Guest Posted January 10, 2005 Share Posted January 10, 2005 How bad is it where you are? Jan 8...during the worship service main prayer...there were 4 cell phones that went off. One of the deacons turned around and asked me ..what was my count...lol Should we wait until 70 X 7 go off?? Ya know..we don't want to offend anyone and possibly have them never come back to church...so laptops, gameboys, X boxes, Mini TV's for the football playoffs...Walkmans...you name it..anything goes..or should I say anything stays..?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cricket Posted January 10, 2005 Share Posted January 10, 2005 I really think that if everyone in the congregation including the pastor stop everything they're doing and stare at the one with the cell phone ringing until they leave or the conversation stops, then the problem will quickly resolve itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 10, 2005 Share Posted January 10, 2005 Some of you will remember about my children's story..where I addresses noise in the sanctuary and brought up the cell phone...for the adults.. then I gave a bulletin from my Baptist preacher buddy to the pastor's wife. It has a notice about turining off phones. and then when I visited an Arizona SDA church...they have right on the 2 entry doors..2 small brass plaques to inform the people to turn off the cell phones.. HEY!!! How about doing BODY SEARCHES????? and use METAL DETECTORS and X-RAY MACHINES??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amelia Posted January 11, 2005 Share Posted January 11, 2005 I dont think its beyond the pale to have a sign asking for cell phones to be turned off. In fact I believe its incredibly rude for anyone to have one on during service; let alone actually answer it.( Yes, I have seen this happen and its usually a teen!) I see "no cell" signs all over in diverse areas. If you cant go 1 hour without that phone, you have a problem. 12 step for cell detatchment <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbsup.gif" alt="" /> Quote <p><span style="color:#0000FF;"><span style="font-weight:bold;"><span style="font-style:italic;">"Do not use harmful words, but only helpful words, the kind that build up and provide what is needed, so that what you say will do good to those who hear you."</span></span> Eph 4:29</span><br><br><img src="http://banners.wunderground.com/weathersticker/gizmotimetemp_both/US/OR/Fairview.gif" alt="Fairview.gif"> Fairview Or</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Bravus Posted January 11, 2005 Moderators Share Posted January 11, 2005 I know courtesy, consideration and restraint are the best solutions, but how much are those cell phone jammers they use in cinemas? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> Quote Truth is important Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amelia Posted January 11, 2005 Share Posted January 11, 2005 </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr /> but how much are those cell phone jammers they use in cinemas? <hr /></blockquote><font class="post"> I know of several baseball bats going unused. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbsup.gif" alt="" /> Quote <p><span style="color:#0000FF;"><span style="font-weight:bold;"><span style="font-style:italic;">"Do not use harmful words, but only helpful words, the kind that build up and provide what is needed, so that what you say will do good to those who hear you."</span></span> Eph 4:29</span><br><br><img src="http://banners.wunderground.com/weathersticker/gizmotimetemp_both/US/OR/Fairview.gif" alt="Fairview.gif"> Fairview Or</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 11, 2005 Share Posted January 11, 2005 Can someone find a cartoon on the internet that addresses this issue... ya know..a rather rough jimbob type?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_david Posted January 11, 2005 Share Posted January 11, 2005 i've seen the pastors cell phone ring during while he's talking (not preaching) but doing something i can't remember, not only did it go off but he picked it up. A lot of time it's not that people go in with the cell on on purpose, but they forget to turn it off. Churches i go to where at teh entrance to the sanctuary where there is a sign telling them to turn it off you rarely hear the phone. Lot's of people dont' read the bulletin so that doens't help a whole lot. teens will usually put it on silence. Quote //_david Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amelia Posted January 11, 2005 Share Posted January 11, 2005 []http://www.kernsharetheroad.org/HotTopics/NOCellPhone.jpg[/] []http://www.librarypreservation.org/building_capacity/images/CellphoneBlack.gif[/] []http://www.cellular.co.za/news_2003/nocellphonezoone.jpg[/] Quote <p><span style="color:#0000FF;"><span style="font-weight:bold;"><span style="font-style:italic;">"Do not use harmful words, but only helpful words, the kind that build up and provide what is needed, so that what you say will do good to those who hear you."