When a man kills that's who he is, when a woman does it...well

[Robert]

I guess you've read the news about 28-year old Melissa Huckaby? She has been charged with one count of murder with three special circumstances: "kidnapping, rape with a foreign object and lewd or lascivious conduct with a child under 14."

This is simply terrible, but what really gets be mad as heck is women are coming to her defense. It's the same old song and dance - she must have been abused, etc, etc, etc - it's not her fault.

I've noticed through my 50 years on earth that if a man does something terrible, well, he is a man - but if a woman does something equally terrible there's an excuse. This is infuriating to say the least.

The bottom line? It doesn't matter if you are a man or a woman if you don't have Christ there will no excuses before God's law in the judgment:

"For God does not show favoritism [female or male]. All who sin apart from the law will also perish apart from the law, and all who sin under the law will be judged by the law." [Romans 2:11,12 NIV]

[Liz]

First off what ever happened to "innocent until proven guilty"? This woman hasn't had her trial---yet.

As for people trying to make excuses for convicted criminals, it goes both ways. I heard that Charles Manson (I am not sure if that is spelled right) and Ted Bundy, got tons of fan mail, and there are lots of stories about convicted rapists and murderers getting marriage proposals while sitting behind bars.

Sick people will do sick things, and equally sick people will rally around them.

[Woody]

Liz ... in REALITY ... does a trial really mean that one is either innocent or guilty? It may legally. But I am speaking of REALITY.

Just because the trial said that OJ is innocent ... does not mean that he is innocent.

Get my point?

[GreatLakesGramma]

A trial DOES mean that all of the evidence becomes public knowledge, which at this point it isn't.

[Woody]

It shows the evidence which may or may not be complete and of which can be very wrongly interpreted.

[Liz]

Well in REALITY I would want a trial. In REALITY I would want all the evidence that proves my innocence or guilt laid out. And in REALITY I would want all who knows me to be shocked and surprised because they know I would never do whatever it was.

And since this is what *I* want shouldn't I give everyone else this same benefit?

Of course, there are some instances where only GOD knows who is responsible for the terrible deed. In those instances we do the best we can as flawed humans.

[Robert]

Okay...let's assume she is absolutely guilty, still women in general are at least initially excused. I don't hear this when it comes to men. I wonder why? Do we think that women are less sinful?

Look ladies, I'm not picking on you, it's just I'm sick of hearing this nonsense. It's the media saying it, especially liberal media.

Rob

[Liz]

Just thinking out loud here. Maybe it isn't that we think women are less sinful. But we do tend to think of them as nurturers (sp?) and more loving, and soft maybe; so when these horrific crimes are committed, the initial response is "oh no, it can't be the mother".

But when we think of men, we tend to think of warriours and solid, tough people. So when men do horrific things the response is "yep, 'cause he has tons of testosterone".

[Gail]

Makes me think of our Canadian husband and wife horror team of Paul Bernardo and Karla Homolka... She's out of jail now but I don't know if/when he will ever get out.

I'm sure that men get accused and convicted of these types of crimes mostly, but we are ALL liable to attacks by Satan. If the circumstances are right, I believe that some of this depravity is due to demonic cooperation.

[Amelia]

Often times more guilt is placed on a man due to his looks, lack of education, homeless/jobless and use of drugs. I think there have been all kinds of scary guilty women out there but they don't get profiled as much as men do.

[Bravus]

I agree with the general point that more excuses are made for women who commit crimes than for men who commit similar crimes. And that's wrong. But let's not lose sight of the facts: for violent and sexual crimes, it's something like 90%/10% male offenders to female. So since female offenders are rarer, we might look more closely at individual cases. Men have plenty of work to do getting their own sex's house in order.

[Dottie]

Interesting topic.

Tomorrow I report at 8:00 a.m. for jury duty at the local Criminal Justice Center. I may have something to add to this thread when i get done!

[GreatLakesGramma]

When it comes to a crime that is almost exclusively committed by one gender, looking for a reason why a perpetrator of the opposite gender could be so atypical is NOT the same as making an excuse for them. There is no excuse, no matter who you are or what your circumstances, for anyone to commit such a horrible crime. But since women almost never abduct, rape and murder children, it's natural that people would wonder what on earth has made her so aberrant. Especially when no one she knows can believe that she was capable of it.

[Robert]

You are tempted by that which you can do. She had the power over this youngster.

Like I said once, I would never be tempted to fight Mike Tyson. It's just not a temptation.

Rob

[Woody]

Quote:

I would never be tempted to fight Mike Tyson.

Hey ... I'm with you. I like having my ears.

[Robert]

Quote:

I would never be tempted to fight Mike Tyson.

Hey ... I'm with you. I like having my ears.

Mike was hungry...he thought he was biting an ear of corn.... teehe

[olger]

I agree with the general point that more excuses are made for women who commit crimes than for men who commit similar crimes. And that's wrong. But let's not lose sight of the facts: for violent and sexual crimes, it's something like 90%/10% male offenders to female. So since female offenders are rarer, we might look more closely at individual cases. Men have plenty of work to do getting their own sex's house in order.

Thet's true Bravage.

og out