Woody Posted July 13, 2010 Share Posted July 13, 2010 . Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woody Posted July 14, 2010 Author Share Posted July 14, 2010 Well ... I pray they don't follow the NAACP's example in this regard. Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonnie Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 Well ... I pray they don't follow the NAACP's example in this regard. There is no place to vote concerning the supposed racism of tea partiers' As they are not they cannot be more so or less Quote Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this. Quotes by Susan Gottesman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members phkrause Posted July 14, 2010 Members Share Posted July 14, 2010 Should've had a maybe for the NAACP, as far as the tea party! I don't believe so. There definitely not what people think they are, but they are not racist, sorry Alex. Quote phkrause By the decree enforcing the institution of the papacy in violation of the law of God, our nation will disconnect herself fully from righteousness. When Protestantism shall stretch her hand across the gulf to grasp the hand of the Roman power, when she shall reach over the abyss to clasp hands with spiritualism, when, under the influence of this threefold union, our country shall repudiate every principle of its Constitution as a Protestant and republican government, and shall make provision for the propagation of papal falsehoods and delusions, then we may know that the time has come for the marvelous working of Satan and that the end is near. {5T 451.1} Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SivartM Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 The whole "racist" thing is really starting to lose its shock factor. Soon we'll have to invent another word to describe racists. Either that or people will just stop caring altogether. If I meet someone who is prejudiced against other races, they are racist. But I don't know this NAACP person. Quote "Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much." - Oscar Wilde�Do to others whatever you would like them to do to you. This is the essence of all that is taught in the law and the prophets." - Jesus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Bravus Posted July 14, 2010 Moderators Share Posted July 14, 2010 The tea partiers are a very, very loose conglomeration of people. Like any other such conglomeration, some individual members are probably racist, but the organisation as a whole isn't. The NAACP is set up to advance a particular racial group, so it could be considered racist in that sense, however it was set up in response to particular racist abuses of that same racial group. I very much look forward to the time when it will no longer be needed, and am not sure exactly how we would measure when that time has arrived. Certainly on a large range of outcome measures 'Coloured People' are still doing a lot worse than their colourless peers in the same communities... Quote Truth is important Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Shane Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 If those folks served some ice tea with lemon and sweetened with some Splenda or Saccharin I might just attend their parties. Quote Pastoral Family Counselor... Find me at www.PostumCafe.com Author of Peculiar Christianity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woody Posted July 14, 2010 Author Share Posted July 14, 2010 good point Bonnie Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members abelisle Posted July 14, 2010 Members Share Posted July 14, 2010 Obviously humor doesn't play well here? My poll was a play on what the NAACP asserted. Too bad no one picked up on that - bonnie coming the closest though. Alex (how about a poll to see if our 'black' conferences are ipso facto racist Quote We are our worst enemy - sad but true. http://abelisle.blogspot.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woody Posted July 14, 2010 Author Share Posted July 14, 2010 . Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members phkrause Posted July 14, 2010 Members Share Posted July 14, 2010 I don't think so. :) Quote phkrause By the decree enforcing the institution of the papacy in violation of the law of God, our nation will disconnect herself fully from righteousness. When Protestantism shall stretch her hand across the gulf to grasp the hand of the Roman power, when she shall reach over the abyss to clasp hands with spiritualism, when, under the influence of this threefold union, our country shall repudiate every principle of its Constitution as a Protestant and republican government, and shall make provision for the propagation of papal falsehoods and delusions, then we may know that the time has come for the marvelous working of Satan and that the end is near. {5T 451.1} Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olger Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 Quote "Please don't feed the drama queens.." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amelia Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 Billboard Linking Obama, Hitler Draws Complaints http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=11154885 North Iowa Tea Party A billboard ordered and paid for by the North Iowa Tea Party shows President Barack Obama, Adolf Hitler, left, and Vladimir Lenin, on South Federal Avenue in Mason City, Iowa, July 12, 2010. (AP Photo/Globe Gazette, Deb Nicklay) Quote <p><span style="color:#0000FF;"><span style="font-weight:bold;"><span style="font-style:italic;">"Do not use harmful words, but only helpful words, the kind that build up and provide what is needed, so that what you say will do good to those who hear you."