</span></span> Eph 4:29</span><br><br><img src="http://banners.wunderground.com/weathersticker/gizmotimetemp_both/US/OR/Fairview.gif" alt="Fairview.gif"> Fairview Or</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amelia Posted January 11, 2005 Share Posted January 11, 2005 []http://aig.gospelcom.net/AfterEden/cartoons/ae8-19-2002.gif[/] Quote <p><span style="color:#0000FF;"><span style="font-weight:bold;"><span style="font-style:italic;">"Do not use harmful words, but only helpful words, the kind that build up and provide what is needed, so that what you say will do good to those who hear you."</span></span> Eph 4:29</span><br><br><img src="http://banners.wunderground.com/weathersticker/gizmotimetemp_both/US/OR/Fairview.gif" alt="Fairview.gif"> Fairview Or</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amelia Posted January 11, 2005 Share Posted January 11, 2005 []http://www.greysquirrel.net/pics/cell.jpg[/] Quote <p><span style="color:#0000FF;"><span style="font-weight:bold;"><span style="font-style:italic;">"Do not use harmful words, but only helpful words, the kind that build up and provide what is needed, so that what you say will do good to those who hear you."</span></span> Eph 4:29</span><br><br><img src="http://banners.wunderground.com/weathersticker/gizmotimetemp_both/US/OR/Fairview.gif" alt="Fairview.gif"> Fairview Or</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amelia Posted January 11, 2005 Share Posted January 11, 2005 []http://www.clubadventist.com/ubbthreads/attachments/151078-cellphonesinchurch2.jpg[/] Quote <p><span style="color:#0000FF;"><span style="font-weight:bold;"><span style="font-style:italic;">"Do not use harmful words, but only helpful words, the kind that build up and provide what is needed, so that what you say will do good to those who hear you."</span></span> Eph 4:29</span><br><br><img src="http://banners.wunderground.com/weathersticker/gizmotimetemp_both/US/OR/Fairview.gif" alt="Fairview.gif"> Fairview Or</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Bravus Posted January 11, 2005 Moderators Share Posted January 11, 2005 The 'Golden Retriever' delivers again! Quote Truth is important Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 11, 2005 Share Posted January 11, 2005 The back pew cartoon is a WINNER.. I already put the pic on my desktop and will print some for this sabbath. Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amelia Posted January 11, 2005 Share Posted January 11, 2005 I love squirrels so I just had to add the squirrel phone. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> Quote <p><span style="color:#0000FF;"><span style="font-weight:bold;"><span style="font-style:italic;">"Do not use harmful words, but only helpful words, the kind that build up and provide what is needed, so that what you say will do good to those who hear you."</span></span> Eph 4:29</span><br><br><img src="http://banners.wunderground.com/weathersticker/gizmotimetemp_both/US/OR/Fairview.gif" alt="Fairview.gif"> Fairview Or</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicodema Posted January 11, 2005 Share Posted January 11, 2005 These are GREAT! I've been an adamant opponent of cell phone "abuses" since they crossed the line from prestigious car mobiles into everyday lives of ordinary and boring people who really don't need them in the first place. Like everything else in the world, once they make that transition they became an imposition on the rest of civilization. Kind of like how spam and AOL killed the internet. At any rate, I'm all for having a very firm policy against them at worship service, having that policy explained one on one to each member and even having members sign individual waivers that they understand the purpose of the policy and that violation thereof is grounds for (temporary) confiscation (they can have it back when worship ends). Then there can be a cell phone idiots' room next door to the mothers' room. (But please don't impose these weenies on the poor moms, many of whom need the mothers' room to try to put a sleepyhead down for a nap, nurse an infant, or teach a toddler sanctuary manners.) Quote "After such knowledge, what forgiveness?" -- T.S. Eliot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 14, 2005 Share Posted January 14, 2005 I just got a reply from the publisher from the Pacific Union recorder and I sent him the cartoon of the zapped user in the pew. He had several suggestions to address the cell phone issue and mentioned about me writing a letter to the editor when reverence or worship service articles come up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 14, 2005 Share Posted January 14, 2005 By permission: Hmmm. Interesting idea for the Recorder. I don't know if it would fit one of Tom Mostert's columns or an ethics column. Probably neither, and it wouldn't be a News story. Maybe you should just address the subject of cell phones in church in a letter to the editor when you see an article about worship services or reverance in church -- or anything that you might tie it to. It is probably a subject that local church leadership should address. The problem is that people don't think about their cell phones when they enter a church. They (we) don't even remember that we have a cell phone until something reminds us of it -- my phone ringing, someone else's phone ringing, or a reminder from a worship leader. There are probably several options for solving the problem: 1. A sign at the entrance to the parking lot, or at a place most people pass when walking from the parking lot to the sanctuary. 