'not really a Christian'

[Twilight]

Originally Posted By: Twilight

My point is simple.

You lay a charge at the door of Christianity that can be laid at the door of any worldview.

So?

Because you want to invalidate Christianity using an argument that should be applied to all mankind in its carnal state.

It is the state of man that causes the conditions in society.

Not the state of "religion" or "Abrahamic" religion.

The only solution is direct help from the Creator Himself.

Which the bible points out.

But what of you?

What have you got to offer?

[cardw]

My point is simple.

You lay a charge at the door of Christianity that can be laid at the door of any worldview.

Originally Posted By: cardw

So?

Because you want to invalidate Christianity using an argument that should be applied to all mankind in its carnal state.

It is the state of man that causes the conditions in society.

So you admit that the Bible is presenting a man made solution. I'm glad we agree.

[phkrause]

Because you want to invalidate Christianity using an argument that should be applied to all mankind in its carnal state.

It is the state of man that causes the conditions in society.

Not the state of "religion" or "Abrahamic" religion.

The only solution is direct help from the Creator Himself.

Which the bible points out.

But what of you?

What have you got to offer?

Twilight you some good points.

I've mentioned this to cardw before, that it seems from what I'm reading of his posts, that even though he speaks out against Christianity he acts like one. It seems he tries very hard to distance himself from Christianity. I believe Christianity requires a lot of Faith, there is not a lot of evidence per say. We have to trust (have faith) that what we read in the Bible is true. I also believe that all these other things, like evolution, etc., also require faith! Its our choice, to what we want to put our trust it. I prefer the Bible and Jesus Christ. That's where I put my faith. Each one of us has to make our own choice, and that's what cardw has done. And even though, like I've mentioned before, if he wants to admit it or not, I find him to be more christian like than most here on the forum.

[Twilight]

Originally Posted By: Twilight

Because you want to invalidate Christianity using an argument that should be applied to all mankind in its carnal state.

It is the state of man that causes the conditions in society.

Not the state of "religion" or "Abrahamic" religion.

The only solution is direct help from the Creator Himself.

Which the bible points out.

But what of you?

What have you got to offer?

Twilight you some good points.

I've mentioned this to cardw before, that it seems from what I'm reading of his posts, that even though he speaks out against Christianity he acts like one. It seems he tries very hard to distance himself from Christianity. I believe Christianity requires a lot of Faith, there is not a lot of evidence per say. We have to trust (have faith) that what we read in the Bible is true. I also believe that all these other things, like evolution, etc., also require faith! Its our choice, to what we want to put our trust it. I prefer the Bible and Jesus Christ. That's where I put my faith. Each one of us has to make our own choice, and that's what cardw has done. And even though, like I've mentioned before, if he wants to admit it or not, I find him to be more christian like than most here on the forum.

I would not judge so PK.

Anyone who opposses the Gospel, should not be credited with behaviour that is in line with the Gospel.