like one would expect. Well, Shane, you don't have to worry over the wife of Senator Edwards standing over him during the news interview. She wasn't there...and when specificaly asked about it, Edwards specifically said that this interview wasn't about her, it was about his behavior. Interestingly enough, the interview was a full confession of his indescression, and when he ran for president, as I understood it, she was already told about it as were other members of the family. Quote Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be governed no better than we deserve. George Bernard Shaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amelia Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 Will McCain's past adultry keep anyone from voting for him? Seems that since it happened prior to his political asperations it is all water under the bridge. So, is it worse when adultery is conducted during a political career, or not? At what point do we start thinking it's a bad thing and let it affect our vote? Quote <p><span style="color:#0000FF;"><span style="font-weight:bold;"><span style="font-style:italic;">"Do not use harmful words, but only helpful words, the kind that build up and provide what is needed, so that what you say will do good to those who hear you."</span></span> Eph 4:29</span><br><br><img src="http://banners.wunderground.com/weathersticker/gizmotimetemp_both/US/OR/Fairview.gif" alt="Fairview.gif"> Fairview Or</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators John317 Posted August 10, 2008 Moderators Share Posted August 10, 2008 Did McCain ever lie about it and tell the American people "I never had sex with that woman," or say repeatedly, "I don't know what you're talking about. It's all a lie,"? If he did that, I would not vote for him. On the other hand, do we want a man who says, "Yeah I did it and I loved it and I'm going to do it again. In fact, I have an appointment right now. Good night." Quote John 3:16-17 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. [17] For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planey Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 I do not understand how the wives of all these politicians that get caught in adultery always remain so faithful. I'm not sure, but it is possible that the wife may genuinely love her husband and is more than willing to make the effort to save the marriage. Wotcha think? Graeme Quote Graeme____________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amelia Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 Did McCain ever lie about it and tell the American people "I never had sex with that woman," or say repeatedly, "I don't know what you're talking about. It's all a lie,"? If he did that, I would not vote for him. On the other hand, do we want a man who says, "Yeah I did it and I loved it and I'm going to do it again. In fact, I have an appointment right now. Good night." I never said anything about lying, just the adultery. Would you vote for someone who has commited adultery whether or not he/she lied about it, never mentioned it or brought it out into the open? Quote <p><span style="color:#0000FF;"><span style="font-weight:bold;"><span style="font-style:italic;">"Do not use harmful words, but only helpful words, the kind that build up and provide what is needed, so that what you say will do good to those who hear you."</span></span> Eph 4:29</span><br><br><img src="http://banners.wunderground.com/weathersticker/gizmotimetemp_both/US/OR/Fairview.gif" alt="Fairview.gif"> Fairview Or</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kountzer Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 Sen. Edwards wasn't going to be the VP choice before the scandal broke out. Now it is a moot point. Quote I prayed for twenty years but received no answer until I prayed with my legs. Frederick Douglass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil D Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 Sen. Edwards wasn't going to be the VP choice before the scandal broke out. Now it is a moot point. I thought that there was some talk about it earlier...but ya, it's pretty much mot now.. Still, I can see where he might be reconsidered.... but that southern bible belt of the US will just not allow any known unrighteous man into office... [southern dialect mode-on] Why we would be playin' into the hands of the devil hisownself!Woe! Woe! be unto us for lettin' that adulteratin' womanizing skirt chasin' and foolish man into office...[dialect mode-off] Quote Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be governed no better than we deserve. George Bernard Shaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kountzer Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 That's funny. Not just in the South. The charecter assasinating national press are on Edwards like sharks on bloody seals. He'll be lucky if he can manage enough damaage control to keep his senate seat when election time comes around for him. DB Quote I prayed for twenty years but received no answer until I prayed with my legs. Frederick Douglass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Shane Posted August 10, 2008 Author Share Posted August 10, 2008 Will McCain's past adultry keep anyone from voting for him? Seems that since it happened prior to his political asperations it is all water under the bridge. So, is it worse when adultery is conducted during a political career, or not? At what point do we start thinking it's a bad thing and let it affect our vote? Very good question! One of the very attractive things about Obama is that he is married to his first wife and shows love and dedication for his family. Obama sets one day each week aside to spend with his family in which he doesn't do any politics or media interviews. To me, that speaks volumes about him. Of course news could always break that he has had or is having an affair. I think it comes down to the issue of repentance. The voter that holds to high moral standards probably values forgiveness. Yet, most people are not willing to extend forgiveness until they have seen repentance. If they are convinced that a candidate like McCain or Edwards are truly repentant, they may well go ahead and vote for them. The further in the past the affair has been, the easier it is to judge if there has been true repentance. Quote Pastoral Family Counselor... Find me at www.PostumCafe.com Author of Peculiar Christianity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Shane Posted August 10, 2008 Author Share Posted August 10, 2008 Quote: He'll be lucky if he can manage enough damaage control to keep his senate seat when election time comes around for him. Edwards is no longer a senator. He only served one term. His term was up when he ran as VP with Kerry. He choose not to seek a second term. He was down in the polls in his state and probably wouldn't have won re-election. He failed to deliver his state for Kerry in their presidential bid. He was probably hoping for a position in Obama's cabinet but now that is unlikely. Quote Pastoral Family Counselor... Find me at www.PostumCafe.com Author of Peculiar Christianity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kountzer Posted August 11, 2008 Share Posted August 11, 2008 Oh well... Quote I prayed for twenty years but received no answer until I prayed with my legs. Frederick Douglass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kountzer Posted August 11, 2008 Share Posted August 11, 2008 My thing is issues and topics like politics, race matters, etc., are not top of the line issues for me. As a result I am not as up to date in my knowledge of them. I live and have lived the racial stuff. but politics? Besides all that, there are numerous chat rooms and forums where I can discuss secular issues like race and politics. Quote I prayed for twenty years but received no answer until I prayed with my legs. Frederick Douglass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Shane Posted August 11, 2008 Author Share Posted August 11, 2008 There are a lot of secular sites where any of us can discuss politics. What is unique about this Adventist Forum is that we can discuss the subject with other Adventists. That is something I value. Quote Pastoral Family Counselor... Find me at www.PostumCafe.com Author of Peculiar Christianity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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