Belgian Muslims: “We Believe Sharia Will Dominate Worldwide”

[Guest]

http://conservativevideos.com/2013/05/belgian-muslims-we-believe-sharia-will-dominate-worldwide/

[BobRyan]

'Belgian Muslims: “We Believe Sharia Will Dominate Worldwide”" --

Yes - but "how"??

Christian denominations are busy trying to shoot down their own religion by mixing it with the religion of evolutionism - is that why the Muslims think they will be the last-man-standing?

[Textus Receptus]

Not even close. Scripture notes which beast will rule in the end times - aka Catholic church - aided by the 2nd beast aka U.S. The muslim religion is only a tool used by Lucifer. I highly doubt the Jesuits will allow such a thing. And, if we believe what some sources say, the muslim religion was a creation of the Catholic church that had unintentionaly spread like a wild fire.

I do agre that Sharia will dominate but not in a Muslim since.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/01/05/opinion/obeidallah-santorum-sharia

[Ted Oplinger]

Not even close. Scripture notes which beast will rule in the end times - aka Catholic church - aided by the 2nd beast aka U.S. The muslim religion is only a tool used by Lucifer. I highly doubt the Jesuits will allow such a thing. And, if we believe what some sources say, the muslim religion was a creation of the Catholic church that had unintentionaly spread like a wild fire.

I do agre that Sharia will dominate but not in a Muslim since.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/01/05/opinion/obeidallah-santorum-sharia

Well, if the remnant has prophecy interpreted correctly, all this means is that the Muslim ascendancy we currently marvel at will come to an abrupt end one day soon. If we don't, then it would appear that Islam could well be one of the beasts of Revelation 13...else one of the Beast's heads. Sharia is not to dominate - Islam does not truly take the place of God; it requires submission to a false god.

The Papacy, however, does assert to take the place of God on earth through a mortal man - it will eventually win and dominate the world.

You're right - Islam is merely a tool in the hand of the Deceiver; when that tool's usefulness has run its course, it will be dropped in short order.

Blessings though,

[lazarus]

It's interesting to see how European Christians didn't believe that sowing and reaping didn't apply to them.

[Ted Oplinger]

It's interesting to see how European Christians didn't believe that sowing and reaping didn't apply to them.

It is just as interesting to see how Islam doesn't believe sowing and reaping doesn't apply to themselves as well. They have been sowing violence against others - including Christians - since their first years.

It is only a matter of time before someone somewhere in this world says enough, and Islam will reap what they have sown over the last 1400 years.

Islam is also more of a divided house than Christianity is today. The words of Christ about a divided house come to mind here.

Later,

[lazarus]

It is only a matter of time before someone somewhere in this world says enough, and Islam will reap what they have sown over the last 1400 years.

Lol, I think that person will be God and he will be saying it to Christians too and "judgement begins at the house of God".

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Islam is also more of a divided house than Christianity is today. The words of Christ about a divided house come to mind here.

Our understanding of Daniel two places the significance on the divisions among the Christian nations. Apostate Christianity is the greatest threat to humanity not Islam.

[phkrause]

Originally Posted By: Ted Oplinger

It is only a matter of time before someone somewhere in this world says enough, and Islam will reap what they have sown over the last 1400 years.

Lol, I think that person will be God and he will be saying it to Christians too and "judgement begins at the house of God".

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Islam is also more of a divided house than Christianity is today. The words of Christ about a divided house come to mind here.

Our understanding of Daniel two places the significance on the divisions among the Christian nations. Apostate Christianity is the greatest threat to humanity not Islam.

Excellent post Lazarus. And the "Christian Right," not sure if there still called that, will be an even bigger threat to our freedoms than anything we've seen before.

[Ted Oplinger]

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Excellent post Lazarus. And the "Christian Right," not sure if there still called that, will be an even bigger threat to our freedoms than anything we've seen before.

Are you so very certain about that?

The very institution Adventists identify as the Sea Beast, whom it is prophesied is the ultimate source for the Sunday Law, by its social Gospel directs a majority of its voters in America to the Christian and political LEFT. The Earth Beast - whose identity Adventists declare to be America - makes an image of the Sea Beast - which by its social Gospel directs a majority of its voters in America to the Christian and political LEFT.

