Administrators Tom Wetmore Posted July 25, 2009 Administrators Share Posted July 25, 2009 This is yet another bit of drivel that has been debunked by Snopes - http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/passport.asp and Fact Check - http://wire.factcheck.org/2009/06/05/more-birther-nonsense-obamas-1981-pakistan-trip/ . The premise behind this nonsense that Pakistan was on a US State Department "no travel" list in 1981 is simply not true. Americans were able to freely travel to Pakistan in 1981. Tom Quote "Absurdity reigns and confusion makes it look good." "Sinless perfection is such a shallow goal." "I love God only as much as the person I love the least." *Forgiveness is always good news. And that is the gospel truth. (And finally, the ideas expressed above are solely my person views and not that of any organization with which I am associated.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members phkrause Posted July 25, 2009 Members Share Posted July 25, 2009 Tom thanks for this link, I do remember saying on this forum, not sure which thread, that as far as I knew the problem of Obama's birth had been dealt with already. And besides if this were true the republican party wouldn't be letting go of this issue, period. They would be hounding this. And by the way I think I know a relative of my wife's that was a missionary to Pakistan around that time? pk Quote phkrause By the decree enforcing the institution of the papacy in violation of the law of God, our nation will disconnect herself fully from righteousness. When Protestantism shall stretch her hand across the gulf to grasp the hand of the Roman power, when she shall reach over the abyss to clasp hands with spiritualism, when, under the influence of this threefold union, our country shall repudiate every principle of its Constitution as a Protestant and republican government, and shall make provision for the propagation of papal falsehoods and delusions, then we may know that the time has come for the marvelous working of Satan and that the end is near. {5T 451.1} Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Key Guy Posted July 26, 2009 Author Share Posted July 26, 2009 From: http://politicalwire.com/archives/2009/0...tml?referrer=js Quote: July 24, 2009 McCain Lawyers Investigated Obama Citizenship As we asked earlier this week, if questions over President Obama's citizenship were valid, wouldn't they have come out during the presidential campaign? David Weigel talked with Trevor Potter and other lawyers for Sen. John McCain's presidential campaign who said that they did look into the Obama citizenship rumors and found them without merit. Said Potter: "To the extent that we could, we looked into the substantive side of these allegations. We never saw any evidence that then-Senator Obama had been born outside of the United States. We saw rumors, but nothing that could be sourced to evidence. There were no statements and no documents that suggested he was born somewhere else. On the other side, there was proof that he was born in Hawaii. There was a certificate issued by the state's Department of Health, and the responsible official in the state saying that he had personally seen the original certificate. There was a birth announcement in the Honolulu Advertiser, which would be very difficult to invent or plant 47 years in advance." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members phkrause Posted July 26, 2009 Members Share Posted July 26, 2009 Thanks for that timewarp. Seems like McCain already checked it out. pk Quote phkrause By the decree enforcing the institution of the papacy in violation of the law of God, our nation will disconnect herself fully from righteousness. When Protestantism shall stretch her hand across the gulf to grasp the hand of the Roman power, when she shall reach over the abyss to clasp hands with spiritualism, when, under the influence of this threefold union, our country shall repudiate every principle of its Constitution as a Protestant and republican government, and shall make provision for the propagation of papal falsehoods and delusions, then we may know that the time has come for the marvelous working of Satan and that the end is near. {5T 451.1} Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woody Posted July 26, 2009 Share Posted July 26, 2009 I think McCain was just being a gentleman and not wanting to cause trouble. Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Key Guy Posted July 26, 2009 Author Share Posted July 26, 2009 I think McCain was just being a gentleman and not wanting to cause trouble. Naw... You don't be 'a gentleman' about something as serious as a fraud for a prez. I'm inclined to reject your theory. The clincher for me at this time: It would be hard to fake a dated newspaper birth announcement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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