cricket Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 Here you go, read this, then you'll know why I think cheese is unfit for human consumption: Moooove over milk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overaged Posted January 23, 2011 Author Share Posted January 23, 2011 Well; I can't buy anything online. I don't use a credit card anymore. Are you not able to just describe what YOUR reasons are for not eating cheese? And would you include ALL CHEESES? Just for the record; I am starting to wonder about how wise it is to eat such foods, but I don't want a bunch of fanatical/incorrect reasons to give about why I don't eat it. I am currently researching the matter; but I find the Church largely un-helpful in explaining this accurately to me. Any objections I raise here have been put to me already. Quote "People [rarely] see...the bright light which is in the clouds..." (Job 37:21)"I cannot know why suddenly the stormshould rage so fiercely round me in it's wrathBut this I know: God watches all my pathAnd I can trust""God helps us to draw strength from the storm" - OveragedFaith makes things possible; it does not make them easy, Steps To Christ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators John317 Posted January 24, 2011 Moderators Share Posted January 24, 2011 You're right about milk being hazardous to one's health. I love milk and all dairy products but I've had to cut way back. I grew up drinking soy milk so I enjoy it too. It's better for you, for sure. My parents started buying soy milk before I was born when my big brother had asthma. Once he stopped drinking cow's milk, he no longer had asthma. (I realize this doesn't work in all cases, but it did in my brother's.) Quote John 3:16-17 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. [17] For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon1 Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 After leaving the world's diet, I was vegan for years, then gradually allowed yogurt to enter my menu. This was a mistake. God convicted me that dairy would destroy me if I did not leave it. I would either overcome, or be overcome. Thank God for grace and conviction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amelia Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 Being lactose Intolerant I pass on cows milk. Didn't like the taste of goats milk so I started using soy milk. It's been so many years now that I can't even stand the smell of cows milk. I do however use low fat mozzerella on salads and stuff. And I love yogurt. Go figure. Quote <p><span style="color:#0000FF;"><span style="font-weight:bold;"><span style="font-style:italic;">"Do not use harmful words, but only helpful words, the kind that build up and provide what is needed, so that what you say will do good to those who hear you."</span></span> Eph 4:29</span><br><br><img src="http://banners.wunderground.com/weathersticker/gizmotimetemp_both/US/OR/Fairview.gif" alt="Fairview.gif"> Fairview Or</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Shane Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 We eat mostly fat-free cheeses except when in a restaurant. Soft cheese is easier to digest than hard cheese. I think cheese should be avoided as a staple in the diet because everything healthy about it is better found in other products. There are better sources of calcium and protein. Even milk and eggs are a better source than cheese. So we do eat cheese two or three times a week but it is not a staple like rice, beans, bread, soy milk, cereal or peanut butter. Quote Pastoral Family Counselor... Find me at www.PostumCafe.com Author of Peculiar Christianity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottie Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 Ovveraged - - Sorry about the putrefaction. I didn't have the proper definition in my head. You are right. But the video did say that the mozzarella was made with rennet. How (what type and/or brand) is cheese made without rennet? Are you referring to cottage cheese? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottie Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 Another question-- What does one use on spicy foods to eliminate the "hot" taste? My hubby eats mostly "Amy's" products which tend to be very spicy. Milk products are the only thing that we have found to cut the "hot" taste. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amelia Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 Here us a brand name listing of rennent free cheeses http://cheese.joyousliving.com/CheeseListType.aspx Quote <p><span style="color:#0000FF;"><span style="font-weight:bold;"><span style="font-style:italic;">"Do not use harmful words, but only helpful words, the kind that build up and provide what is needed, so that what you say will do good to those who hear you."</span></span> Eph 4:29</span><br><br><img src="http://banners.wunderground.com/weathersticker/gizmotimetemp_both/US/OR/Fairview.gif" alt="Fairview.gif"> Fairview Or</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cricket Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 Well; I can't buy anything online. I don't use a credit card anymore. Are you not able to just describe what YOUR reasons are for not eating cheese? And would you include ALL CHEESES? Just for the record; I am starting to wonder about how wise it is to eat such foods, but I don't want a bunch of fanatical/incorrect reasons to give about why I don't eat it. I am currently researching the matter; but I find the Church largely un-helpful in explaining this accurately to me. Any objections I raise here have been put to me already. I purchased the book from our Adventist Book Center. Perhaps you can too. Really, if you want to know why it is important to stop consumption of milk, I suggest purchasing the book yourself. One's own personal reasons should not persuade anyone else, but the evidence provided in this book might. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Shane Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 Another question-- What does one use on spicy foods to eliminate the "hot" taste? My hubby eats mostly "Amy's" products which tend to be very spicy. Milk products are the only thing that we have found to cut the "hot" taste. Mexicans use lemon. Many do not realize the Mexicans eat almost as many lemons as they do chili peppers. It seems to take the sting out of really hot foods. Milk works too although I think lemons might actually work better. Quote Pastoral Family Counselor... Find me at www.PostumCafe.com Author of Peculiar Christianity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators John317 Posted January 24, 2011 Moderators Share Posted January 24, 2011 Mexicans use lemon. Many do not realize the Mexicans eat almost as many lemons as they do chili peppers. It seems to take the sting out of really hot foods. That's for sure. I'm glad we have highly productive lemon tree. My wife and kids use lemon on everything from menudo to rice, tomales, shrimp and cilantro. (My wife doesn't eat much shrimp any more since becoming SDA, and we use a meat substitute in the vegegarian style menudo. I use to love shrimp but never did like the real menudo.) Quote John 3:16-17 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. [17] For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Shane Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 Those that don't like rennent probably wouldn't be big fans of menudo. Quote Pastoral Family Counselor... Find me at www.PostumCafe.com Author of Peculiar Christianity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Tom Wetmore Posted January 24, 2011 Administrators Share Posted January 24, 2011 What a load of tripe... Quote "Absurdity reigns and confusion makes it look good." "Sinless perfection is such a shallow goal." "I love God only as much as the person I love the least." *Forgiveness is always good news. And that is the gospel truth. (And finally, the ideas expressed above are solely my person views and not that of any organization with which I am associated.