Canada's Sunday law came from the political Left - and was supported by the Christian LEFT there...Adventists were caught completely flat-footed and outflanked in Canada, as it was the very same ones they voted for who brought that Sunday Law into being. There would be no A.T. Jones to save the day.

A classic pincer movement - focus the attention of one's target on one danger, so that they will not see they are being outflanked on both sides, surrounded, then defeated.

Why must Adventists be so focused on the Christian Right, when the Christian Left is just as fallen, but much more sympathetic in common cause to the Beast than the Christian Right? The Sunday Law can just as easily come from the Left as it can from the Right! Canada was a demonstration of the folly of thinking one could put off that day if only we lined up in political opposition against the those we just knew were going to pass that law!

I have never understood this, not in the whole of 27 years being in this church...

Blessings,

[Ted Oplinger]

Originally Posted By: Ted Oplinger

It is only a matter of time before someone somewhere in this world says enough, and Islam will reap what they have sown over the last 1400 years.

Lol, I think that person will be God and he will be saying it to Christians too and "judgement begins at the house of God".

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Islam is also more of a divided house than Christianity is today. The words of Christ about a divided house come to mind here.

Our understanding of Daniel two places the significance on the divisions among the Christian nations. Apostate Christianity is the greatest threat to humanity not Islam.

And, by that same prophecy of Daniel, it will be Apostate Christianity which will destroy Islam, if Islam does not first collapse from an internal civil war between the Sunni and Sh'ia branches.

For the Gospel to go unto all the world, then the end should come - as Jesus our Lord said it would - then something must come of the hindrance posed by Islam in the parts of the world it controls. Every barrier to the Gospel must fall. Islam boasts its boast against the God of heaven...it will surely fall.

As for who poses the greater threat to humanity...I am constantly reminded that the weapons of our warfare are of divine origin and power, not of the flesh. And we will "appear" to be on the losing side in the end...

Blessings,

[Textus Receptus]

I don't believe that Islam will collapse. If history has taught us anything, people who are not afraid to die make a formidable foe; especially when it is a religious conflict.

I am of the opinion that those at the top of the Islamic religion have a different understanding of their religion than those who are ignorant faithful followers. What is taught, is not necessarily the same beliefs that are believed by those who control the religion. For instance, at the top echelon of the Catholic religion, they are quite aware that their brand of Christianity is nothing more than the ole Baal system of worship; the same can be said of Islam. As a result, both of religions knowingly understand that they are in communion.

The important nexus point for all of this, is Freemasonry. Freemasonry, like the others also espouses the same Baal worship under the guise of Luciferanism. The motivation behind Freemasonry is not easily framed. However, in simplest terms, they are beguiled into believing that the true religion throughout antiquity has been Luciferansim. If you have read Morals and Dogma, you will find a very logical tapestry of lies, where Pike goes as far as stating that Moses, Joseph, the disciples were all initiates in the ancient mysteries. As a result, they truly believe they have been chosen amongst the masses to worship the true unadulterated religion, of which, most major characters of the bible were worshiping.

With this knowledge, they feel empowered to view others as inferior, which unfortunately and unknowingly by them, is used against them by those at the pinnacle of the echelon as a measure of control to do their bidding; most notably to finish the work Nimrod could, that is, to build a one world system. This is easy to do when you take into account ignorance of initiates with regards to prophesy, in conjunction to seeing high ranking Catholic clergy, that claim to be the direct descendent of the Apostle Peter and mainstream Protestant leaders being members such as Billy Graham and Robert Schuller just to name a few.

Where I am getting to with all of this is, Islam will not collapse. Nor will apostate Protestantism facilitate any efforts to that effect. There is no need to since all worship the same God – Lucifer/Baal. Of course, simple parishioners have no understanding of any of this -- just those at the top. What they will seek however is a synthesis of religions visvis tolerance and a slow injection of new age beliefs. How this will all come about is still undetermined, yet the Jesuits are insuring that this process is taking place since Vatican II.

