Neil D Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 Aug. 28 (Bloomberg) -- New Orleans residents were ordered to evacuate the city today as Hurricane Katrina, the strongest storm of the Atlantic season, approached the U.S. Gulf Coast with 160 mile-an-hour winds. Mayor Ray Nagin said only essential personnel and individuals unable to travel can remain in the city of 500,000. He spoke at a press conference. There are 1.3 million people in the greater New Orleans area. Thousands of people already have left the city and other parts of southern Louisiana, Thirty-three of the state's parishes declared a state of emergency, and mandatory evacuations were in place in parts of at least nine of those, according to the Louisiana State Police Web site. About 30,000 people evacuated yesterday, and thousands more are leaving southern parts of the state today, state police spokesman, Lieutenant Lawrence McLeary said in a telephone interview from Baton Rouge, the state capital. Oil companies also evacuated workers from Gulf facilities. Katrina was upgraded to category 5 earlier today, U.S. National Hurricane Center spokesman David Miller said in a telephone interview from Miami. Such storms, with winds greater than 155 miles an hour (249 kph) can tear roofs off homes, blow down all trees and shrubs, and cause flooding. Only three Category Five hurricanes have hit the U.S. since records began. [:"blue"] Rumor has it that there is a low area in NO that threatens to change the course of the Mississippi. Red Cross, it was reported, showed that if a Catagory 5 hurricane came thru NO, the course of the Mississippi would be altered, resulting in 'lots of damage' [this is a bit of an understatement, folks.] A prayer vigil is needed folks. [/] Quote Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be governed no better than we deserve. George Bernard Shaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Naomi Posted August 28, 2005 Administrators Share Posted August 28, 2005 I'm usually there once a month on business, and was scheduled to fly in tomorrow. To say the airlines understood when I called to cancel my flight would be an understatement. A friend who lives in Accession Parish (Up River Road) telephoned earlier and said that Sunshine Bridge is jammed with people attempting to leave the area. This is not in New Orleans proper, but located on the River where what are left of the wonderful old plantation homes are located. Built on the river the "widows walk" has been walked only in memories since the Civil War. Let's hope that no widows have to walk that walk this week. So much of LA is connected by ribbons of bridges. Most are quite old and often in need of repairs. Barges run into them and weaken the structures. After heavy rains the water almost reaches the bridges. I can only imagine what it would be if a category 5 hurricane forced waters into the waterways. <img src="/ubbtreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> LOL Now I sound like a tour guide, but if you haven't visited the area and ever have an opportunity, treat yourself. That is, if Katrina doesn't alter the course too drastically. There is only one other way out of the area, only the old timers use it. She and her mother were headed that direction. She grew up in The Quarter and for several generations her family members own a lot of business and property in the area. Some have chosen to stay. <img src="/ubbtreads/images/graemlins/163860-EmoticonPrayer.gif" alt="" /> Naomi Quote If your dreams are not big enough to scare you, they are not big enough for God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil D Posted August 28, 2005 Author Share Posted August 28, 2005 Quote: There is only one other way out of the area, only the old timers use it. She and her mother were headed that direction. Who is the "she" that you are talking about? I understand that there is a river or river bed and that the Mississippi has desires to flow into that river bed [don't know the name of it] as it is lower than the surrounding area....Right? Quote Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be governed no better than we deserve. George Bernard Shaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mariann Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 