Dr. Shane Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 The Hope Channel is one of my favorites. Quote Pastoral Family Counselor... Find me at www.PostumCafe.com Author of Peculiar Christianity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonnie Posted November 10, 2009 Author Share Posted November 10, 2009 Quote: I know because Obama told me OK. Been smoking Hopium. There's a reason they call it dope. What comes first,the dope that uses the dope, or the dope. Is that the reason so many are bowing to the god of socialism? Quote Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this. Quotes by Susan Gottesman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 Originally Posted By: there buster OK. Been smoking Hopium. There's a reason they call it dope. What comes first,the dope that uses the dope, or the dope. Is that the reason so many are bowing to the god of socialism? I have often wondered how it could happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonnie Posted November 10, 2009 Author Share Posted November 10, 2009 I seriously doubt the abortion clause will be put back in. That is radical, right-wing Limbaugh talk. http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-r...ill-be-stripped Senior democrat is confident the stupak abortion amendment will be stripped. Senior Democrat is 'confident' that Stupak amendment will be stripped By Michael O'Brien - 11/09/09 11:50 AM ET A House Democratic leader said Monday she's “confident” controversial language on abortion will be stripped from a final healthcare bill. Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-Fla.), the Democrats’ chief deputy whip in the House, said that she and other pro-abortion rights lawmakers would work to strip the amendment included in the House health bill that bars federal funding from subsidizing abortions. “I am confident that when it comes back from the conference committee that that language won't be there,” Wasserman Schultz said during an appearance on MSNBC. “And I think we're all going to be working very hard, particularly the pro-choice members, to make sure that's the case.” The amendment, offered by Rep. Bart Stupak (D-Mich.), won the support of Republicans and dozens of centrist Democrats in the House, but revealed a deep divide in the Democratic caucus over abortion. Sixty-four Democrats voted for Stupak’s amendment, without which the House healthcare bill would not have won final passage in a 220-215 vote. Stupak’s language not only prohibits abortion coverage in the public insurance option included in the House bill. It would also prevent private plans from offering coverage for abortion services if they accept people who are receiving government subsidies. Allowing the vote represented a major concession by Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) to Stupak and other anti-abortion rights Democrats who had threatened to oppose the bill. But it came at the cost of angering liberals in the Democratic Caucus. Abortion-rights supporters called it a “de facto” abortion ban and mounted an intense but unsuccessful lobbying campaign against it. Rep. Diana DeGette (D-Colo.) said Monday she expected a meeting with President Barack Obama next week to press her case against the Stupak amendment. DeGette, the co-chairwoman of the Congressional Pro-Choice Caucus, circulated a letter with the signatures of 40 other House lawmakers vowing to vote against any conference report that still contains the amendment. The conference between the House and Senate bills after the upper chamber passes its bill will present an opportunity to strip the Stupak amendment, and liberal Democrats have vowed to work hard to get rid of that language during that stage of the legislation. “It was extremely painful for me to feel compelled to vote for a bill that contained that kind of restriction on a woman's ability to make her own reproductive choices,” Wasserman Schultz said. Republicans over the weekend signaled they’d seek similar language in the Senate bill, while several centrist Democrats are already wavering on the bill. It’s not clear how the abortion debate could impact a final vote in the House on the healthcare bill, but it could be difficult for many of the centrists who supported Stupak’s amendment to vote for a healthcare bill that did not include his language. In addition, the only Republican who voted for the legislation, Rep. Joseph Cao (La.), said the Stupak amendment cleared the way for him to support the legislation. But it’s also possible liberals could drop their support for the bill if the language is not changed. Quote Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this. Quotes by Susan Gottesman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Shane Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 Quote: Senior democrat is confident the stupak abortion amendment will be stripped That is what we call wishful thinking. If abortion is put back in it will kill the bill and we will have no health-care reform. Quote Pastoral Family Counselor... Find me at www.PostumCafe.com Author of Peculiar Christianity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonnie Posted November 10, 2009 Author Share Posted November 10, 2009 Quote: Senior democrat is confident the stupak abortion amendment will be stripped That is what we call wishful thinking. If abortion is put back in it will kill the bill and we will have no health-care reform. We do huh?? Maybe you and the