Dr. Shane Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 CoAspen has wondered if we discuss women issues more than men issues. I can only speak for myself. I often make posts after either reading an article in a magazine, on the Internet or hearing something in the news. So if more articles and news stories are about women, more of my posts would also be about women issues. I also tend to start most of my threads dealing with men's issues in the men's forum. If one were to check it out they would find I am one of the heaviest contributers there. I wish we had more men contributing there. I did a search and found CoAspen has never posted in the men's forum. However CoAspen may be a woman, I don't know but that would explain why s/he has never posted in the men's forum. If you are a man and a paying member you can join our men's forum which is in the "Hanging Out" section simply by requesting an Administrator like Gail or Stan to add you. I would like to see more men there discussing issues that affect us as men. Quote Pastoral Family Counselor... Find me at www.PostumCafe.com Author of Peculiar Christianity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amelia Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 or Amelia? Methinks you have something against me. Well lets face it, it's still a mans world and the male perspective will continue to try and keep women down and in the wrong. Quote <p><span style="color:#0000FF;"><span style="font-weight:bold;"><span style="font-style:italic;">"Do not use harmful words, but only helpful words, the kind that build up and provide what is needed, so that what you say will do good to those who hear you."</span></span> Eph 4:29</span><br><br><img src="http://banners.wunderground.com/weathersticker/gizmotimetemp_both/US/OR/Fairview.gif" alt="Fairview.gif"> Fairview Or</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Shane Posted January 6, 2005 Author Share Posted January 6, 2005 I like to compete in the arena of ideas and have nothing against anyone personally. I enjoy a lot of the posts that Sister Amelia posts and suspect she doesn't have access to the men's forum. Quote Pastoral Family Counselor... Find me at www.PostumCafe.com Author of Peculiar Christianity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amelia Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 I am an administrator.....I HAVE THE POWER!!!!!!!!!! ROFL Quote <p><span style="color:#0000FF;"><span style="font-weight:bold;"><span style="font-style:italic;">"Do not use harmful words, but only helpful words, the kind that build up and provide what is needed, so that what you say will do good to those who hear you."</span></span> Eph 4:29</span><br><br><img src="http://banners.wunderground.com/weathersticker/gizmotimetemp_both/US/OR/Fairview.gif" alt="Fairview.gif"> Fairview Or</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fran Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 Shane; Are you saying females are not allowed in the men's forum? Where is the ladies room, please? You can't go there right? I would suggest that only a few go there because men are more interested in women’s issues being discussed. They don't think they have issues. I know because I live in a house full of them! They never do wrong, and never fail to have perfect hindsight! Problems? Never! Women are the ones with problems! However, when we ladies have 20/20 hindsight, we just don't remember it right (??), and are told to be quiet because they don't want to hear it. Why is it OK to discuss women’s issues in Townhall, but you post men’s issues in a private forum? That doesn't sound fair to me. Maybe you should post some stats on the male species in Townhall???? My opinion: The study is skewed! Satan has used sexuality to lead many astray, male and female, single and married. Satan leads couples to divorce. Satan can not stand the family. Satan loves nothing more than to destroy what God has joined together. There is no marriage that is a rose garden! If there are a few, it is because they haven't been married long enough to see each others faults. Hey, anybody out there with a perfect marriage? Raise you hand and tell us all about it. The only thing that can make a marriage perfect is Christ. Virginity on the side of either male or female has nothing to do with a happy marriage! People married for 20 - 30 - 40 - 50 - 60 - 70 years may not have had one truly happy year. It depends on their level of faith, love, forgiveness and acceptance of each other and Jesus Christ. Just my opinion. Quote The greatest want of the world is the want of men who will not be bought or sold, men who in their inmost souls are true & honest, men who do not fear to call sin by its right name, men whose conscience is as true to duty..., men who will stand for the right though the heavens fall.{Ed 57.3} Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amelia Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 Hey Fran, there is a ladies room. Do you want in? Quote <p><span style="color:#0000FF;"><span style="font-weight:bold;"><span style="font-style:italic;">"Do not use harmful words, but only helpful words, the kind that build up and provide what is needed, so that what you say will do good to those who hear you."</span></span> Eph 4:29</span><br><br><img src="http://banners.wunderground.com/weathersticker/gizmotimetemp_both/US/OR/Fairview.gif" alt="Fairview.gif"> Fairview Or</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil D Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 Quote: Are you saying females are not allowed in the men's forum? Where is the ladies room, please? You can't go there right? Fran- There is a ladies room and it is open for women only. From what I have heard, it can get pretty lively in thier at times. Quote: Why is it OK to discuss women’s issues in Townhall, but you post men’s issues in a private forum? That doesn't sound fair to me. Now now...C/A is not being sexist nor is it attempting to discriminate. But it does help the guys figure out thier own women...not to say that a woman is figure-er-out-able. and not to say that the ladies here don't have a figure. Quote: Maybe you should post some stats on the male species in Townhall???? Been there and done that...Perhaps you should post some of those stats that women are interested on what male should be thinking about... That could lead to some interesting conversations....some rather lively ones too, I suspect.....maybe heated even... Quote: Hey, anybody out there with a perfect marriage? Raise you hand and tell us all about it. I do. It comes complete with love and relationships, with a hefty dose of arguements, teasing, backhanded comments, emotional baggage sprinkled with lots of prayer, kindness, reassurance, love and commitment. Of course, if this type of marrage doesn't appeal to you, then I suspect that you have a problem and that your goals are not set in reality. Quote: Just my opinion. And you are entitled to it. Just let us have one as well.....even if it doesn't agree with yours.... Quote Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be governed no better than we deserve. George Bernard Shaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Bravus Posted January 6, 2005 Moderators Share Posted January 6, 2005 Just a few comments on Fran's rant too. First, I feel your pain, and I agree about the lofty pontifications of men on issues that largely effect women. I'd like to point out that males are a different sex, not a different species. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> There is, as has been pointed out, a women's private forum and a men's one, and I do think that's healthy - there are issues that are just easier to discuss in private, and I'd hate to see those issues closed off altogether on CA. I think I'd put up my hand in the 'perfect marriage' column too, but of course, perfect doesn't mean simple or easy, it means we've both chosen, and keep choosing, to work on it and make it perfect. We're blessed enough that our non-Christian friends tell us how much they enjoy being with our family and see it as something they'd like to have. So Fran, I can understand your anger, but I'm not sure making it into a 'battle of the sexes' is going to improve the climate... The issue of showing some humility, as men, in what we say is an important one, and I hope that we guys will take it to heart. I noted this trend very early on in an abortion thread - why are we only hearing male voices here? I don't think guys should or can be *prevented* from talking about issues that effect women, but they should do so with courtesy and humility. Quote Truth is important Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Gail Posted January 6, 2005 Administrators Share Posted January 6, 2005 Hey, we've even argued (discussed) the differences between how men and women think... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> The female admins don't enter the men's private forum (and the males don't enter the female one), but the forum titles and the last post author and title are visible on our forum index as if they are just another forum. Just from looking at that, I can tell you that the men's private forum does not have the traffic that the women's one does The venues are there- feel free to use them! And, as was mentioned, entrance to any private forum is simple- just approach any administrator and upon their discretion access is given Quote Isaiah 32:17 And the work of righteousness shall be peace; and the effect of righteousness quietness and assurance for ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Shane Posted January 7, 2005 Author Share Posted January 7, 2005 I cannot judge other men since I am just me. I do believe that with God's help a man can understand his wife and has been commanded to do so. A man is to be the spiritual leader in the home and too many times we can fail to do that even with our own wives. How many men study the Bible daily (or even weekly) with their wives? Yes, we discuss these issues in the men's forum although it doesn't get a lot of traffic. Quote Pastoral Family Counselor... Find me at www.PostumCafe.com Author of Peculiar Christianity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottie Posted January 8, 2005 Share Posted January 8, 2005 Froim what I have read in the posts, people are saying that Shane posted a study with which he has an agreeing opinion. And, that one study does not a fact make. I have heard of several studies on the same topic, and all that I have heard of support the same idea, that abstinence before marriage improves the probability of the marriage lasting. Y'all, don't get all over Shane. . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony! Posted January 8, 2005 Share Posted January 8, 2005 Amelia: Quote: Well lets face it, it's still a mans world and the male perspective will continue to try and keep women down and in the wrong. Fran: Quote: I would suggest that only a few go there because men are more interested in women’s issues being discussed. They don't think they have issues. I know because I live in a house full of them! They never do wrong, and never fail to have perfect hindsight! Problems? Never! Women are the ones with problems! However, when we ladies have 20/20 hindsight, we just don't remember it right (??), and are told to be quiet because they don't want to hear it. Amelia and Fran, I am sorry for problems that you have had and poor experiences with men. However, I am personally offended with your above sexist generalizations. This can only serve to further alienate significant males in your life - not just spouses, but fathers, brothers and sons! I have tried, by the grace of God, Alcoholics Anonymous and my antidepressant medication to be a self-aware and self-actuated male who is not afraid to admit my faults and issues (and believe me, I do, often - and not to make excuses) to my wife and my son. And believe me, this has not been easy as confused as I was being raised by a feminist mother and a mysogynistic father. Women's groups, women's ministries and women's retreats exist abundantly and I have no gripe with that - in fact I openly support and encourage it in my community, church and home. So then, if you want liberty, you must be willing to extend it to others - men's ministries - without jealousy or suspicion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators LynnDel Posted January 8, 2005 Moderators Share Posted January 8, 2005 Gail said: Quote: I can tell you that the men's private forum does not have the traffic that the women's one does It seems that a higher percentage of women can talk about touch-feely and downright embarrassing topics, whereas many men flee when they scent "touch-feely" and cannot discuss any kind of private medical problems or - to take one example - difficulties with currently popular underwear. And why should they? They have no problems with either, or if they did, certainly will not admit it. I've read that women like to explore feelings in relation to experiences, while men like to relate experiences without delving into feelings. Women like to talk in order to get feedback and confirmation. Men like to enthrall (generally speaking). So why would a man want to go to a small private men's group where there are so few to be enthralled? Quote LD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 8, 2005 Share Posted January 8, 2005 Yeah... Here I was watching "Who wants to be a millionaire" and the lady contestant mentioned about meeting Richard Gere backstage at a live play in New York... and said he was in his underwear...and Meredith asked... was it boxers or briefs...sheesh... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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