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...or can be claimed to be on flimsy evidence, their crime is attributed to the whole religion.

When they are racist or misogynist or Christian, their crime is attributed to them as individuals.

It's a double standard and is the epitome of prejudice and stereotyping.

The real explanation, in both cases, is no doubt a combination of individual psychopathology and ideology.

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...or can be claimed to be on flimsy evidence, their crime is attributed to the whole religion.

When they are racist or misogynist or Christian, their crime is attributed to them as individuals.

It's a double standard and is the epitome of prejudice and stereotyping.

The real explanation, in both cases, is no doubt a combination of individual psychopathology and ideology.

11Let such a person consider this, that what we are in word by letters when absent, such persons we are also in deed when present. 12For we are not bold to class or compare ourselves with some of those who commend themselves; But when they measure themselves by themselves and compare themselves with themselves, they are without understanding. 13But we will not boast beyond our measure, but within the measure of the sphere which God apportioned to us as a measure, to reach even as far as you.…2 Corinthians

Thank you Lord, that I'm not like one of those, or even like this publican.................

Are we better than they? Not at all; for we have already charged that both Jews and Greeks are all under sin; 10as it is written, "THERE IS NONE RIGHTEOUS, NOT EVEN ONE; 11THERE IS NONE WHO UNDERSTANDS, THERE IS NONE WHO SEEKS FOR GOD;…Romans 3 Emphasis theirs'  LHC

God is Love!  Jesus saves!  :D

Lift Jesus up!!

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You don't think it's fair to suspect that there might be something inherent to a religion founded by a warlord that provokes its followers to violence more frequently than can be explained by mental illness?

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Judeo-Christianity? (have a read: Abraham was a warlord)

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Is the Bible littered with Abraham's military instructions?  False comparison.

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The only use of force that Abraham is recorded as using was a hostage rescue. I would guess that in the culture of the day he was doing a legitimate police action. It was done in concert with people of different religions from him. In general Abraham was a very mild person. He was not spreading his religion. He practised his religion very discretely.

So I would suggest that calling Abraham a warlord to compare him to Mohammed is not offering much insight. Or were you thinking something else, Bravus?

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This is just a response to your parenthesis. I heartily agree with the OP. We need to assess every criminal as an individual. It may be the case that certain communities need greater surveillance, but each actual case should be assessed on its own merits.

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Yeah, the Abraham thing was a slightly flip response to a predictable comment.
 It doesn't really stand up.

 

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Yeah, the Abraham thing was a slightly flip response to a predictable comment.
 It doesn't really stand up.

 

Maybe this is a clue. All done in the name of Islam

 

 

For anyone wondering about the history of deadly Islamic terror on American soil in the last 45 years, here’s what we could find:

 

