Stan Posted August 21, 2005 Share Posted August 21, 2005 DO YOU SEE a difference betweek Jesus as your Saviour, and Jesus as your Lord? Stan Quote If you receive benefit to being here please help out with expenses. https://www.paypal.me/clubadventist Administrator of a few websites like https://adventistdating.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beryl Posted August 22, 2005 Share Posted August 22, 2005 I do see a difference. It is easy to accept Jesus as my Saviour -- He died in my stead, He has promised eternal life, He loves me no matter what,etc. etc. But, when it comes to accepting Jesus as my Lord, it is to say, "Yes, Jesus, I accept the salvation that You have freely provided for me, and so I give back to You my life, recognising You as my Lord. From now on, YOU are in control." That puts a little bit different slant on things! I still like to feel that I am in control! I have to recognise that I am not capable of living the life that He wants me to live unless He controls it. I must fully submit to His will -- and I LIKE being my own boss!! Therein lies the daily struggle. And, thank God, He understands! God bless, Beryl Quote "Grace is God doing for us, in us and through us that which He requires of us but which is impossible for us to do in or for ourselves." But He said to me, "My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness." 2 Cor. 12:9. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cricket Posted August 22, 2005 Share Posted August 22, 2005 Lorship implies the presence of kingdom. Perhaps it's a chivalrous thought, but it is relatively easy to see that the King would also be the Savior. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NormF Posted August 22, 2005 Share Posted August 22, 2005 another spin ... Sometimes I wonder if we haven't got the cart before the horse here? I think absolute #1/prime/uno is recognizing the Father as my maker and my king: He is the Creator, and I am one of his creatures. From that I can enter into a right relationship with Him and live it out. EVERYTHING else derives from that - salvation through Jesus my savior and my brother, my relationships with my fellows, etc. If #1 isn't straight, nothing else works right. If I do have #1 right, including my relationship with the Father, everything else is hard to miss, because He sees to that. I don't mean some form of cheap grace by this though. More nearly, it's just that the Hound of Heaven doesn't take no's (from anyone else) for an answer when it comes to my disposition and development once I give Him a yes to go. In other words, He has a real fine growth plan for now, and plans beyond that so fine I can't even imagine them. I could learn to like that. God is awesome! Regards, Norm Quote Debile fundamentum, fallit opus. - "Where there is a weak foundation, the work falls." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LifeHiscost Posted August 22, 2005 Share Posted August 22, 2005 Quote: NormF said: I think absolute #1/prime/uno is recognizing the Father as my maker and my king Maybe it's like the question, 'Which came first the chicken or the egg." However it does appear there is a necessity that Jesus be recognized as primary for the purposes of meeting the needs of our sinful condition. [:"red"] "All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him." [/] Matthew 11:27 KJV [:"red"] " And the door is opened to everyone who knocks." [/] Matthew 7:8 NLT [:"red"] "Then said Jesus unto them again, Verily, verily, I say unto you, I am the door of the sheep. " [/] John 10:7 KJV Quote Lift Jesus up!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Naomi Posted August 22, 2005 Administrators Share Posted August 22, 2005 Good question Stan. </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr /> Stan Jensen said: DO YOU SEE a difference betweek Jesus as your Saviour, and Jesus as your Lord? Stan <hr /></blockquote><font class="post"> Intellectually KNOWING the difference and emotionally SEEING the difference is easy to confuse. To see Jesus as our brother, mentor, example and one who gave his life for us is easy. Then to accept him as our LORD presents another dimension, denoting a different standard of loyalty, a reason for his demanding that we obey/follow Him. As our LORD he is to be honored, and obeyed. We also have to intellectually and emotionally understand and believe that he is a loving and just Lord, but also a Lord that must be honored in our life, word and deed. As LifeHiscost shared, </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr /> "All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him." Matthew 11:27 KJV " And the door is opened to everyone who knocks." Matthew 7:8 NLT "Then said Jesus unto them again, Verily, verily, I say unto you, I am the door of the sheep. " John 10:7 KJV <hr /></blockquote><font class="post"> If one dwells upon our relationship with The Father, The Son and The Holy Spirit long enough one can come up with many interesting scenarios. However, bottom-line is: Yes, there is a difference. Naomi Quote If your dreams are not big enough to scare you, they are not big enough for God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NormF Posted August 22, 2005 Share Posted August 22, 2005 second spin ... Is MY salvation the #1 concern of the universe? If not, what is? Well, I don't know. Actually, I'm not sure that my salvation is even my #1 concern. But when it comes to me and where I fit in the universe, knowing, and relating to and with, its Maker as He would have me do has to be really high up there. And as I read it, get that done and pretty much everything else lines up to follow. There's reason to believe that's pretty much the bottom line, at least it is for me. Job: "Though he slay me, yet will I trust him." Regards, Norm Quote Debile fundamentum, fallit opus. - "Where there is a weak foundation, the work falls." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clio Posted August 22, 2005 Share Posted August 22, 2005 </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr /> Stan Jensen said: DO YOU SEE a difference betweek Jesus as your Saviour, and Jesus as your Lord? Stan <hr /></blockquote><font class="post"> No, there is no difference in Jesus as my Saviour and Jesus as my Lord. He is. Because He is my Saviour, I love Him. Because I love Him, I seek to please Him, no matter the cost. My life is already forfeit, but in His compassion, wisdom, love, and mercy, He has said, "I Love you. I died for you. Eternal life is yours through Me if you do as I ask. It is a war, a war I have won, but there's still some mopping up to do. If you do as I say, you will avoid the land mines, the booby traps, the insurgent attacks. I long for you to avoid them, but I'm the only one with the map. Here it is, follow it, and live abundantly in Me, even before Heaven." How can there be a difference? There is no difference. Clio <img src="/ubbtreads/images/graemlins/angel1.gif" alt="" /> Quote A heart where He alone has first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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