Live news.. http://www.wwltv.com/perl/common/video/wmPlayer.pl?title=beloint_wwltv&props=livenoad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Beach Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 This is the most severe weather warning Mrs. Gray has ever read. Almost seems apocalyptic. WWUS74 KLIX 281550NPWLIXURGENT - WEATHER MESSAGE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NEW ORLEANS LA 1011 AM CDT SUN AUG 28 2005 DEVASTATING DAMAGE EXPECTED HURRICANE KATRINAA MOST POWERFUL HURRICANE WITH UNPRECEDENTED STRENGTH...RIVALING THE INTENSITY OF HURRICANE CAMILLE OF 1969. MOST OF THE AREA WILL BE UNINHABITABLE FOR WEEKS...PERHAPS LONGER. ATLEAST ONE HALF OF WELL CONSTRUCTED HOMES WILL HAVE ROOF AND WALL FAILURE. ALL GABLED ROOFS WILL FAIL...LEAVING THOSE HOMES SEVERELY DAMAGED OR DESTROYED.THE MAJORITY OF INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS WILL BECOME NON FUNCTIONAL.PARTIAL TO COMPLETE WALL AND ROOF FAILURE IS EXPECTED. ALL WOOD FRAMED LOW RISING APARTMENT BUILDINGS WILL BE DESTROYED. CONCRETE BLOCK LOW RISE APARTMENTS WILL SUSTAIN MAJOR DAMAGE...INCLUDING SOME WALL AND ROOF FAILURE. HIGH RISE OFFICE AND APARTMENT BUILDINGS WILL SWAY DANGEROUSLY...A FEW TO THE POINT OF TOTAL COLLAPSE. ALL WINDOWS WILL BLOW OUT. AIRBORNE DEBRIS WILL BE WIDESPREAD...AND MAY INCLUDE HEAVY ITEMS SUCH AS HOUSEHOLD APPLIANCES AND EVEN LIGHT VEHICLES. SPORT UTILITY VEHICLES AND LIGHT TRUCKS WILL BE MOVED. THE BLOWN DEBRIS WILL CREATEADDITIONAL DESTRUCTION. PERSONS...PETS... AND LIVESTOCK EXPOSED TO THE WINDS WILL FACE CERTAIN DEATH IF STRUCK. POWER OUTAGES WILL LAST FOR WEEKS...AS MOST POWER POLES WILL BE DOWN AND TRANSFORMERS DESTROYED. WATER SHORTAGES WILL MAKE HUMAN SUFFERING INCREDIBLE BY MODERN STANDARDS.THE VAST MAJORITY OF NATIVE TREES WILL BE SNAPPED OR UPROOTED. ONLY THE HEARTIEST WILL REMAIN STANDING... BUT BE TOTALLY DEFOLIATED. FEWCROPS WILL REMAIN. LIVESTOCK LEFT EXPOSED TO THE WINDS WILL BEKILLED.AN INLAND HURRICANE WIND WARNING IS ISSUED WHEN SUSTAINED WINDS NEARHURRICANE FORCE...OR FREQUENT GUSTS AT OR ABOVE HURRICANE FORCE.. .ARECERTAIN WITHIN THE NEXT 12 TO 24 HOURS.ONCE TROPICAL STORM AND HURRICANE FORCE WINDS ONSET...DO NOT VENTUREOUTSIDE!LAZ038-040-050-056>070-282100-ASSUMPTION-LIVINGSTON-LOWER JEFFERSON-LOWER LAFOURCHE-LOWER PLAQUEMINES-LOWER ST. BERNARD-LOWER TERREBONNE-ORLEANS-ST. CHARLES-ST. JAMES-ST. JOHN THE BAPTIST-ST. TAMMANY-TANGIPAHOA-UPPER JEFFERSON-UPPER LAFOURCHE-UPPER PLAQUEMINES-UPPER ST. BERNARD-UPPER TERREBONNE-1011 AM CDT SUN AUG 28 2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Shane Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 Most of the buildings built along the coast are built for a cat 4 hurricane. However the huricane will quickly drop from cat. 5 to cat. 4 once it hits. If they get lucky it will hit a cold patch of water in the Gulf and drop before it makes landfall. Once it drops to cat. 4 most of the buildings in its path should do ok since they should be built for those types of winds. Flooding is going to be the major problem. There is too much low land and no where for it to drain to. Quote Pastoral Family Counselor... Find me at www.PostumCafe.com Author of Peculiar Christianity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amelia Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 000 WTUS84 KLIX 281903 HLSLIX LAZ038-040-050-056>070-MSZ080>082-282230- HURRICANE KATRINA LOCAL STATEMENT NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NEW ORLEANS LA 200 PM CDT SUN AUG 28 2005 ...DIRECT STRIKE OF POTENTIALLY CATASTROPHIC AND LIFE THREATENING HURRICANE EXPECTED... ...RUSH PROTECTIVE MEASURES TO COMPLETION AND LEAVE THE WARNING AREA NOW!... ...HURRICANE WARNING IN EFFECT FOR SOUTHEAST LOUISIANA AND COASTAL MISSISSIPPI FROM MORGAN CITY EAST TO THE ALABAMA FLORIDA BORDER.... ...DANGEROUS HURRICANE KATRINA MOVING WEST NORTHWEST IN THE GULF OF MEXICO... ...AREAS AFFECTED... IN SOUTHEAST LOUISIANA...THE FOLLOWING PARISHES ASSUMPTION...ST JAMES...ST JOHN THE BAPTIST...ST CHARLES... ST BERNARD...TERREBONNE...ORLEANS...JEFFERSON...PLAQUEMINE... LAFOURCHE...ST TAMMANY...TANGIPAHOA...LIVINGSTON. IN COASTAL MISSISSIPPI...THE FOLLOWING COUNTIES HANCOCK...HARRISON...JACKSON ...WATCHES AND WARNINGS... A HURRICANE WARNING IS IN EFFECT