Date Country City/State Killed Injured Description
4/14/1972 USA New York, NY 1 3 Ten members of a local mosque phone in a false alarm and then ambush responding officers, killing one.
1/19/1973 USA Brooklyn, NY 1 1 Muslim extremists rob a sporting goods store for weapons, gunning down a police officer who responds to the alarm.
7/1/1973 USA Bethesda, MD 1 0 An Israeli diplomat is gunned down in his driveway by Palestinian terrorists.
7/18/1973 USA Washington, DC 8 2 Nation of Islam members shoot seven members of a family to death in cold blood, including four children. A defendant in the case is later murdered in prison on orders from Elijah Muhammad.
10/19/1973 USA Oakland, CA 1 1 Nation of Islam terrorists kidnap a couple and nearly decapitate the man, while raping and leaving the woman for dead.
10/29/1973 USA Berkeley, CA 1 0 A woman is shot repeatedly in the face by Nation of Islam terrorists.
11/25/1973 USA Oakland, CA 1 0 A grocer is killed in his store by Nation of Islam terrorists.
12/11/1973 USA Oakland, CA 1 0 A man is killed by Nation of Islam terrorists while using a phone booth.
12/13/1973 USA Oakland, CA 1 0 A woman is shot to death on the sidewalk by Nation of Islam terrorists.
12/20/1973 USA Oakland, CA 1 0 Nation of Islam terrorists gun down an 81-year-old janitor.
12/22/1973 USA Oakland, CA 2 0 Nation of Islam terrorist kills two people in separate attacks on the same day.
12/24/1973 USA Oakland, CA 1 0 A man is kidnapped, tortured and decapitated by Nation of Islam terrorists.
1/24/1974 USA Oakland, CA 4 1 Five vicious shooting attacks by Nation of Islam terrorists leave three people dead and one paralyzed for life. Three of the victims were women.
4/1/1974 USA Oakland, CA 1 1 A Nation of Islam terrorist shoots at two Salvation Army members, killing a man and injuring a woman.
4/16/1974 USA Ingleside, CA 1 0 A man is killed while helping a friend move by Nation of Islam terrorists.
3/9/1977 USA Washington, DC 1 1 Hanifi Muslims storm three buildings including a B'nai B'rith to hold 134 people hostage. At least two innocents were shot and one died.
7/22/1980 USA Bethesda, MD 1 0 A political dissident is shot and killed in front of his home by an Iranian agent who was an American convert to Islam.
8/31/1980 USA Savou, IL 2 0 An Iranian student guns down his next-door neighbors, a husband and wife.
11/6/1989 USA St. Louis, MO 1 0 A 17-year-old girl is stabbed to death by her parents for bringing 'dishonor' to their family by dating an 'infidel' African-American.
1/31/1990 USA Tuscon, AZ 1 0 A Sunni cleric is assassinated in front of a Tuscon mosque after declaring that two verses of the Qur'an were invalid.
11/5/1990 USA New York City, NY 1 0 An Israeli rabbi is shot to death by a Muslim attacker at a hotel.
1/25/1993 USA Langley, VA 2 3 A Pakistani with Mujahideen ties guns down two CIA agents outside of the headquarters.
2/26/1993 USA New York, NY 6 1040 Islamic terrorists detonate a massive truck bomb under the World Trade Center, killing six people and injuring over 1,000 in an effort to collapse the towers.
3/1/1994 USA Brooklyn, NY 1 0 A Muslim gunman targets a van packed with Jewish boys, killing a 16-year-old.
3/23/1997 USA New York, NY 1 6 A Palestinian leaves an anti-Jewish suicide note behind and travels to the top of the Empire State building where he shoot seven people in a Fedayeen attack.
4/3/1997 USA Lompoc, CA 1 0 A prison guard is stabbed to death by a radical Muslim.
3/17/2000 USA Atlanta, GA 1 1 A local imam and Muslim spiritual leader guns down a deputy sheriff and injures his partner.
9/11/2001 USA Shanksville, PA 40 0 Forty passengers are killed after Islamic radicals hijack the plane in an attempt to steer it into the U.S. Capitol building.
9/11/2001 USA Washington, DC 184 53 Nearly 200 people are killed when Islamic hijackers steer a plane full of people into the Pentagon.
9/11/2001 USA New York, NY 2752 251 Islamic hijackers steer two planes packed with fuel and passengers into the World Trade Center, killing hundreds on impact and eventually killing thousands when the towers collapsed. At least 200 are seriously injured.
3/19/2002 USA Tuscon, AZ 1 0 A 60-year-old man is gunned down by Muslim snipers on a golf course.
5/27/2002 USA Denton, TX 1 0 Muslim snipers kill a man as he works in his yard.
7/4/2002 USA Los Angeles, CA 2 0 Muslim man pulls out a gun at the counter of an Israeli airline and kills two people.
9/5/2002 USA Clinton, MD 1 0 A 55-year-old pizzaria owner is shot six times in the back by Muslims at close range.
9/21/2002 USA Montgomery, AL 1 1 Muslim snipers shoot two women, killing one.
9/23/2002 USA Baton Rouge, LA 1 0 A Korean mother is shot in the back by Muslim snipers.
10/2/2002 USA Wheaton, MD 1 0 Muslim snipers gun down a program analyst in a store parking lot.