2. A sign by the front door of the church. 3. A sign in the foyer of the church. 4. A sign in the front of the church -- perhaps a lighted sign that is only illuminated occasionally. 5. A verbal announcement from a worship leader to turn off or silence your cell phone. In one church I attend often, a worship leader humorously reminds worshippers to set their phones to "stun," meaning, I suppose, that if someone calls, the recipient will get an electric shock. 6. Put a notice in the bulletin, perhaps at the top of the worship page. I have read that in Europe and Asia it is common for restaurants, courthouses and other places of assembly to have machines that block all cell phone signals inside the building. This has not been adopted in the US because of fears of liability in case a physician, for example, missed an emergency call and someone died as a result. Then there is the question how to respond when a cell phone silently vibrates during the worship service. Personally, I have solved this by leaving my phone in the car -- when I think of it. Thanks for the idea. Gerry Chudleigh, publisher Pacific Union Recorder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 14, 2005 Share Posted January 14, 2005 The publisher loved the cartoon Amelia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amelia Posted January 15, 2005 Share Posted January 15, 2005 <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/coolhello.gif" alt="" /> Quote <p><span style="color:#0000FF;"><span style="font-weight:bold;"><span style="font-style:italic;">"Do not use harmful words, but only helpful words, the kind that build up and provide what is needed, so that what you say will do good to those who hear you."</span></span> Eph 4:29</span><br><br><img src="http://banners.wunderground.com/weathersticker/gizmotimetemp_both/US/OR/Fairview.gif" alt="Fairview.gif"> Fairview Or</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 15, 2005 Share Posted January 15, 2005 Quote: By permission: There are probably several options for solving the problem: 1. A sign at the entrance to the parking lot, or at a place most people pass when walking from the parking lot to the sanctuary. 2. A sign by the front door of the church. 3. A sign in the foyer of the church. 4. A sign in the front of the church -- perhaps a lighted sign that is only illuminated occasionally. 5. A verbal announcement from a worship leader to turn off or silence your cell phone. In one church I attend often, a worship leader humorously reminds worshippers to set their phones to "stun," meaning, I suppose, that if someone calls, the recipient will get an electric shock. 6. Put a notice in the bulletin, perhaps at the top of the worship page. Personally, I have solved this by leaving my phone in the car -- when I think of it. This is a good start...all should be implemented and at least 6 more... like..there should be church bouncers the size of (insert your favorite football team) front line..300# 6 ft 4" who spring to the attack at the first tone of a cell phone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle Posted January 15, 2005 Share Posted January 15, 2005 Quote: I have read that in Europe and Asia it is common for restaurants, courthouses and other places of assembly to have machines that block all cell phone signals inside the building Not in HK. There are way too many of them. According to The CIA World Fact Book , there are 6,855,125 people in HK SAR, and 7,241,400 mobile phones! Actually, though, usually people are pretty good about putting them on silent (though sometimes they still answer them in church, as the story of our pastor I told in another thread). If they forget and leave the ring on, they will grab the phone and run out of the building, and when they come back, the phone is on silent! I also LOVE the Back Pew cartoon--too funny! Michelle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 16, 2005 Share Posted January 16, 2005 Will it come to this????? http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=172750 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 16, 2005 Share Posted January 16, 2005 The last line of the article... "Those who bring cell phones to church are not committed to God," Escobedo said. "It's very distracting to be praying and suddenly hear birds chirping or techno music." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morning Glory Posted April 11, 2005 Share Posted April 11, 2005 I think that this is a great idea: for pastor to stop, and everyone in congregation look at the offender w/the ringing cell. Our pastor usually makes some kind of comment about it, interupting his sermon to do so, then carries on with the congregation in laughter. I agree, it is extremely rude to have cells on during church service...... and one day, this all backfired on me....during prayer!! I was so embarrassed I could have died. Never bring the thing to church, but did in this case as I went to pick up darling daughter, it was snowing, and wanted my hubby to have access. Well, forgot to turn it off when we got to the sanctuary......needless to say, I turned it off QUICK!!! Learned my lesson but fast. heehee Quote Kindness is the oil that takes the friction out of life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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