FROM EAST OF MORGAN CITY EAST TO THE ALABAMA-FLORIDA BORDER AREA. THIS INCLUDES THE METRO NEW ORLEANS AREA...AND THE MISSISSIPPI COAST. ...STORM INFORMATION... AT 100 PM CDT...THE CENTER OF HURRICANE KATRINA WAS LOCATED NEAR LATITUDE 26.5 NORTH...LONGITUDE 88.6 WEST OR ABOUT 225 MILES SOUTHEAST OF THE MOUTH OF THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS ARE NEAR 175 MPH...WITH HIGHER GUSTS. HURRICANE KATRINA IS A CATEGORY FIVE HURRICANE ON THE SAFFIR SIMPSON SCALE. SOME MINOR FLUCTUATIONS IN STRENGTH IS POSSIBLE DURING THE NEXT 24 HOURS. HOWEVER...KATRINA IS EXPECTED TO MAKE LANDFALL AT A CATEGORY 5 HURRICANE PACKING SUSTAINED 160 MPH WINDS. HURRICANE KATRINA IS MOVING TOWARD THE WEST-NORTHWEST NEAR 12 MPH AND A GRADUAL TURN TOWARD THE NORTHWEST IS EXPECTED LATER TODAY. ...PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS... PROTECT YOU AND YOUR FAMILY. FOLLOW LOCAL EMERGENCY MANAGERS RECOMMENDATIONS AND LEAVE HURRICANE WARNING AREA NOW BEFORE WEATHER CONDITIONS WORSEN. RESIDENTS OF SOUTHEAST LOUISIANA AND COASTAL MISSISSIPPI SHOULD RUSH PREPARATIONS FOR THE LANDFALL OF A CATASTROPHIC HURRICANE LATER TONIGHT AND EARLY MONDAY...WITH DAMAGING HURRICANE FORCE WINDS AND HIGH STORM SURGE. MANDATORY EVACUATION ORDERS ARE IN EFFECT FOR MOST OF SOUTHEAST LOUISIANA PARISHES AND COASTAL MISSISSIPPI COUNTIES. RESIDENTS SHOULD FOLLOW EVACUATION RECOMMENDATIONS FROM LOCAL OFFICIALS. ...STORM SURGE FLOOD AND STORM TIDE IMPACTS... KATRINA IS EXPECTED TO MAKE LANDFALL ALONG THE NORTHERN GULF OF MEXICO COAST AS A CATASTROPHIC LIFE THREATENING HURRICANE. WHILE EXACT LOCATION LANDFALL IS UNCERTAIN AT THIS TIME...SIGNIFICANT AND LIFE THREATENING STORM SURGE 18 TO 22 FEET ABOVE NORMAL IS POSSIBLE NEAR AND TO THE RIGHT OF THE LANDFALL AREA. A FEW AREAS MAY EXPERIENCE STORM SURGE FLOODING AS HIGH AS 25 FEET ALONG WITH LARGE AND DANGEROUS BATTERING WAVES NEAR AND TO THE EAST OF WHERE THE CENTER MAKES LANDFALL. RESIDENTS IN AREAS PRONE TO STORM SURGE FLOODING SHOULD LEAVE NOW! HEED EVACUATION RECOMMENDATION FROM LOCAL EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT OFFICIALS. SECONDARY ROADS OUTSIDE LEVEE PROTECTION WILL LIKELY BECOME IMPASSABLE THIS EVENING AND TONIGHT. ...WIND IMPACTS... EAST TO NORTHEAST WIND OF 20 TO 30 MPH SHOULD CONTINUE OVER THE REGION...THEN INCREASE LATE THIS AFTERNOON AND CONTINUING TONIGHT. TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS ARE LIKELY TO OVERSPREAD THE COASTAL AREAS LATE THIS AFTERNOON THE REMAINDER OF THE AREA THIS EVENING. HURRICANE FORCE WINDS ARE LIKELY TO BEGIN BY MIDNIGHT AND MOVE INLAND MONDAY MORNING AND AFTERNOON. KATRINA IS FORECAST TO MOVE ASHORE AS CATEGORY FIVE HURRICANE... SIMILAR IN STRENGTH TO HURRICANE CAMILLE IN 1969. WINDS ASSOCIATED CATEGORY 4 AND CATEGORY 5 HURRICANE CAN TOTALLY DESTROY MOBILE HOMES...AND WEAKEN CAUSE MAJOR DAMAGE TO EVEN WELL CONSTRUCTED BUILDINGS. HIGHER WIND SPEEDS ARE LIKELY TO BE EXPERIENCED ON UPPER FLOORS OF TALL BUILDINGS CAUSING DAMAGE. ...TORNADOES... THE THREAT FOR TORNADOES WILL DEVELOP OVER EXTREME SOUTHEAST LOUISIANA AND COASTAL MISSISSIPPI LATE TONIGHT AND MONDAY MORNING. ...RAINFALL... RAINFALL TOTALS OF 8 TO 10 INCHES...WITH ISOLATED MAXIMUM AMOUNTS OF 15 INCHES...ARE POSSIBLE NORTH AND SOUTH OF LAKE PONTCHARTRAIN AND THE MISSISSIPPI COAST. ...NEXT UPDATE... THE NEXT LOCAL STATEMENT WILL BE ISSUED AROUND 530 PM CDT. Quote <p><span style="color:#0000FF;"><span style="font-weight:bold;"><span style="font-style:italic;">"Do not use harmful words, but only helpful words, the kind that build up and provide what is needed, so that what you say will do good to those who hear you."</span></span> Eph 4:29</span><br><br><img src="http://banners.wunderground.com/weathersticker/gizmotimetemp_both/US/OR/Fairview.gif" alt="Fairview.gif"> Fairview Or</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amelia Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 []http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2005/WEATHER/08/28/hurricane.katrina/top.1728.katrina.animate.gif[/] Quote <p><span style="color:#0000FF;"><span style="font-weight:bold;"><span style="font-style:italic;">"Do not use harmful words, but only helpful words, the kind that build up and provide what is needed, so that what you say will do good to those who hear you."