wicklunds Posted July 23, 2005 Share Posted July 23, 2005 Ed your posts about the seven last plagues are interesting...I was wondering what your thoughts are about how we interpret the three unclean spirits in the context of the pouring out of the vials upon the earth. It would seem that if the three unclean spirits were apostate Protestantism, Roman Catholicism, and Spiritualism, that we are in the process of the vials being poured out. I am at a loss on this one. Dennis Quote It is a backsliding church that lessens the distance between itself and the Papacy. {ST, February 19, 1894 par. 4} Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 Quote: wicklunds said: Ed your posts about the seven last plagues are interesting...I was wondering what your thoughts are about how we interpret the three unclean spirits in the context of the pouring out of the vials upon the earth. It would seem that if the three unclean spirits were apostate Protestantism, Roman Catholicism, and Spiritualism, that we are in the process of the vials being poured out. I am at a loss on this one. Dennis ==================================== Dennis I am most happy to answer you on this subject, but when you say "how WE interpret" troubles me. The way "The church" interpret things is entirely different from bible truth in MOST cases. This verse is no exception. Over the years I have heard hundreds of sermons from SDA ministers that start their sermon off by quoting this verse about 3 unclean spirits, then they lay their bible aside and start preaching from Newsweek magazine about CURRENT happenings. The truth is, these 3 unclean spirits appear primarily during the 6th plague which is the battle of Armageddon. The battle of Armageddon is not fought before the 6th plague or after the sixth plague. But this is only an anticipated battle, not one shot is fired. This army of 200 million is prepared to do some serious killing of the only living saints on this earth scattered all over the world. It is the 144,000 that they plan to kill, but before the law goes into effect at midnight, BOOM, God’s voice roars all the way from heavens throne saying “IT IS DONE” to cause the greatest of all earthquakes where mountains are being plucked up by the roots & cast into the sea a island chains are sinking. I have a lot more to tell you exactly of what the bible teaches in this area, but I will refuse to try and remember the error those with preaching credentials must recite “over & over” thinking that the repeated telling of it, it will someday become truth. I wonder why Greg/Ron/Clio failed to answer me for documentation from the SOP to not engage in conversation with a demon when a Christian rebukes them? They know for sure that a LARGE part of Jesus’ ministry was casting out demons and they know the bible verse that says we should walk in HIS steps. Yet SDA ministers make a WIDE circle around doing any of that because they are wise enough to know that one’s life MUST be clean to do that!!! Just wondering is there anyone out there that even has a desire to be clean anymore? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cardw Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 Quote: They know for sure that a LARGE part of Jesus’ ministry was casting out demons and they know the bible verse that says we should walk in HIS steps. Yet SDA ministers make a WIDE circle around doing any of that because they are wise enough to know that one’s life MUST be clean to do that!!! Just wondering is there anyone out there that even has a desire to be clean anymore? So Ed, have you cast out any demons lately? Have you healed the sick? Do people of ill repute flock to your sermons because you are so loving? Are lives being changed and are people rejoicing because your message provides freedom and joy? Where are your miracles? Where are the fruits of your ministry? Quote Rich http://tiny.cc/CM2j8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amelia Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr /> The way "The church" interpret things is entirely different from bible truth in MOST cases. <hr /></blockquote><font class="post"> Ed, clarification please. When you say that interpretations are different; do you mean that what you write is "THE" truth. The "ONLY" truth and nothing but the absolute "TRUTH"? Quote <p><span style="color:#0000FF;"><span style="font-weight:bold;"><span style="font-style:italic;">"Do not use harmful words, but only helpful words, the kind that build up and provide what is needed, so that what you say will do good to those who hear you."</span></span> Eph 4:29</span><br><br><img src="http://banners.wunderground.com/weathersticker/gizmotimetemp_both/US/OR/Fairview.gif" alt="Fairview.gif"> Fairview Or</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 Quote: Amelia said: Quote: The way "The church" interpret things is entirely different from bible truth in MOST cases. Ed, clarification please. When you say that interpretations are different; do you mean that what you write is "THE" truth. The "ONLY" truth and nothing but the absolute "TRUTH"? ==================== Well Amelia there are scores of places where I disregard the grey paint area and spell it out in black & white. Open your bible and show me where I don't do this. Yes the SDA church have been teaching Revelation different messages wrong for years, I am only here to remind the honest in heart where the platform of truth was at one time in Adventist history. Are you aquainted with Revelation 8 & 9 messages of which this thread is about? That's the reason I'm here, to iron out these and other wrinkles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wicklunds Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 So then Ed, since you have so much gaul to share about most SDA preachers, are there any that are worth listening to? Where should I go on the Sabbath to catch the best and brightest? Or are those the ones that are blackballed from SDA pulpits because of the rich labels the mainstream places on them for adhering so ridgidly to the SOP and the King James? I am interested in even knowing if you are even a current member of the SDA Church or if you mainly consider yourself one of the untouchable 144,000, or both. Please help me understand so I might have access to this new and improved SDA message. Quote It is a backsliding church that lessens the distance between itself and the Papacy. {ST, February 19, 1894 par. 4} Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 No Dennis I am a nobody and no mortal knows who could be numbered with the 144,000, only heaven knows their idenity!!! The 144,000 are the true remnant, those that claim they are the remnant to day are off limits, the Investigative Judgement is still in process and mortals don't get a chance to judge themself by saying the are the remenant. In your neck of the woods and you desire to hear a minister that has a present trth message I would seek out pastor Dave Westbrook. www.backtoenoch.org Or pastor Dennis Crystal from Montana, he comes near your city about twice a month to speak. ----------------------------------- But the question you asked me about Revelation 16, was my answer according to scripture? If not, I want to correct anything not clear as truth can stand investigation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 25, 2005 Share Posted July 25, 2005 Don't the nominal [name only] Adventist find it a Amazing Fact that during the Revelation Seminars that chapters 8 & 9 are never explained? These Revelation lessons don't dare say amything about the 7 Seals either of chapters 5 & 6, why is this? It is because these people that compile these lessons just don't know themselves? If I am into error in my opening remarks on this thread surely there is someone in responsible positions of power should detect the error and shut my big mouth with a thus sayeth the Lord. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 31, 2005 Share Posted July 31, 2005 Outside of Lyle Albreich not many pastors or evangelist ever try and explain Revelation 5 & 6 why is this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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