Moderators Bravus Posted February 5, 2009 Moderators Share Posted February 5, 2009 ...any threads with Obama's name in the title that are started by Redwood. Unless the thread title is something like "I was wrong about Obama all along!" (incidentally, I only read the "I screwed up" thread because I thought it was Shane making that confession, since he started the thread. ) Quote Truth is important Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Shane Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 Often times one's criticism of another tells us more about the one criticizing than the one being criticized. I try to roll with the punches and enjoy a healthy debate. Redwood is Redwood. I expect him to be who he is. The same with Bravus, with Neil, Tom, Coaspen and the others. Once in a while someone surprises me and that is kind of cool. Quote Pastoral Family Counselor... Find me at www.PostumCafe.com Author of Peculiar Christianity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Shane Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 (incidentally, I only read the "I screwed up" thread because I thought it was Shane making that confession, since he started the thread.) I hope you didn't think I was going to say voting for Obama was a mistake. Quote Pastoral Family Counselor... Find me at www.PostumCafe.com Author of Peculiar Christianity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Bravus Posted February 5, 2009 Author Moderators Share Posted February 5, 2009 dg, fair point. I honestly don't think there was anywhere near the kind of barrage - a couple of new threads a day - of criticism of Bush early in his presidency that we're seeing here, but if there was, I would have been completely happy for anyone who chose to tune out those threads. And to publicly say that they had (which I acknowledge is a slightly different thing). For me it's not even so much that I disagree with the content of the threads, as just a signal-to-noise thing. So many of the things my friend Woodie (who I will very happily continue to interact with on all other topics) posts about Obama are just contentless smears, or things he doesn't even believe but dredges up somewhere, and so on. I just don't need it, not because I support Obama, but because I support thoughtful, well-founded discourse. If people have well thought out, principled criticisms of Obama's actual actions and policy positions, I'm very ready to read. But little fiddlypiddly 'gotcha' stories about inconsequential matters... nah, don't have the time or energy for it. Quote Truth is important Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woody Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 1) Be loving. Discuss issues with Christ-like love for your brothers and sisters here. 2) Advocate strongly for your position but with love for others. 4. Don't be negative towards other people... they are Christ's children. Sinners just like ourselves. 5. When disagreeing with other members, focus on the topic and ideas being discussed and not other members. Avoid addressing them directly 7. If you ever feel justified for being combative toward another member... see guideline #1 and DON'T." 2. If anyone replies to a specific post; please reply to the topic of that post and NOT to the poster. Replying to the poster can be seen (and often is) a personal attack. 3. If anyone makes a personal attack on a poster than that person will be asked to ammend their post or if it's too late to ammend, then a public apology will be made Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Bravus Posted February 5, 2009 Author Moderators Share Posted February 5, 2009 I assume you're posting those because you believe this thread contravenes them? I don't believe it does, though finally that will be a call for the moderator to make. I did not attack you in any way. I simply announced that I choose not to read certain kinds of posts. And later, when asked, explained why. I did not suggest that you ought not to make those posts, or to be allowed to, or say that those posts were wrong or bad in any way. I simply said that they were not something I want to read. Surely of the few freedoms left to me, the freedom to choose what I read and what I don't is one that remains? Quote Truth is important Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 If only we could put subjects on ignore.... Quote If you receive benefit to being here please help out with expenses. https://www.paypal.me/clubadventist Administrator of a few websites like https://adventistdating.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liz Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 Bravus, of course, you have the freedom to read or not read anything you choose. But why announce it? Why not just simply do it? Quote For what will a man be profited, if he gains the whole world, and forfeits his soul? Mat. 16:26Please, support the JDRF and help find a cure for Type 1 Diabetes. Please, support the March of Dimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Bravus Posted February 5, 2009 Author Moderators Share Posted February 5, 2009 You're right, they are two different things. I thought about it, and decided that I thought there was value in making a statement that I felt there was too much of it going on, and giving my reasons for opting out. I'm actually happy to