I do believe something supernatural is in the near future that will act as a catalyst to jumpstart this formation, and if my research in new age and occult philosophies are correct, it will involve the veneration of Mary in Islam , Hindu religions, and in the more liberal factions of Protestantism, and Holy Spirit worship by both conservative protestant , and Charismatic churches, where mind you, in occult philosophy, the same attributes of Mary, are also applied to the Holy Spirit. In other words, Mary has simply been morphed to be the Holy Spirit. Evidence of this, are charasmatic churches directly praying to the Holy Spirit, instead of praying to the Father, thus acting as a mediator to God in some cases, and in others, replacing God the Father altogether.

[Guest]

I do believe something supernatural is in the near future that will act as a catalyst to jumpstart this formation, and if my research in new age and occult philosophies are correct, it will involve the veneration of Mary in Islam , Hindu religions, and in the more liberal factions of Protestantism, and Holy Spirit worship by both conservative protestant , and Charismatic churches, where mind you, in occult philosophy, the same attributes of Mary, are also applied to the Holy Spirit. In other words, Mary has simply been morphed to be the Holy Spirit. Evidence of this, are charasmatic churches directly praying to the Holy Spirit, instead of praying to the Father, thus acting as a mediator to God in some cases, and in others, replacing God the Father altogether.

Interesting, Textus.

[Ted Oplinger]

I don't believe that Islam will collapse. If history has taught us anything, people who are not afraid to die make a formidable foe; especially when it is a religious conflict.

I am of the opinion that those at the top of the Islamic religion have a different understanding of their religion than those who are ignorant faithful followers. What is taught, is not necessarily the same beliefs that are believed by those who control the religion. For instance, at the top echelon of the Catholic religion, they are quite aware that their brand of Christianity is nothing more than the ole Baal system of worship; the same can be said of Islam. As a result, both of religions knowingly understand that they are in communion.

The important nexus point for all of this, is Freemasonry. Freemasonry, like the others also espouses the same Baal worship under the guise of Luciferanism. The motivation behind Freemasonry is not easily framed. However, in simplest terms, they are beguiled into believing that the true religion throughout antiquity has been Luciferansim. If you have read Morals and Dogma, you will find a very logical tapestry of lies, where Pike goes as far as stating that Moses, Joseph, the disciples were all initiates in the ancient mysteries. As a result, they truly believe they have been chosen amongst the masses to worship the true unadulterated religion, of which, most major characters of the bible were worshiping.

With this knowledge, they feel empowered to view others as inferior, which unfortunately and unknowingly by them, is used against them by those at the pinnacle of the echelon as a measure of control to do their bidding; most notably to finish the work Nimrod could, that is, to build a one world system. This is easy to do when you take into account ignorance of initiates with regards to prophesy, in conjunction to seeing high ranking Catholic clergy, that claim to be the direct descendent of the Apostle Peter and mainstream Protestant leaders being members such as Billy Graham and Robert Schuller just to name a few.

Where I am getting to with all of this is, Islam will not collapse. Nor will apostate Protestantism facilitate any efforts to that effect. There is no need to since all worship the same God – Lucifer/Baal. Of course, simple parishioners have no understanding of any of this -- just those at the top. What they will seek however is a synthesis of religions visvis tolerance and a slow injection of new age beliefs. How this will all come about is still undetermined, yet the Jesuits are insuring that this process is taking place since Vatican II.

I do believe something supernatural is in the near future that will act as a catalyst to jumpstart this formation, and if my research in new age and occult philosophies are correct, it will involve the veneration of Mary in Islam , Hindu religions, and in the more liberal factions of Protestantism, and Holy Spirit worship by both conservative protestant , and Charismatic churches, where mind you, in occult philosophy, the same attributes of Mary, are also applied to the Holy Spirit. In other words, Mary has simply been morphed to be the Holy Spirit. Evidence of this, are charasmatic churches directly praying to the Holy Spirit, instead of praying to the Father, thus acting as a mediator to God in some cases, and in others, replacing God the Father altogether.

I can see where you are going with those thoughts. It does fit the Devil's method of confederation and amalgamation.