Obama groupie's. But you missed the point of the article. In your somewhat typical lofty fashion you chose other words but you called me a liar. You were confident that this information came from listening to Rush.Completely escapes your lofty view of your opinion that you might be wrong. The woman is the one I heard yesterday when you called me a liar over something so unimportant.Had nothing to do with any talk show. The whole issue itself isn't that important but cracks and at times your arrogance in statements like the following is.... I listened to Rush today. Denying it is futile. You don't occupy a position high enough in my thinking that I would be really impressed and bother denying something this minor. I am not afraid of you so there would be absolutely no reason to lie. To care whether you know I listen to Rush is laughable. Quote Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this. Quotes by Susan Gottesman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Shane Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 I call no one a liar although I do lie down when I sleep at night on my Select Comfort bed - endorsed by Rush Limbaugh. Quote Pastoral Family Counselor... Find me at www.PostumCafe.com Author of Peculiar Christianity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-r...ill-be-stripped Senior democrat is confident the stupak abortion amendment will be stripped. Senior Democrat is 'confident' that Stupak amendment will be stripped By Michael O'Brien - 11/09/09 11:50 AM ET A House Democratic leader said Monday she's “confident” controversial language on abortion will be stripped from a final healthcare bill. Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-Fla.), the Democrats’ chief deputy whip in the House, said that she and other pro-abortion rights lawmakers would work to strip the amendment included in the House health bill that bars federal funding from subsidizing abortions. “I am confident that when it comes back from the conference committee that that language won't be there,” Wasserman Schultz said during an appearance on MSNBC. “And I think we're all going to be working very hard, particularly the pro-choice members, to make sure that's the case.” The amendment, offered by Rep. Bart Stupak (D-Mich.), won the support of Republicans and dozens of centrist Democrats in the House, but revealed a deep divide in the Democratic caucus over abortion. Sixty-four Democrats voted for Stupak’s amendment, without which the House healthcare bill would not have won final passage in a 220-215 vote. Stupak’s language not only prohibits abortion coverage in the public insurance option included in the House bill. It would also prevent private plans from offering coverage for abortion services if they accept people who are receiving government subsidies. Allowing the vote represented a major concession by Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) to Stupak and other anti-abortion rights Democrats who had threatened to oppose the bill. But it came at the cost of angering liberals in the Democratic Caucus. Abortion-rights supporters called it a “de facto” abortion ban and mounted an intense but unsuccessful lobbying campaign against it. Rep. Diana DeGette (D-Colo.) said Monday she expected a meeting with President Barack Obama next week to press her case against the Stupak amendment. DeGette, the co-chairwoman of the Congressional Pro-Choice Caucus, circulated a letter with the signatures of 40 other House lawmakers vowing to vote against any conference report that still contains the amendment. The conference between the House and Senate bills after the upper chamber passes its bill will present an opportunity to strip the Stupak amendment, and liberal Democrats have vowed to work hard to get rid of that language during that stage of the legislation. “It was extremely painful for me to feel compelled to vote for a bill that contained that kind of restriction on a woman's ability to make her own reproductive choices,” Wasserman Schultz said. Republicans over the weekend signaled they’d seek similar language in the Senate bill, while several centrist Democrats are already wavering on the bill. It’s not clear how the abortion debate could impact a final vote in the House on the healthcare bill, but it could be difficult for many of the centrists who supported Stupak’s amendment to vote for a healthcare bill that did not include his language. In addition, the only Republican who voted for the legislation, Rep. Joseph Cao (La.), said the Stupak amendment cleared the way for him to support the legislation. But it’s also possible liberals could drop their support for the bill if the language is not changed. Simply amazing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonnie Posted November 11, 2009 Author Share Posted November 11, 2009 I don't think we will opt out of paying for abortions Abortion has been ruled a right and health care has been ruled a right. So how can a woman be denied her rights Quote Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this. Quotes by Susan Gottesman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Shane Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 They don't have the votes. Putting abortion in the bill will kill it. Quote Pastoral Family Counselor... Find me at www.PostumCafe.com Author of Peculiar Christianity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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