10/3/2002 USA Montgomery County, MD 5 0 Muslim snipers kill three men and two women in separate attacks over a 15-hour period.
10/9/2002 USA Manassas, VA 1 1 A man is killed by Muslim snipers while pumping gas two days after a 13-year-old is wounded by the same team.
10/11/2002 USA Fredericksburg, VA 1 0 Another man is killed by Muslim snipers while pumping gas.
10/14/2002 USA Arlington, VA 1 0 A woman is killed by Muslim snipers in a Home Depot parking lot.
10/22/2002 USA Aspen Hill, MD 1 0 A bus driver is killed by Muslim snipers.
8/6/2003 USA Houston, TX 1 0 After undergoing a 'religious revival', a Saudi college student slashes the throat of a Jewish student with a 4" butterfly knife, nearly decapitating the young man.
12/2/2003 USA Chicago, IL 1 0 A Muslim doctor deliberately allows a Jewish patient to die from an easily treatable condition.
4/13/2004 USA Raleigh, NC 1 4 An angry Muslim runs down five strangers with a car.
4/15/2004 USA Scottsville, NY 1 2 In an honor killing, a Muslim father kills his wife and attacks his two daughters with a knife and hammer because he feared that they had been sexually molested.
6/16/2006 USA Baltimore, MD 1 0 A 62-year-old Jewish moviegoer is shot to death by a Muslim medical student in an unprovoked terror attack.
6/25/2006 USA Denver, CO 1 5 Saying that it was 'Allah's choice', a Muslim shoots four of his co-workers and a police officer.
7/28/2006 USA Seattle, WA 1 5 An 'angry' Muslim-American uses a young girl as hostage to enter a local Jewish center, where he shoots six women, one of whom dies.
1/1/2008 USA Irving, TX 2 0 A Muslim immigrant shoots his two daughters to death on concerns about their 'Western' lifestyle.
7/6/2008 USA Jonesboro, GA 1 0 A devout Muslim strangles his 25-year-old daughter in an honor killing.
2/12/2009 USA Buffalo, NY 1 0 The founder of a Muslim TV station beheads his wife in the hallway for seeking a divorce.
4/12/2009 USA Phoenix, AZ 2 0 A man shoots his brother-in-law and another man to death after finding out that they visited a strip club, in contradiction to Islamic values.
6/1/2009 USA Little Rock, AR 1 1 A Muslim shoots a local soldier to death inside a recruiting center explicitly in the name of Allah.
11/2/2009 USA Glendale, AZ 1 1 A woman dies from injuries suffered when her father runs her down with a car for being too 'Westernized.' (10-20-09)
11/5/2009 USA Ft. Hood, TX 13 31 A Muslim psychiatrist guns down thirteen unarmed soldiers while yelling praises to Allah.
12/4/2009 USA Binghamton, NY 1 0 A non-Muslim Islamic studies professor is stabbed to death by a Muslim grad student in revenge for 'persecuted' Muslims.
4/14/2010 USA Marquette Park, IL 5 2 After quarrelling with his wife over Islamic dress, a Muslim convert shoots his family members to 'take them back to Allah' and out of the 'world of sinners'.
4/30/2011 USA Warren, MI 1 0 A 20-year-old woman is shot in the head by her stepfather for not adhering to Islamic practices.
9/11/2011 USA Waltham, MA 3 0 Three Jewish men have their throats slashed by Muslim terrorists.
1/15/2012 USA Houston, TX 1 0 A 30-year-old Christian convert is shot to death by a devout Muslim for helping to convert his daughter.
11/12/2012 USA Houston, TX 1 0 A 28-year-old American man is shot to death by a conservative Muslim over an alleged role in converting a woman to Christianity.
2/7/2013 USA Buena Vista, NJ 2 0 A Muslim targets and beheads two Christian Coptic immigrants.
3/24/2013 USA Ashtabula, OH 1 0 A Muslim convert walks into a church service with a Quran and guns down his Christian father while praising Allah.
4/15/2013 USA Boston, MA 3 264 Foreign-born Muslims describing themselves as 'very religious' detonate two bombs packed with ball bearings at the Boston Marathon, killing three people and causing several more to lose limbs.
4/19/2013 USA Boston, MA 1 1 Jihadists gun down a university police officer sitting in his car.
8/4/2013 USA Richmond, CA 1 0 A convert "on a mission from Allah" stabs a store clerk to death.
3/6/2014 USA Port Bolivar, TX 2 0 A Muslim man shoots his lesbian daughter and her lover to death and leaves a copy of the Quran open to a page condemning homosexuality.
4/27/2014 USA Skyway, WA 1 0 A 30-year-old man is murdered by a Muslim fanatic.
6/1/2014 USA Seattle, WA 2 0 Two homosexuals are murdered by an Islamic extremist.
6/25/2014 USA West Orange, NJ 1 0 A 19-year-old college student is shot to death 'in revenge' for Muslim deaths overseas.
9/25/2014 USA Moore, OK 1 1 A Sharia advocate beheads a woman after calling for Islamic terror and posting an Islamist beheading photo.
7/16/2015 USA Chattanooga 5 2 A 'devout Muslim' stages a suicide attack on a recruiting center at a strip mall and a naval center which leaves five dead.
 