I am looking at the issue from the standpoint of the Gospel movement. Right now, Islam stands as a solid brick wall impeding the movement of the Gospel into and through the Middle East. Likewise the authoritarian regime in China (which really isn't Communist any more - just a dictatorship). China is less so - the Word can move with a bit of freedom there. But wherever Islam holds sway, the Gospel does not move.

Islam will either be removed, compromised, or neutralized, so that the last movements may happen.

Could it be that those at the top will suddenly flow their "wisdom" down to the ignorant masses below them? After centuries of strife and violence against those the Q'uran calls infidels, I can hardly see that happening...but stranger things have happened before (like the Berlin Wall coming down...).

Blessings,

[Textus Receptus]

Interestingly, most Islamic countries forbid proselytizing by Christian groups, all except one, the Catholic church. In effect, if they are impeding the gospel, its only in the protestant form. Catholicism in Islamic countries have a long history. In fact, many ancient churches are built next to Mosque. This stands to reason if we consider that, at the inner core, they are the same – Lucferian.

China is a different matter. Jesuits control every communist country.

Let me preface by stating that as a Graduate student in Political Science, part of our study was to hold what were called ‘roundtables’ where the other students and I would sit and discuss particular subjects with our professor. On one occasion, Communism was the topic of the day. To make a long story short, we were discussing the fall of the Berlin wall.

My professor made, what I thought at least, was an extraordinary comment – that the Vatican had more to do with bringing the wall down, than any of our (U.S.) efforts. The comment shocked me – Why would an esteemed professor say such a statement that is contra to the conventional wisdom that the U.S. visavis Regan had just spent the Soviet Union into submission? I can only come to the conclusion that my professor had studied the events which precipitated into the fall more deeply using different sources other than your quentessential academic prescribed sources.

It was only after researching the Russian Revolution did I find the answer. It is no secret that the Jesuits were at the helms for the Revolution, as they were during the French revolt. When taking into account the Jesuit’s agenda, and how they operate, their main concern was the hold of the Russian people by the Orthodox. Orthodoxy has always been a thorn in the side of Roman Catholicism, in that they do not espouse the supremacy of the pontiff. In creating a Communist Government, they could rid the country of anything that was contra by outlawing religion, and when they were ready, they destroyed Communism , this would serve 2 purposes, 1. to have Vatican be viewed as the Savior 2. to condition the people for the counter reformation to accept the union of both Catholicism and Orthodoxy. We now see evidence of this occurring, which was unimaginable only 50 years ago. The plan worked perfectly.

Back to China-

China does heavily regulate religion, but for different purposes. Some theories that exists are that China is used as a PR plant for the Vatican. With the persecution of Christianity – even that of Catholics, the Vatican can use this to their advantage in giving the illusion that Catholicism is also under attack and not just Protestantism (you see, it's not just you, it's also us). The other reason is that Communist countries, are used as ‘planning stations’ for the Vatican in that information , either in or out is controlled. For instance, if the Jesuits want to plan an agenda, they can do so more easily in countries that have absolute control over the media and the information apparatus. You won’t find any Freedom of Information Acts there. The same can be said about Cuba, and other dictator-led countries. If you research, you will find that many dictators were educated by Jesuits or have heavy connections to them.

When Fidel reached school age his parents sent him to Santiago de Cuba, the capital of Oriente province, to study at the LaSalle School, operated by the Christian Brothers. After a short period of time he was transferred to the Dolores School, operated by the Jesuits. In 1942, after finishing grade school, he was sent to Belén High School in Havana, also operated by the Jesuits. This information is not hard to find.

Lord David Owen, British Foreign Secretary in the late 1970s, has this to say about Mugabe:

”Whatever Robert Mugabe, Zimbabwe's leader, may claim in the coming days, there is no way that the country can have anything like fair and free elections. His ruthlessness became clear to me when, as Foreign Secretary, I was negotiating with him over Rhodesian independence between 1977 and 1979...He was, however, an ideological zealot of Jesuit upbringing, implacable and obdurate.” David Owen, "Mugabe: From secret Jesuit to grieving father to embittered tyrant," The Independent (March 30, 2008).

China is now easing their restrictions on Christianity, even some on the Adventist, however, just recently, it has been highly publicized by many Adventist sources that the Jesuits are disseminating counterfeited and distored copies of sister White’s Great Controversy in an effort to hide the true gospel.

