Yesterday's Visitors - Browsers

[Stan]

Interesting stats (well at least to me)

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[Stan]

Operating systems used

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[Stan]

I am surprised that so many people use mozilla...

or is firefox etc a Mozilla?? I do not see any firefoxs..

[Barbara]

The full name of Firefox is Mozilla Firefox

[aka]

I love reading STATS of any kind.

It is so neat to see something being measured.

I would rather use my installed for action Mozilla FireFox but am having problems with keystroke freezes each time I get going with it. So I use Navigator and come out better.

Just to about next-to-never would I ever use IE anymore.

[Bravus]

I'm noticing this on my blog too: although the claim is that IE has over 90% of the market and the rest is carved up among the rest, Mozilla and all its kids (including Firefox) usually wins. I think the deal is that CA and my blog just attract the 1337. <img src="/ubbtreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

[wicklunds]

Oh no! I have become mainstream in my browser preference. I must look for another now.

[Jeannieb43]

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Turmeric said:

Just to about next-to-never would I ever use IE anymore.

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Please tell us why you would never use Internet Explorer any more. I'm totally ignorant about this stuff.

[cricket]

To no one in particular;

I use IE. Always have, always will (unless they take it away from me).

I use Windows XP, but I sure miss just plain ol' DOS.

I use hotmail and now, yahoo.

I have no personal website, and I don't really see a reason for one.

I still pay bills by check in the mail. I still keep track of them with pen and paper.

My taxes are done the old fashioned way--I do them myself and use a hand-held calculator.

Some might say I'm an old dog stuck in my ways. But, I'm only 35.

Go figure!

[aka]

Jeannie, it is an attitude of distrust learned over the years from reading the bad write-ups reports on IE of any version when it comes to the vicious and succesful hacker attacks on the products of Microsoft.

There is a war going on in cyberspace with the intent of bring the billionare Bill Gates to his knees and the geeks are out to get him. We the footmen are the worse off at times with our many PC crashes, trojans in our computers doing spy stuff for remote computers we don't know about, and getting the viruses causing havoc in the works just at the time we though we could carry on and on and on without a glitch.

To put it in a nutshell why I avoid using my WindowsXP IE browser is to do with CONTROL and lack of TRUST. They have so many features interwoven with my harddrive which can send signals home to BillGates Microsoft homeoffice that I distrust them. They can and do use data they glean from my computer for their own advancements. And for marketing almost direct to me items through sublimal selling tricks causes me to buy more software. The CONTROL they use in subtle ways is unnerving when one finds out just how they at Microsoft through outreach of their products use us to meet their end goals.

Turmeric

[aka]

Besides…..(the following is from PCWorld online magazine)

IE's unique features increases its online vulnerability. Examples include IE's security zones; its support for scripted ActiveX controls and for scripts that let Web sites hide browser menus and toolbars; and Dynamic HTML support. Other browsers simply do not have these features. Many companies continue to employ Microsoft-proprietary scripting and HTML extensions that make their sites fully functional only when viewed using Internet Explorer. That is one of their CONTROL devices that I don’t like or has affected my trust in “them” and their products. And even when you do set up a different default browser, some features of Windows--including the crucial Windows Update patch mechanism, Windows Messenger, and Outlook Express--invoke IE regardless of your default browser choice.

Measures that US-CERT recommends include disabling Active scripting (which encompasses JavaScript) and ActiveX controls in both the Internet and Local Machine zones; applying security updates for Microsoft Outlook; sending and receiving mail using the script-proof plain-text format; using an updated antivirus program; and avoiding links embedded in unsolicited e-mail, instant messages, or Web forums.

Concerns about IE's flaws may further decrease as users install Windows XP Service Pack 2. I laud SP2 for incorporating new IE features that protect users from attempts to invoke or install malicious software via a Web page. SP2 prevents Web sites from altering IE's interface--for example, by hiding address and status bars that show the real name of a Web page, which allows perpetrators of phishing attacks to make their pages look much more believable.

(Phishing is the use of realistic-looking Web pages or e-mail messages purportedly from banks or other financial institutions that request recipients to enter their user names and passwords, which then go directly to the attackers.)

A number of significant vulnerabilities in technologies relating to the IE domain/zone security model, the DHTML object model, MIME type determination, and ActiveX," and that "it is possible to reduce exposure to these vulnerabilities by using a different Web browser, especially when browsing untrusted sites."

Using different browsers can also change the way you experience the Web. On the one hand, they can stop you in your tracks at Web sites engineered to work only with IE. But on the other hand, you might be pleasantly surprised: Alternative browser features missing in IE include password managers and tabbed browser windows.

Enable Automatic Updates if you are working with Windows XP,

-right-click My Computer,

-choose Properties, Automatic Updates,

- and make sure that 'Keep my computer up to date' is checked.

Once a month (preferably just after Microsoft announces its latest security fixes), visit windowsupdate.microsoft.com, let the site scan your system, and then download anything labeled 'Critical'. Every month, no exceptions--got it?