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Everything you do is based on the choices you make. It's not your parents, your past relationships, your job, the economy, the weather, an argument, or your age that is to blame. You and only you are responsible for every decision and choice you make, period ... ... Wish more people would realize this.

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Muslim Terrorist Attacks vs. Christian Terrorist Attacks

My uninformed friend who “drinks the Kool Aid of MSM propaganda” said that “there are terrorists in Islam and Christianity, the two religions are the same, there are “nuts” in both religions.”

Well, let’s look at the facts.

Besides the fact that the Q’ran was written by Mohammed (his wife Aisha was 6 years old) 600 years after the Torah (first 5 books of the Bible) was written, and the Q’ran takes the stories of the Torah and changes the names, so that Ishmael (Arab) instead of Issac (Jewish) becomes the first-born son who receives the blessing from father Abraham; and besides the fact that the God of the Bible died for our salvation, and the Allah of the Q’ran wants you to die for your salvation; and beside the fact that Jesus said in Matthew 5 “Love your enemies,” and Mohammed said in Sura 9:5, “Kill the infidel (non-Muslims);” let’s see how many terrorist attacks were caused by Christians in the last decade, and how many were caused by Muslims.

Start with Christians.

The Liberal-Progressive (Socialist/Communist) Mainstream Media insinuated or reported that these Mass Murderers/Terrorists below were “Christians“:

1. Oklahoma bomber Timothy McVeigh was not a Christian and never claimed to be.* He was obsessed with the “violent, race wars” book called “The Turner Diaries” by William Pierce. “…He slept with it under his pillow…”
(*Being sprinkled as a baby in a Catholic church doesn’t make someone a Christian)

2. Jared Lee Loughner who shot Gabrille Giffords? His parents belonged to the same reformed synagogue that Giffords belonged to. He listed “Jewish” on his MySpace page and “Mein Kampf” as his favorite book. Not a Christian!

3. Columbine. Harris and Klebold From their left-behind writings and videos, they seem to have been agnostic and antagonistic toward Christians. Klebold’s journal entry said, “… I have just lost *uckin 45$, & Before that I lost my zippo & knife – (i did get those back) Why the *uck is he being such an A**HOLE??? (god i guess, whoever is the being which controlls *hit)…” They weren’t Christians.

4. Norwegian massacre guy? Anders Behring Breivik. Not a Christian. In his 1500 page manifesto he wrote, “”If you have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ and God then you are a religious Christian. Myself and many more like me do not necessarily have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ and God. We do however believe in Christianity as a cultural, social, identity and moral platform…I’m not going to pretend I’m a very religious person as that would be a lie. I’ve always been very pragmatic and influenced by my secular surroundings and environment…Religion is a crutch for many weak people and many embrace religion for self serving reasons as a source for drawing mental strength.”

5. Batman Movie Masacre? James Holmes. Not a Christian. “Match.com has confirmed that Holmes had an account on the dating site, in which he posted “agnostic” as his religion.” Just recently, he converted to Islam in prison.

6. Sandy Hook killer? Adam Lanza – Satan worshipper ? The main stream media never mentions his religion. But the UK Daily Mail says a former classmate, Trevor L. Todd, revealed that “Adam had an online page dedicated to Satan… he had the word ‘Devil’ written in red, Gothic-style letters against a black background.

“But he who sins against me injures himself; All those who hate me love death.”” – Proverbs 8:36.

Andrew Rosenthal writes in the NY Times, “What’s the difference between McVeigh and Tsarnaev?”
His article infers that Muslim terrorists as opposed to other terrorists get racial/religious “profiling.” Uh, Rosenthal…America is at war with Islamic Terrorism. And, our president is on the side of the enemy. That is the difference between Timothy and Dzhokhar. There are no Christian Terrorist Training Camps. There are Muslim Terrorist Training Camps. There is no one shouting “Glory to Jesus Christ” and chopping people’s heads off on the streets of London and Paris. There are Muslims shouting “Allahu Akbar” while shooting people at Ft. Hood.