delete this entire thread if people feel I should, but that's kinda moot now people have read it and the point has been made. The forum belongs to all of us. Consider it to be like a restaurant or (veggie!) coffee shop or something. If someone is talking loud and long in a way that annoys other patrons, the other patrons have the choice to simply stop coming. But that does not signal the loud talker, and it also does not show others who are annoyed by the same thing that they're not alone. I suspect I'm not the only one who finds the barrage of new and slight negative stories about the President annoying, and I thought saying so might have some small weight. As it is it seems it's just antagonised Redwood, which I guess was a foreseeable consequence but was not the effect I intended. On the whole I don't think my one post on the topic is too offensive, given the dozens of anti-Obama posts... to continue the analogy, maybe I harrumphed a little loudly on my way out of the coffeeshop, but probably disrupted others' conversations less than the loud talker. Bravus (still second-guessing his decisions) Quote Truth is important Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liz Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 Bravus, I love the way you speak....er...rather...write. You "harrumphed"--that just cracked me up. Quote For what will a man be profited, if he gains the whole world, and forfeits his soul? Mat. 16:26Please, support the JDRF and help find a cure for Type 1 Diabetes. Please, support the March of Dimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woody Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 I assume you're posting those because you believe this thread contravenes them? I don't believe it does, though finally that will be a call for the moderator to make. I did not attack you in any way. I simply announced that I choose not to read certain kinds of posts. And later, when asked, explained why. I did not suggest that you ought not to make those posts, or to be allowed to, or say that those posts were wrong or bad in any way. I simply said that they were not something I want to read. Surely of the few freedoms left to me, the freedom to choose what I read and what I don't is one that remains? You are THE MAN. You have many rights here. Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Tom Wetmore Posted February 5, 2009 Administrators Share Posted February 5, 2009 No need to second-guess your decision. I support you on that and do believe I may just join you in it. What some reasonable responders here may seem more put out about is that such threads will now have fewer rational readers and commentators to reign in the absurdity and to clear up the confusion for the good of all. Quote "Absurdity reigns and confusion makes it look good." "Sinless perfection is such a shallow goal." "I love God only as much as the person I love the least." *Forgiveness is always good news. And that is the gospel truth. (And finally, the ideas expressed above are solely my person views and not that of any organization with which I am associated.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Gail Posted February 5, 2009 Administrators Share Posted February 5, 2009 Bravus, I love the way you speak....er...rather...write. You "harrumphed"--that just cracked me up. He does LynnDel and us proud :) Quote Isaiah 32:17 And the work of righteousness shall be peace; and the effect of righteousness quietness and assurance for ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rudywoofs (Pam) Posted February 5, 2009 Members Share Posted February 5, 2009 He [bravus] does LynnDel and us proud Why does Bravus do *LynnDel* proud? (just wondering) Quote Pam Meddle Not In the Affairs of Dragons; for You Are Crunchy and Taste Good with Ketchup. If we all sang the same note in the choir, there'd never be any harmony. Funny, isn't it, how we accept Grace for ourselves and demand justice for others? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Gail Posted February 5, 2009 Administrators Share Posted February 5, 2009 In a wordsmith sense. The other day I saw the word, "psychobabbly". I like those, too! Quote Isaiah 32:17 And the work of righteousness shall be peace; and the effect of righteousness quietness and assurance for ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Gail Posted February 5, 2009 Administrators Share Posted February 5, 2009 Also, "treacly" Quote Isaiah 32:17 And the work of righteousness shall be peace; and the effect of righteousness quietness and assurance for ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liz Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 Yes, I remember seeing "psychobabbly"; I really enjoyed that one too. Quote For what will a man be profited, if he gains the whole world, and forfeits his soul? Mat. 16:26Please, support the JDRF and help find a cure for Type 1 Diabetes. Please, support the March of Dimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woody Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 Quote: 7) Don't post on the public threads personal differences, arguments, rehashing of alleged grievances or disputes; or publicly complaining about posts or threads submitted in forums throughout the site. Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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