</span></span> Eph 4:29</span><br><br><img src="http://banners.wunderground.com/weathersticker/gizmotimetemp_both/US/OR/Fairview.gif" alt="Fairview.gif"> Fairview Or</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amelia Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 [:"blue"]The Deadliest Hurricane [/] Galveston, Texas September 1900 Death toll: 8,000-12,000 estimated The deadliest natural disaster in U.S. history, the Galveston hurricane of 1900 is estimated to have killed between 8,000 and 12,000 people. The Category 4 hurricane struck on September 8, 1900, leveling 12 city blocks, nearly three-quarters of the island city of Galveston, Texas. [:"blue"]The Most Expensive Hurricane [/] Hurricane Andrew Southeast Florida and Louisiana August 1992 Cost: $26.5 billion Andrew cut a path through the northwestern Bahamas, the southern Florida peninsula and south-central Louisiana. Andrew came ashore in on August 24, 1992, near Homestead, Florida, resulting in 26 deaths. More than 700,000 insurance claims were filed relating to Andrew. Initially rated a Category 4 storm, it was later upgraded to Category 5 status. [:"blue"]The Most Intense Hurricane [/] Florida Keys September 1935 The most powerful recorded storm to strike the continental United States, this Category 5 hurricane -- called the "Great Labor Day" hurricane -- had 26.35 inches of pressure at landfall. [:"blue"] [/] Quote <p><span style="color:#0000FF;"><span style="font-weight:bold;"><span style="font-style:italic;">"Do not use harmful words, but only helpful words, the kind that build up and provide what is needed, so that what you say will do good to those who hear you."</span></span> Eph 4:29</span><br><br><img src="http://banners.wunderground.com/weathersticker/gizmotimetemp_both/US/OR/Fairview.gif" alt="Fairview.gif"> Fairview Or</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amelia Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr /> A NOAA HURRICANE HUNTER PLANE REPORTED A MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE OF 902 MB...26.64 INCHES. <hr /></blockquote><font class="post"> Quote <p><span style="color:#0000FF;"><span style="font-weight:bold;"><span style="font-style:italic;">"Do not use harmful words, but only helpful words, the kind that build up and provide what is needed, so that what you say will do good to those who hear you."</span></span> Eph 4:29</span><br><br><img src="http://banners.wunderground.com/weathersticker/gizmotimetemp_both/US/OR/Fairview.gif" alt="Fairview.gif"> Fairview Or</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Naomi Posted August 29, 2005 Administrators Share Posted August 29, 2005 </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr /> Neil D said: Who is the "she" that you are talking about? <hr /></blockquote><font class="post"> Sorry about being so vauge. "She" is a dear friend by the name of Kay. Her mother is 82 and 3 weeks ago was released from the hospital after having a serious heart attack. <hr /></blockquote><font class="post"> I understand that there is a river or river bed and that the Mississippi has desires to flow into that river bed [don't know the name of it] as it is lower than the surrounding area....Right? <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">The Mighty Missippi does seem to flow where it desires in it's travel to the coast. New Orleans itself is very low and has been "sinking" for a long time. The water table is so high that they can only bury people above ground. Another friend called who is a paramedic and needless to say, he is there for the duration. Spoke to another friend who lives in Kenner (just outside of New Orleans) he and his family are stuck in traffic. The winds are already strong. My broker/rep called from her cell phone. They have three children, one is a 3 month old baby. They have been in traffic for several hours and are still not out of the city. Friends in Beaumont, TX tell me that their city is crowded with people who came that direction to escape. I understand that Lake Charles, LA (just across the river from Texas have people on the exits advising people to continue into Texas to less overcrowded, safer areas. Everyone says the same thing, "This is the big one that we've been expecting for years." <img