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Gail Posted January 24, 2011 Administrators Share Posted January 24, 2011 Tom, you're the BEST! I think I may have eaten tripe by accident at a award-winning Chinese restaurant in town. Tasted like chicken. In fact, I thought we were ordering chicken because that is what it said on the menu. I don't like to go there anymore. *urp* Quote Isaiah 32:17 And the work of righteousness shall be peace; and the effect of righteousness quietness and assurance for ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LifeHiscost Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Hmmm, thats weird because we have a cheese factory just a few miles from our place, There aint no "manure pile" anywhere near it. I have heard this kind of shock talk before, trying to scare people; it would be nice to just have facts WITH evidence. Would you mind pointing out the sentence or statement that said you were suppose to do anything. Usually when a person gets hyper over the relating of information, true or false it's a good indication, established in the mind is a lack of security for the future, based on the idea one must be perfect and considered so by others. God blesses! Quote Lift Jesus up!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LifeHiscost Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 From Wikipedia Etc. I was wondering why I gave up the three-cheese pizza. Maybe be one once in awhile but no more. God blesses! Quote Lift Jesus up!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overaged Posted January 25, 2011 Author Share Posted January 25, 2011 ] Usually when a person gets hyper over the relating of information, true or false it's a good indication, established in the mind is a lack of security for the future, based on the idea one must be perfect and considered so by others.God blesses! What on earth are you talking about? Quote "People [rarely] see...the bright light which is in the clouds..." (Job 37:21)"I cannot know why suddenly the stormshould rage so fiercely round me in it's wrathBut this I know: God watches all my pathAnd I can trust""God helps us to draw strength from the storm" - OveragedFaith makes things possible; it does not make them easy, Steps To Christ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Shane Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Rennent is produced by animals just like milk or saliva is. There is really nothing more disgusting about rennent than there is about milk or saliva. Rennent is not a flesh food any more than milk or saliva is. Those that are concerned about it need to stop eating gelatin products like Jell-O and taking pills in gelatin capsules. Gelatin is made of animal bones and skin. Quote Pastoral Family Counselor... Find me at www.PostumCafe.com Author of Peculiar Christianity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon1 Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Those that are concerned about it need to stop eating gelatin products like Jell-O and taking pills in gelatin capsules. Gelatin is made of animal bones and skin. Good advice on gelatin Shane. Like many animal proteins it may be a vector for CJD - Mad Cow Disease - Alzheimer's. Not Kosher. Nor would I drink a cup of cow's saliva. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fccool Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 If we speak in terms of food safety, then the only thing that is trully safe is either organic produce from a farm, or the stuff from your own garden. GMO Soy and corn have been studied and shown detrimental effects, especially related to male fertility and sickness and defects in first generation. If you consider the fact that much of the vege meat in ABC store contains GMO soy and corn, the picture should be clear. Some of that GMO products have not even been approved for human consumption. http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2001/03/17/kelloggs-gm-corn.aspx If you wanna stay healthy, better have your own garden, or befriend a farmer who stays away from unnatural farming. I certainly would recommend staying away from vege meats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LifeHiscost Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 I certainly would recommend staying away from vege meats. GMOs Too late to turn back. Time for Jesus to come. "...and the first did go away, and did pour out his vial upon the land, and there came a sore -- bad and grievous -- to men, those having the mark of the beast, and those bowing to his image."Rev 16:2 YLT God blesses! Quote Lift Jesus up!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LifeHiscost Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 What on earth are you talking about? "In those days before the flood, the people were enjoying banquets and parties and weddings right up to the time Noah entered his boat. People didn’t realize what was going to happen until the flood came and swept them all away. That is the way it will be when the Son of Man comes."Matt 24:38-40 NLT God blesses! Quote Lift Jesus up!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overaged Posted January 26, 2011 Author Share Posted January 26, 2011 Originally Posted By: fccool I certainly would recommend staying away from vege meats. GMOs Too late to turn back. Time for Jesus to come. "...and the first did go away, and did pour out his vial upon the land, and there came a sore -- bad and grievous -- to men, those having the mark of the beast, and those bowing to his image."Rev 16:2 YLT God blesses! Well Jesus isn't going to come just because you tell Him to with the "right" verse. So how do we decide about cheese? Is it OK to eat; or not? What about human cheese? Or dog cheese? I have shown some Bible texts about that appear to OK cheese eating? What say ye all? Quote "People [rarely] see...the bright light which is in the clouds..." (Job 37:21)"I cannot know why suddenly the stormshould rage so fiercely round me in it's wrathBut this I know: God watches all my pathAnd I can trust""God helps us to draw strength from the storm" - OveragedFaith makes things possible; it does not make them easy, Steps To Christ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LifeHiscost Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 I have shown some Bible texts about that appear to OK cheese eating? What say ye all? "So whether you eat or drink, or whatever you do, do it all for the glory of God."1 Corinthians 10:31 NLT "Everything is permissible (allowable and lawful) for me; but not all things are helpful (good for me to do, expedient and profitable when considered with other things). Everything is lawful for me, but I will not become the slave of anything or be brought under its power."1 Cor 6:12 AMP Parenthesis theirs LHC God blesses! Quote Lift Jesus up!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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