[LifeHiscost]

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Lol, I think that person will be God and he will be saying it to Christians too and "judgement begins at the house of God".

Am I to understand that people who relish the downfall of others will have any place in a kingdom where Love rules?

God cares!

[Hair]

This truly an interesting time that we live in. Its like we have front row seats at the 50 yard line of the Super Bowl of history. But its sort of like a Dave Gallagher show too because we are going to get splattered with some of the mess.

God uses who he wants whether they are good or bad (Nebuchadnezzar etc.) to do his will. Throughout history God has used the Muslims to help keep the Catholic church in check. During the Dark Ages it made it more difficult to focus on "heretics" with the Muslims beating down their door.

I think what we are looking at is just a gearing-up and "healing" of the original scenario, but as we know... this time there's no wilderness to run too when satan sends a flood. Our creator will return, this world will burn, and his kingdom will be on earth as it is in Heaven.

I think soon Protestants, Catholics, and Spiritual people of all walks will come together and form a union against Islam. I can see the hatred and organizing happening daily... God has told us the things we need to know, but we do not know it down to an exact daily detailed science... it will be very interesting to watch it all transpire before our eyes. I think we are at the highpoint of the rollercoaster just before it drops off the first hill. Hang on!!

[Textus Receptus]

This truly an interesting time that we live in. Its like we have front row seats at the 50 yard line of the Super Bowl of history. But its sort of like a Dave Gallagher show too because we are going to get splattered with some of the mess.

God uses who he wants whether they are good or bad (Nebuchadnezzar etc.) to do his will. Throughout history God has used the Muslims to help keep the Catholic church in check. During the Dark Ages it made it more difficult to focus on "heretics" with the Muslims beating down their door.

I think what we are looking at is just a gearing-up and "healing" of the original scenario, but as we know... this time there's no wilderness to run too when satan sends a flood. Our creator will return, this world will burn, and his kingdom will be on earth as it is in Heaven.

I think soon Protestants, Catholics, and Spiritual people of all walks will come together and form a union against Islam. I can see the hatred and organizing happening daily... God has told us the things we need to know, but we do not know it down to an exact daily detailed science... it will be very interesting to watch it all transpire before our eyes. I think we are at the highpoint of the rollercoaster just before it drops off the first hill. Hang on!!

I don't believe that God uses sin for His glory. Nebakanezer was a convert to the 1 true God - not a good example. It is not His character. What God does is allow sin to happen. And just like the great conductor that He makes arraingments to counter act the point. Personally, I don't believe that Islam as powerful as it may seem is nothing more than a tool used for the Vatican's benefit. As in other posts that I have written regarding the subject, there is tremndous evidence that Islam was a creation of the Vatican, and at the central core of Islam, they are under subjugation of the Jesuits and unless you have thouroughly studied how Islam was created, their theology and their connection to the knights Templars, Ismailis, Assasins, visvis their connection to Freemasonry, it is quite difficult to understand them in totality.

http://ivarfjeld.com/2012/04/21/vatican-pope-to-strengthen-special-relations-with-the-plo/

Furthermore, there is strong evidence that the Pope is the high priest of Freemasonry, much has been written with regards to this. For instance, there are numerous pictures of John Paul VI wearing the Ephod which Albert Mackey, a high ranking Freemmason notes in his Encyclopedia of Freemasonry that the Ephod is worn by the High Priest pg. 288.

This may seem like flimsy evidence but if we examine this using the total evidence such as popes using the masonic hand shake when meeting with dignitaries and the research which shows that the Jesuits control Freemasonry, it is plausible then to presume that Islam and all its fires are orchestrated by those who wish to benefit Rome.

[Planey]

...there is tremendous evidence that Islam was a creation of the Vatican

Textus, could you share some of this evidence with us?

Or at least post some links so that we can check for ourselves.

I for one am most interested in this. I had to teach some comparative religious studies at high school level and this does not gibe with the accepted history of Muhammad and the growth of Islam.

Not that makes your story incorrect but I would really like to examine the evidence(s) for myself.

Graeme