</span></span> Eph 4:29</span><br><br><img src="http://banners.wunderground.com/weathersticker/gizmotimetemp_both/US/OR/Fairview.gif" alt="Fairview.gif"> Fairview Or</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amelia Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 NAACP condemns racism in tea party Political movement members deny bigotry by HEATHER HOLLINGSWORTH Associated Press 7/13/2010 Share Print Font: + - KANSAS CITY, Mo. — Leaders of the country's largest civil rights organization accused tea party activists on Tuesday of tolerating bigotry and approved a resolution condemning racism within the political movement. The resolution was adopted during the annual convention in Kansas City of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, spokesman Chris Fleming said. Local tea party organizers disputed claims of racism and called on the NAACP to withdraw the resolution. It was not immediately clear how the resolution was amended during the debate, which was mostly closed to the public. The original called for the NAACP to "educate its membership and the community that this movement is not just about higher taxes and limited government." It suggested that something could evolve "and become more dangerous for that small percentage of people that really think our country has been taken away from them." http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38234502/ns/politics/ Quote <p><span style="color:#0000FF;"><span style="font-weight:bold;"><span style="font-style:italic;">"Do not use harmful words, but only helpful words, the kind that build up and provide what is needed, so that what you say will do good to those who hear you."</span></span> Eph 4:29</span><br><br><img src="http://banners.wunderground.com/weathersticker/gizmotimetemp_both/US/OR/Fairview.gif" alt="Fairview.gif"> Fairview Or</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatLakesGramma Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 Oh, so because the tea party doesn't like Obama's politics, that automatically makes them racist? Right. Quote Catherine God is the strength of my heart and my portion forever. Psalm 73:26. "To be a Christian means to forgive the inexcusable, because God has forgiven the inexcusable in you." -- C. S. Lewis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonnie Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 Oh, so because the tea party doesn't like Obama's politics, that automatically makes them racist? Right. That pretty much goes for anyone that does not like what Obama is doing.Those slinging the accusations forget that the tea partiers are not just upset with Obama but a large percentage of republicans.Many that did support Obama no longer do and are becoming more vocal. I suppose it is possible to belief if you dislike what Obama is doing it makes all racist Quote Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this. Quotes by Susan Gottesman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Bravus Posted July 14, 2010 Moderators Share Posted July 14, 2010 Nope, I think that's a bit of an offshoot from the discussion. It's pretty clear there have been racist *elements* in some of the tea party protests. The Obama-as-witchdoctor poster seems pretty straightforwardly racist to me, for example. And that's actually what that NAACP resolution says, if it's read carefully: there are racist *elements* within the tea party movement that are potentially dangerous if allowed to flourish. Quote Truth is important Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rudywoofs (Pam) Posted July 14, 2010 Members Share Posted July 14, 2010 On ABC news tonight, a member of the tea party was asked if he thought it (the tea party) was racist. He said, "no." He was a black man. Then he was asked about some of the tea party protests using racial innuendos, and he said there would always be that element in any group. Quote Pam Meddle Not In the Affairs of Dragons; for You Are Crunchy and Taste Good with Ketchup. If we all sang the same note in the choir, there'd never be any harmony. Funny, isn't it, how we accept Grace for ourselves and demand justice for others? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonnie Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 On ABC news tonight, a member of the tea party was asked if he thought it (the tea party) was racist. He said, "no." He was a black man. Then he was asked about some of the tea party protests using racial innuendos, and he said there would always be that element in any group. As for the socialist signs that may be a result of over 50%? believe that is an accurate description of Obama Quote Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this. Quotes by Susan Gottesman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Bravus Posted July 14, 2010 Moderators Share Posted July 14, 2010 Coupled with a pretty much complete lack of understanding of what 'socialist' means. (Hint, Hilter wasn't it.) Quote Truth is important Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonnie Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 Coupled with a pretty much complete lack of understanding of what 'socialist' means. (Hint, Hilter wasn't it.) You may be right that most people don't understand it. Many americans due to the lack of education in public schools haven't a clue as to the US constitution.They can turn to the history books and the wealth of information on the internet which it seems they are They do know instinctively when something threatens our way of life in the US tho.It may take awhile for the lights to go on and to realize they may not be on the receiving end of utopia. Bit by bit more and more are beginning to grasp something is terribly wrong with Obama's plans for America.You can see that in the sheer numbers deserting the utopian ship. What