src="/ubbtreads/images/graemlins/163860-EmoticonPrayer.gif" alt="" /> Quote If your dreams are not big enough to scare you, they are not big enough for God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Shane Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 I read they are putting the homeless and poor that can't leave the city into the Superdome. I hope it is on high ground. It must be if that is where they are putting people. Quote Pastoral Family Counselor... Find me at www.PostumCafe.com Author of Peculiar Christianity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Naomi Posted August 29, 2005 Administrators Share Posted August 29, 2005 The SuperDome & Convention center are both being used. They are probably as high as you can get in New Orleans. Located on Lake Ponchatrain (spelling may be incorrect) which is on the opposite side of town where the eye is "guestimated" to reach landfall. The Dome & Convention Center are one of my most recent large accounts. We only finished installing a lot of equipment; they are close together. I was going this week to inspect the final work. Hope everything works as it should, and the people staying there can benefit. I would not want to be in the Dome or Convention Center during this event. It is most definitely better than in other areas of town. One of my friends owns a business a couple of blocks from the Dome and her home is in an area nearby. She and her family managed to get out earlier today. Let's hope that this is not surrounded by tornados. Naomi Quote If your dreams are not big enough to scare you, they are not big enough for God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Shane Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 Tornados are normally on the south side of the storm. Quote Pastoral Family Counselor... Find me at www.PostumCafe.com Author of Peculiar Christianity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amelia Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 I just heard that they are expecting water up to 4 stories in the French Quater. Quote <p><span style="color:#0000FF;"><span style="font-weight:bold;"><span style="font-style:italic;">"Do not use harmful words, but only helpful words, the kind that build up and provide what is needed, so that what you say will do good to those who hear you."</span></span> Eph 4:29</span><br><br><img src="http://banners.wunderground.com/weathersticker/gizmotimetemp_both/US/OR/Fairview.gif" alt="Fairview.gif"> Fairview Or</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Shane Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 I was just listening to a Major on a reconiassance plane report live from inside the storm. Sustained winds still at 160 mph. The eye of the storm is 30 miles in diameter. There is a lot of tonado activity on the east side of the storm. The French Quarters are 9 miles below sea level. It is expected that tomorrow between 50%-70% of New Orleans will be under water. This is the third storm this size in the history of the United States. Quote Pastoral Family Counselor... Find me at www.PostumCafe.com Author of Peculiar Christianity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amelia Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 Posted: 7:30 p.m. ET New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin on WWL-AM a few minutes ago, says: Seventy-five percent to 80 percent of people have evacuated -- 30,000 people have evacuated to the Louisianan Superdome (the primary evacuation site). Last bus left for dome at 6 p.m. local time. If people still need to get there, they will accommodate. "We are in lockdown mode now." "The worst will be after the storm passes through." Posted: 7:36 p.m. ET Mayor Ray Nagin told folks to make sure they fill their upstairs bathtubs with water, and in case of real trouble, make sure you have a way of hacking through your roof -- so you are not trapped by rising water. Quote <p><span style="color:#0000FF;"><span style="font-weight:bold;"><span style="font-style:italic;">"Do not use harmful words, but only helpful words, the kind that build up and provide what is needed, so that what you say will do good to those who hear you."