bonnie Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 Apocalypse now for liberal talkers POLITICO 44 For the pundits on MSNBC and the liberal blogosphere, the prospect of a Scott Brown victory in the Massachusetts Senate race has provoked the kind of doomsday rhetoric not heard since a certain Texan was president. Liberal talker Ed Schultz recently told radio listeners that if he lived in Massachusetts he’d try to vote 10 times, claiming that he’d “cheat to keep these bastards out.” Conservatives howled that the MSNBC host was inciting voter fraud, so Schultz apologized on the air Monday — well, sort of. “I misspoke on Friday. I'm sorry, I'm sorry,” Schultz said. “I meant to say, if I could vote 20 times, that's what I'd do.” “Let me be very clear,” Schultz said a few minutes later. “I'm not advocating voter fraud, I'm just telling you what I would do. That's how bad I want Scott Brown to lose!” Atlantic senior editor Andrew Sullivan described the election on his blog as “a nihilist moment, built from a nihilist strategy in order to regain power ... to do nothing but wage war against enemies at home and abroad.” Sullivan, a longtime conservative who announced he was leaving “the right” last month, concluded Monday that “Democrats can stop hoping at this point” and predicted a double-digit victory for Brown. “What comes next will be a real test for [President Barack] Obama,” Sullivan continued. “I suspect serious health insurance reform is over for yet another generation.” Other pundits have had their own grand pronouncements on the possibility of Democrat Martha Coakley losing the seat once held by Ted Kennedy: “Good Morning America” host George Stephanopoulos —who once worked for someone dubbed the “Comeback Kid” — wrote on his blog Tuesday that a Brown victory “would certainly be the biggest political upset I have seen in my career.” PBS’s Judy Woodruff, quoting someone from the White House, described the situation on ABC’s “This Week” as “a tragedy of Greek proportions if Ted Kennedy's successor is the one ... who was responsible for the death of health care.” The imminent “death of health care” has been a constant theme. For Democrats — who’ll continue to control the White House, House, and Senate, with at worst 59 seats — there’s been a steady stream of doom and gloom when talking to the press. Rep. Barney Frank of Massachusetts told reporters Friday that a Brown victory would “kill the health bill,” and his House colleague New York Rep. Anthony Weiner expressed a similarly dire view on Tuesday’s “Morning Joe.” "I think you can make a pretty good argument that health care might be dead,” Weiner said. But while Weiner focused his criticism on what President Barack Obama could have been doing in states like Massachusetts before this weekend to promote his health care agenda, along with the repercussions of losing a seat in the Senate, MSNBC’s prime-time liberal hosts have been turning up the volume in attacks on the Republican candidate. Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0110/31671.html#ixzz0d75PLPd4 Quote Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this. Quotes by Susan Gottesman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonnie Posted January 20, 2010 Author Share Posted January 20, 2010 BONNIE WELL THIS is very intereting article that even some democrats are admitting the health care is dead dgrimm60 I hope so,but would not bet the farm yet. Even with a Brown win there is ways. I don't think they would care about the backlash if they could get it thru Quote Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this. Quotes by Susan Gottesman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Shane Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 I believe that God moved Obama into office. I have little doubt about that. Just as God corrected King Nebuchadnezzar, it now looks like He may be sending President Obama a little message. Quote Pastoral Family Counselor... Find me at www.PostumCafe.com Author of Peculiar Christianity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonnie Posted January 20, 2010 Author Share Posted January 20, 2010 I believe that God moved Obama into office. I have little doubt about that. Just as God corrected King Nebuchadnezzar, it now looks like He may be sending President Obama a little message. That would be nice if you are right. Obama can spend the next 7 years eating grass. Might humble him a bit Quote Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this. Quotes by Susan Gottesman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members phkrause Posted January 20, 2010 Members Share Posted January 20, 2010 Originally Posted By: Shane I believe that God moved Obama into office. I have little doubt about that. Just as God corrected King Nebuchadnezzar, it now looks like He may be sending President Obama a little message. That would be nice if you are right. Obama can spend the next 7 years eating grass. Might humble him a bit I find him to be a bit to humble! pk Quote phkrause Obstinacy is a barrier to all improvement. - ChL 60 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Shane Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 I think Obama has good intentions and has been doing what he thinks is right. This may give him pause to reconsider the will of the people. Quote Pastoral Family Counselor... Find me at www.PostumCafe.com Author of Peculiar Christianity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonnie Posted January 20, 2010 Author Share Posted January 20, 2010 Quote: That would be nice if you are right. Obama can spend the next 7 years eating grass. Might humble him a bit Quote: I find him to be a bit to humble! pk Anyone that uses I,Me,Mine as frequently as this man every time he gives an interview,or a appearance on TV or any quoted statement doesn't have a humility problem as far as I am concerned. Quote Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this. Quotes by Susan Gottesman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members abelisle Posted January 20, 2010 Members Share Posted January 20, 2010 This is my take on this. I think we have seen this coming for a long time now. This event is the cusp of the paradigm shift in American politics as to how the American voter sees partisan politics. People are fed up with partisan party politics. They are voting for candidates who understand their plight and will meet their needs. Scott Brown ran a smart campaign, identifying himself most strongly with the Independents and keeping a sharp focus on what he stood for. I personally may not agree with him but I respect him. The Republican party can learn a lot from him as to how he ran his campaign, especially in the arena of local politics. This is a good thing for Obama. It forces him to take on a more moderate partisan stance and it teaches the Democratic party that they need both stronger candidates and better run campaigns. Considering the fact that Brown didn't have a party machine backing him up, he did very well. The American people (in Mass. anyway) have just sent out a powerful message. Meet our needs first, worry about your party agenda later. Alex (there's a new day coming - just what will it bring?) Quote We are our worst enemy - sad but true. http://abelisle.blogspot.