sounded great in the beginning is coming ever closer to home for a lot of Americans. The new medicare and medicaid czar should be loads of fun once he gets rolling. Quote Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this. Quotes by Susan Gottesman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatLakesGramma Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 No, Nazism is not socialism. But a friend of mine told me about a man she saw on TV who compared his actions with Hitler's. She said the Nazi's first took control of health care. Then when people started complaining about the cost, they took out the elderly and infirm, with the excuse that they were a financial drain on the system, and no longer productive. Then they went after the mentally retarded and mentally ill with the same excuse. And by the time they went after the Jews, Germany had become a nation of murderers. This commentator fully expects the same of this country. He believes it's just one more part of a conspiracy to enslave the American people that has been in progress for decades, and the economic crisis was manufactured in order to advance the same conspiracy. Whether he's right about it being a conspiracy or not, the United States is heading in that direction. The only reason we didn't beat Greece to financial ruin, even though we have had exactly the same issues for longer than them, is because the US economy is much larger, and prints its own currency. But if the same attitudes continue, we will get there too. And I fully expect, conspiracy or not, Obama or not, we will get to the point where the elderly and infirm will be considered a financial drain on the system that should be eliminated. They've had decades of eliminating the unborn for no other reason than that they are inconvenient, so doing the same to the elderly and infirm isn't going to be that much of a stretch. This is why the thought that, if nothing changes by 2014, the government will probably be picking up the whole tab for husband's and my medical insurance that they are going to force us to have, is not the least bit comforting to me. Quite the contrary, in fact. Quote Catherine God is the strength of my heart and my portion forever. Psalm 73:26. "To be a Christian means to forgive the inexcusable, because God has forgiven the inexcusable in you." -- C. S. Lewis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonnie Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 No, Nazism is not socialism. But a friend of mine told me about a man she saw on TV who compared his actions with Hitler's. She said the Nazi's first took control of health care. Then when people started complaining about the cost, they took out the elderly and infirm, with the excuse that they were a financial drain on the system, and no longer productive. Then they went after the mentally retarded and mentally ill with the same excuse. And by the time they went after the Jews, Germany had become a nation of murderers. This commentator fully expects the same of this country. He believes it's just one more part of a conspiracy to enslave the American people that has been in progress for decades, and the economic crisis was manufactured in order to advance the same conspiracy. Whether he's right about it being a conspiracy or not, the United States is heading in that direction. The only reason we didn't beat Greece to financial ruin, even though we have had exactly the same issues for longer than them, is because the US economy is much larger, and prints its own currency. But if the same attitudes continue, we will get there too. And I fully expect, conspiracy or not, Obama or not, we will get to the point where the elderly and infirm will be considered a financial drain on the system that should be eliminated. They've had decades of eliminating the unborn for no other reason than that they are inconvenient, so doing the same to the elderly and infirm isn't going to be that much of a stretch. This is why the thought that, if nothing changes by 2014, the government will probably be picking up the whole tab for husband's and my medical insurance that they are going to force us to have, is not the least bit comforting to me. Quite the contrary, in fact. I can't read the minds of those putting up the signs but I took it not as Nazism and socialism are the same but that socialism is the first step.I am not so sure it is a conspiracy either,more a sign of the times we are living in. Is it possible there will be a reprieve? None of us know. Take some time if you haven't and search the new czars history and what he has said. More than a little scary Quote Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this. Quotes by Susan Gottesman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Shane Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 The Obama-as-witchdoctor poster seems pretty straightforwardly racist to me I see that poster as more of a slam toward his health-care plan than being racist. If a critic of a Native American politician made a poster with the politician all dressed up in indian war garments, would that be racist? Let's say the politician was in favor of going to war with Iran, would the poster still be racist? Quote Pastoral Family Counselor... Find me at www.PostumCafe.com Author of Peculiar Christianity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SivartM Posted July 14, 2010 Share Posted July 14, 2010 I didn't know Russia still had czars... Quote "Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much." - Oscar Wilde�Do to others whatever you would like them to do to you. This is the essence of all that is taught in the law and the prophets." - Jesus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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