</span></span> Eph 4:29</span><br><br><img src="http://banners.wunderground.com/weathersticker/gizmotimetemp_both/US/OR/Fairview.gif" alt="Fairview.gif"> Fairview Or</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Shane Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr /> make sure you have a way of hacking through your roof -- so you are not trapped by rising water. <hr /></blockquote><font class="post"> Not much comfort there <img src="/ubbtreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" /> Quote Pastoral Family Counselor... Find me at www.PostumCafe.com Author of Peculiar Christianity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amelia Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 Katrina may be 'our Asian tsunami' (CNN) -- Flooding expected from Hurricane Katrina could wreak catastrophe on New Orleans, overwhelming its water and sewage systems, damaging its structures and leaving survivors in a bowl of toxic soup, a top hurricane expert said Sunday. Landfall is expected early Monday. (Latest report) "We need to recognize we may be about to experience our equivalent of the Asian tsunami, in terms of the damage and the numbers of people that can be killed," said Ivor van Heerden, director of the Louisiana State University Public Health Research Center in Baton Rouge. Some 25 feet of standing water is expected in many parts of the city -- almost twice the height of the average home -- and computer models suggest that more than 80 percent of buildings would be badly damaged or destroyed, he said. Floodwaters from the east will carry toxic waste from the "Industrial Canal" area, nicknamed after the chemical plants there. From the west, floodwaters would flow through the Norco Destrehan Industrial Complex, which includes refineries and chemical plants, said van Heerden, who has studied computer models about the impact of a strong hurricane for four years. "These chemical plants are going to start flying apart, just as the other buildings do," he predicted. "So, we have the potential for release of benzene, hydrochloric acid, chlorine and so on." That could result in severe air and water pollution, he said. In New Orleans, which lies below sea level, gas and diesel tanks are all located above ground for the same reason that bodies are buried above ground. In the event of a flood, "those tanks will start to float, shear their couplings, and we'll have the release of these rather volatile compounds," van Heerden added. Because gasoline floats on water, "we could end up with some pretty severe and large -- area-wise -- fires." "So, we're looking at a bowl full of highly contaminated water with contaminated air flowing around and, literally, very few places for anybody to go where they'll be safe." He went further. "So, imagine you're the poor person who decides not to evacuate: Your house will disintegrate around you. The best you'll be able to do is hang on to a light pole, and while you're hanging on, the fire ants from all the mounds -- of which there is two per yard on average -- will clamber up that same pole. And, eventually, the fire ants will win." The levees intended to protect the city vary in height, from as low as 10 feet above sea level to about 14 feet, he said. They too are vulnerable, because they are made of earth, he said. Disaster waiting to happen Previous studies have suggested a catastrophic toll in lives and property if a major hurricane were to hit the New Orleans area, where about 1.3 million people live. Walter Maestri, the emergency management chief in neighboring Jefferson Parish, said Hurricane Georges in 1998 could have killed as many as 44,000 people had it struck the city directly. "The way it's described, we describe it here, is Lake Pontchartrain has now become Lake New Orleans," he told CNN in 2004. Van Heerden said levees built to protect New Orleans from Lake Pontchartrain could be buffeted by waves from the lake, which is about 23 miles by 35 miles in area. "You're going to have enormous waves develop on that lake, especially with as much as 14 hours of hurricane-force winds." Those waves will erode the levees, raising the possibility of their collapse, he said. "This is what we've been saying has been going to happen for years," he said. "Unfortunately, it's coming true." Rick Luettich, a professor at the University of North Carolina's