Microsoft has many enemies employing profi hackers who do the malicious cracker thing to program all those nasties in virus, bugs, worms, and Trojans, to enter down into Microsoft products like Outlook Express, InternetExplorer and Windows operating syptems.

Many of the worms and viruses floating around the Internet take advantage of known flaws in operating systems and applications--notably the Internet Explorer Web browser. Others exploit lax application security; unpatched older versions of Microsoft Outlook and Outlook Express are vulnerable to virus- and worm-bearing e-mail, for example.

--To even the odds against these threats, regularly download and install the fixes that Microsoft and other companies issue.

--Turn off scripting behaviors in Internet Explorer: Many worms and viruses spread through Web page scripts (commands in the page that push the worm out to anyone who opens it in IE). Other browsers like FireFox don't have this problem, but if you can't or simply won't change to Opera, Mozilla, or another browser, you must alter IE's scripting settings to block the threat.

In IE,

--click Tools, Internet Options, Security. --Choose the Earth icon under 'Select a Web content zone',

--and click Custom Level.

The settings in the dialog have three options: Disable, Enable, and Prompt. Enabling everything is asking for trouble, but being prompted every time a script or ActiveX control wants to run will drive you batty.

In any event,

--disable 'Download unsigned ActiveX controls', 'Initialize and script ActiveX controls not marked as safe', 'Active scripting', and 'Scripting of Java applets'.

--Set 'Java permissions' to High Safety.

With scripts disabled, many of your favorite Web sites may not open.

Web mail service may require scripting. If so, add the URLs for these sites and services to IE's Trusted Sites list.

Open IE and

--click Tools, Internet Options, Security. Select the Trusted Sites icon, click Sites, and then enter the URLs one at a time.

--Uncheck Require server verification (https:) for all sites in this zone, and click OK

Internet Explorer, the Web browser built into Windows starting with Windows 98, is convenient and fast. However, many viruses and worms take advantage of its features and security flaws. You can avoid running dangerous browser-based programs by keeping the program up to date, declining mysterious downloads that ask your permission to run,

--and keeping IE's security settings sufficiently high.

Better yet, use an alternative browser such as the free Mozilla or ad-supported Opera. Neither supports the potentially dangerous ActiveX controls that IE users must beware of. Few Web sites (except at Microsoft's Windows Update) require IE's ActiveX, so switching shouldn't cramp your surfing style.

If you do nothing else, be sure to keep your software updated, install and update a reputable antivirus program, and use at least one firewall to block malicious programs from phoning home.

It's up to you: No one else is going to protect your PC.

[CyberGuy]

Well I use Mozilla to access the forum. That should account for half of that Mozilla usage. LOL

[CyberGuy]

By the way folks. Netscape has come out with Netscape 8.0. It seems almost as good as IE. Check it out.

[CyberGuy]

Mozilla is used by CompuServe as its Web Browser as well as Firefox and the regular Mozilla Browser.

[Stan]

If i read it right, those would all be differnet viewers..

[CyberGuy]

Check out these stats.

http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp

Scroll down to see all the stats here.

It shows IE is losting ground but still on the whole 2/3rds are still using IE in this stats. Also more are using Linux than Mac.

I think Stan your useage of a mac is throwing off the statistics here.

[LynnDel]

As interesting as statistics are, the main thing I am gaining from this discussion is a reiteration of how very little privacy one has on the internet. We're probably already at the point where someone like you guys knows more about me than I know about myself.

Now looking for a deserted Pacific island (without technology) (j/k),

LD

[Stan]

Cyberguy

these are not page views but differnet computers/browsers viewers

the average visitor views 4 pages...

[Stan]

I do know that the page views as shown on each thread is not accuate here is a thread I did on that to those who make the software

http://www.ubbcentral.com/boards/showfla...=true#Post42023

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There is, according to the server software, about 8 - 20,000 views per day.

[aka]

Nice to see your openess to want to show correctness of Forum service. Good that you even worry enough about the problem when you see it to go to the InfoPop Forum of UBB to talk about it. I have been on and off reading at that Forum for three years and learned lots about how you Administrators are bugged with lots of Forum technical problems.

What are you saying in end effect, Stan?

That the stats as you posted them on the beginning of this Thread are not as accurate as they appear?

[aka]

Here's a website online PC mag writer telling yet even more bad news about IE 6 .......

Internet Explorer Unsafe

[Jeannieb43]

Thanks, Turmeric, for the explanation.

I (like Christine) do not do any online banking. I feel in my gut that that would be a great way to have my identity stolen. But now that I know people are hacking IE more than other browsers, I do realize that I get some spam which apparently comes from IE, plus other spam which shouldn't have made it through the filter.

I don't use my true name on anything online. Neither do I post my credit card numbers.

Guess maybe I'm as safe as it's possible to be, anyway.

[CyberGuy]

Stan

I have a question. If a person signs out of the forum and closes the browser and then comes right back in again is that another count or does the software know that is the same computer?

[CyberGuy]

If one has the auto updated function turned on it will updated all of microsofts flaws on IE before these articles are even printed about it. So that is a non issue really.

[CyberGuy]

Try this version of Netscape. It is version 8.0

http://browser.netscape.com/ns8/