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonnie Posted January 20, 2010 Author Share Posted January 20, 2010 Quote: This is my take on this. I think we have seen this coming for a long time now. This event is the cusp of the paradigm shift in American politics as to how the American voter sees partisan politics. People are fed up with partisan party politics. I don't believe it was the partisan politics. It was the politics of one party. Quote: This is a good thing for Obama. It forces him to take on a more moderate partisan stance and it teaches the Democratic party that they need both stronger candidates and better run campaigns. Considering the fact that Brown didn't have a party machine backing him up, he did very well. Not to sure it will force Obama to do anything he doesn't want to do. The republicans at the hands of Newt Gingrich did force Clinton. Obama is a whole different breed. He is a socialist in everything that matters.He does firmly believe his ideology.I don't think he will stop at anything in trying to "reshape this country" Obama's words Quote: The American people (in Mass. anyway) have just sent out a powerful message. Meet our needs first, worry about your party agenda later. Obama is convinced he is meeting the needs of the people,they just don't know it yet.He knows what is best As he said about the health care,it will be unpopular till it was made into law. As far as being bi-partisan I hope never to see that except in a time of war or attack on this country. Personally I want them to have a verbal duel to the death. When they are bi-partisan they get more and more into the pocket of the american people. I want there to be a difference that is recognizable between the parties. A BIG DIFFERENCE Quote Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this. Quotes by Susan Gottesman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 Quote: This is my take on this. I think we have seen this coming for a long time now. This event is the cusp of the paradigm shift in American politics as to how the American voter sees partisan politics. People are fed up with partisan party politics. I don't believe it was the partisan politics. It was the politics of one party. Quote: This is a good thing for Obama. It forces him to take on a more moderate partisan stance and it teaches the Democratic party that they need both stronger candidates and better run campaigns. Considering the fact that Brown didn't have a party machine backing him up, he did very well. Not to sure it will force Obama to do anything he doesn't want to do. The republicans at the hands of Newt Gingrich did force Clinton. Obama is a whole different breed. He is a socialist in everything that matters.He does firmly believe his ideology.I don't think he will stop at anything in trying to "reshape this country" Obama's words Quote: The American people (in Mass. anyway) have just sent out a powerful message. Meet our needs first, worry about your party agenda later. Obama is convinced he is meeting the needs of the people,they just don't know it yet.He knows what is best As he said about the health care,it will be unpopular till it was made into law. As far as being bi-partisan I hope never to see that except in a time of war or attack on this country. Personally I want them to have a verbal duel to the death. When they are bi-partisan they get more and more into the pocket of the american people. I want there to be a difference that is recognizable between the parties. A BIG DIFFERENCE Amen Bonnie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members abelisle Posted January 20, 2010 Members Share Posted January 20, 2010 Bonnie, Who knows? You may be right on all counts. I respectfully disagree with you but I still respect your thoughts, feelings and very acute political analysis. That's what's so nice about this forum and this sub-forum. We can all agree to disagree and still love each other. I just have one key question for you - do you actually have a gun at home? Alex Quote We are our worst enemy - sad but true. http://abelisle.blogspot.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonnie Posted January 20, 2010 Author Share Posted January 20, 2010 Bonnie, Who knows? You may be right on all counts. I respectfully disagree with you but I still respect your thoughts, feelings and very acute political analysis. That's what's so nice about this forum and this sub-forum. We can all agree to disagree and still love each other. I just have one key question for you - do you actually have a gun at home? Alex Yup. Two actually Quote Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this. Quotes by Susan Gottesman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karl Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 I think Obama has good intentions and has been doing what he thinks is right. This may give him pause to reconsider the will of the people. Imagine that!! Nah. Never happen. He's above such plebeian activity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karl Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 KARL WELL like I said this will get OBAMA'S attention at least much of his agenda will not get pushed though just because dgrimm60 We shall see. I'm not holding my breath waiting for him to change. People don't change very readily. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, and sometimes it happens quickly, but it usually requires a major personal crisis, and I don't think this is anywhere close to a transforming personal crisis in the mind of Obama. He is still wielding the scepter in his mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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