Institute of Marine Sciences, compared Katrina's expected impact on areas far up the Mississippi to "grabbing the end of the bed cover and giving it a hard snap." That snap will push "probably in excess of 10 feet" of floodwater up the river, he predicted. "It will propagate up the river like a wave," past Baton Rouge, more than 70 miles away, he said. For 15 years, Luettich has been developing a hydrodynamic circulation model -- called AdCirc -- that he said the Federal Emergency Management Agency has endorsed to help emergency managers predict storm damage. Apologizing for the possibility that his comment could be interpreted as somewhat ghoulish, he said, "This is, in some ways, a little bit exciting for us, because it's a real opportunity to test this technology we've developed and see how well it works." Quote <p><span style="color:#0000FF;"><span style="font-weight:bold;"><span style="font-style:italic;">"Do not use harmful words, but only helpful words, the kind that build up and provide what is needed, so that what you say will do good to those who hear you."</span></span> Eph 4:29</span><br><br><img src="http://banners.wunderground.com/weathersticker/gizmotimetemp_both/US/OR/Fairview.gif" alt="Fairview.gif"> Fairview Or</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planey Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 Quote: Shane said: The French Quarters are 9 miles below sea level. Are you sure? While I live on the other side of the world and have never been close to the good ol' U.S. of A. this seems highly improbable data. 9 miles is over 47 500 feet, so you could fit Mt Everest into that hole more than one and a half times. I have heard of low-lying areas but that seems ridiculous. Graeme Quote Graeme____________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Shane Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 Yes Graeme, that was a typo <img src="/ubbtreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> It is 9 feet not 9 miles below sea level. It seems the storm weakened a bit down to a cat. 4 storm just before landfall. That is not uncommon as it approaches swallower waters and sometimes cooler ones. It is very good news for the area as most of the structures should be built to withstand cat. 4 storms. The big issue will be flooding. Quote Pastoral Family Counselor... Find me at www.PostumCafe.com Author of Peculiar Christianity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amelia Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 Shane just has his feet and miles mixed. New Orleans Facts and Statistics </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr /> Depending on what part of town you are in, you can be from 5-10 feet below sea level. <hr /></blockquote><font class="post"> Quote <p><span style="color:#0000FF;"><span style="font-weight:bold;"><span style="font-style:italic;">"Do not use harmful words, but only helpful words, the kind that build up and provide what is needed, so that what you say will do good to those who hear you."</span></span> Eph 4:29</span><br><br><img src="http://banners.wunderground.com/weathersticker/gizmotimetemp_both/US/OR/Fairview.gif" alt="Fairview.gif"> Fairview Or</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amelia Posted August 30, 2005 Share Posted August 30, 2005 Gas prices expected to raise 15-20 cents a gal by the end of this week due to Katrina. Quote <p><span style="color:#0000FF;"><span style="font-weight:bold;"><span style="font-style:italic;">"Do not use harmful words, but only helpful words, the kind that build up and provide what is needed, so that what you say will do good to those who hear you."</span></span> Eph 4:29</span><br><br><img src="http://banners.wunderground.com/weathersticker/gizmotimetemp_both/US/OR/Fairview.gif" alt="Fairview.gif"> Fairview Or</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Administrators Naomi Posted August 30, 2005 Administrators Share Posted August 30, 2005 I have had a couple of calls from people in the area ... it's really a sad situation. All circuits are usually busy. Quote If your dreams are not big enough to scare you, they are not big enough for God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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