Moderators John317 Posted June 3, 2009 Moderators Share Posted June 3, 2009 Chavez says "Comrade" Obama more left-wing June 3, 2009, 11:36 pm CARACAS (Reuters) - Venezuela's President Hugo Chavez said on Tuesday that he and Cuban ally Fidel Castro risk being more conservative than U.S. President Barack Obama as Washington prepares to take control of General Motors Corp. During one of Chavez's customary lectures on the "curse" of capitalism and the bonanzas of socialism, the Venezuelan leader made reference to GM's bankruptcy filing, which is expected to give the U.S. government a 60 percent stake in the 100-year-old former symbol of American might. "Hey, Obama has just nationalized nothing more and nothing less than General Motors. Comrade Obama! Fidel, careful or we are going to end up to his right," Chavez joked on a live television broadcast. During a decade in government, Chavez has nationalized most of Venezuela's key economic sectors, including multibillion dollar oil projects, often via joint ventures with the private sector that give the state a 60 percent controlling stake. Obama has vowed to quickly sell off General Motors once the auto giant is back on its feet, but the government will initially control the company after a $30 billion (18.1 billion pound) injection of taxpayer funds. Chavez, a vehement critic of the U.S. "empire," has toned down his rhetoric since Obama took office in January and the two men shook hands during a summit in Trinidad and Tobago in April. (Reporting by Enrique Andres Pretel; Writing by Frank Jack Daniel, Editing by Jackie Frank) Quote John 3:16-17 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. [17] For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members phkrause Posted June 3, 2009 Members Share Posted June 3, 2009 Very interesting article John. pk Quote phkrause By the decree enforcing the institution of the papacy in violation of the law of God, our nation will disconnect herself fully from righteousness. When Protestantism shall stretch her hand across the gulf to grasp the hand of the Roman power, when she shall reach over the abyss to clasp hands with spiritualism, when, under the influence of this threefold union, our country shall repudiate every principle of its Constitution as a Protestant and republican government, and shall make provision for the propagation of papal falsehoods and delusions, then we may know that the time has come for the marvelous working of Satan and that the end is near. {5T 451.1} Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil D Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 Very interesting article John. pk Oh, come on, PK....This is the same ol' rag that conservatives have been bringing out for the last 2 years...His lastest actions have far left liberals upset with him, the far right absolutely dispises him...and Foxnoise/druged report are bring out the same ol' retoric just so they can push the progressives and keep them off balance.... Surely, you can see that? Quote Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be governed no better than we deserve. George Bernard Shaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
there buster Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 Quote: the same ol' rag Hardly, it's Reuters. Quote “the slovenliness of our language makes it easier to have foolish thoughts.” George Orwell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members phkrause Posted June 4, 2009 Members Share Posted June 4, 2009 But its still interesting! I don't have to agree with everything written or do I, if I say its interesting? pk Quote phkrause By the decree enforcing the institution of the papacy in violation of the law of God, our nation will disconnect herself fully from righteousness. When Protestantism shall stretch her hand across the gulf to grasp the hand of the Roman power, when she shall reach over the abyss to clasp hands with spiritualism, when, under the influence of this threefold union, our country shall repudiate every principle of its Constitution as a Protestant and republican government, and shall make provision for the propagation of papal falsehoods and delusions, then we may know that the time has come for the marvelous working of Satan and that the end is near. {5T 451.1} Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonnie Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 Quote: the same ol' rag Hardly, it's Reuters. Progressives in politics and religion as well is nothing new. It is not new and enlightened,it is becoming a fad to be known as a "progressive" with new ideas. It is old politics dressed up in a new suit. I think this goes as far back as Woodrow Wilson. Progressive adventism as with most religions,dress up old sin with the name of "progressive" Part of the "new progressive mindset" is to embrace terrorists. As with Castro,the delegation was so impressed with this ,gentle,personable,dictator because "he actually looked into their eyes". Progressive in politics are nothing new. It is making a re-emergence as something new and exciting. Quote Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this. Quotes by Susan Gottesman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members phkrause Posted June 4, 2009 Members Share Posted June 4, 2009 Thanks dgrimm for allowing me to think it was interesting, but yet not having to agree with it. You hear that Neil, dgrimm is saying its OK. :) haheho pk Quote phkrause By the decree enforcing the institution of the papacy in violation of the law of God, our nation will disconnect herself fully from righteousness. When Protestantism shall stretch her hand across the gulf to grasp the hand of the Roman power, when she shall reach over the abyss to clasp hands with spiritualism, when, under the influence of this threefold union, our country shall repudiate every principle of its Constitution as a Protestant and republican government, and shall make provision for the propagation of papal falsehoods and delusions, then we may know that the time has come for the marvelous working of Satan and that the end is near. {5T 451.1} Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carolaa Posted June 5, 2009 Share Posted June 5, 2009 Progressivism is nothing new, but this is definitely a new kind of progressivism. We are currently experiencing the fourth rise of progressivism in this country, and each of them has been unique in many ways. An interesting history: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressivism_in_the_United_States Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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