“Islamic terrorists” who are breeding at an alarming rate, want to take over the world and instigate Shariah Law.
“Mass Murderer/terrorists” like Harris, Klebold, and Loughner want to make a statement and kill themselves. That’s the difference.

What they have in common is that they all did evil, and that none of them are Jesus-followers or adhere to the Bible, or its gospel message of love, redemption, and salvation.

So, no stats on Christian murder.

Now, here are statistics of the violence done by Muslims recently. For complete list, scroll to bottom of this page.

List of Islamic Terror Attacks For Recent 30 Day Period:

Date Country City Killed Injured Description
2013.06.03 Afghanistan Laghman 7 0 Four children and two women are among a family of seven exterminated by
fundamentalist bombers.
2013.06.02 Yemen Shabwa 9 5 An al-Qaeda suicide bomber sends nine people to paradise.
2013.06.01 Yemen Hadramawt 1 0 An al-Qaeda gunmen praises Allah as he shoots a local air force officer to death at a traffic light.
2013.06.01 Afghanistan Barkhol 3 11 The Taliban take out three members of a wedding party with a roadside blast.
2013.06.01 Pakistan Pastawana 1 0 Religious extremists gun down a public high school principal in cold blood at his home.
2013.06.01 Afghanistan Uruzgan 4 0 A child is among four civilians exterminated by fundamentalist bombers.
2013.06.01 Niger Niamey 4 10 Mujao Islamists storm a prison and shoot dead three guards and a visitor.
2013.05.31 Iraq Baghdad 4 11 Sectarian bombers target worshippers leaving a mosque, taking down four.
2013.05.31 Pakistan Nazimabad 3 0 A 14-year-old child is among three Shiites killed during a Sipah-
e-Sahaba attack.
2013.05.30 Iraq Shaab 6 17 Mujahideen bomb a Shiite commercial district, killing at least six innocents.
2013.05.30 Iraq Tal Afar 4 8 Four people are taken out by a Shahid suicide car bomber.
2013.05.29 Iraq Baghdad 16 42 Sectarian bombers blow up a wedding party, killing sixteen outright and leaving
another forty in agony.
2013.05.29 Afghanistan Jalalabad 1 1 A suicide bomber attacks a Red Cross office, killing a guard.
2013.05.28 Iraq Sadr City 5 26 Sunnis detonate a shrapnel bomb at a Shia bus stop, taking down at least
five civilians.
2013.05.28 Iraq Tarmiyah 4 8 A Fedayeen suicide bomber sends four Iraqis to Allah.
2013.05.28 Afghanistan Baghlan 5 0 Five family members are laid out by a Taliban roadside bomb.
2013.05.28 Afghanistan Arghistan 7 1 Taliban militants shoot seven local officers in the back after
the police invite them in for dinner.
2013.05.28 Libya Benghazi 1 3 A local soldier is gunned down by radical Islamists.
2013.05.28 Pakistan Badbher 1 1 Religious extremists fire on a team of polio workers, killing a woman.
2013.05.28 Pakistan Karachi 3 0 A man and his two sons, ages 12 and 15, are brutally shot to death by
sectarian Jihadis.
2013.05.28 Iraq Tikrit 3 2 Three Iraqis are shot to death by al-Qaeda.
2013.05.28 Pakistan Peshawar 2 17 Two people are killed when Sunnis set off a bomb at a Shia mosque.
2013.05.28 Pakistan Karachi 1 0 Lashkar-e-Jhangvi murder a man for being a Shiite.
2013.05.28 Iraq Mosul 11 2 A suicide bombing is among a series of Mujahid attacks that leave a dozen dead.
2013.05.27 Iraq Baghdad 5 14 Five civilians bleed to death following an al-Qaeda blast in a commercial area.
2013.05.27 Pakistan Orangi 1 0 Sipah-e-Sahaba terrorists gun down a Shia activist.
2013.05.27 Iraq Tikrit 2 3 al-Qaeda bomber take down two Iraqis.
2013.05.27 Pakistan Karachi 1 0 A seminary student is kidnapped and murdered by sectarian rivals.
2013.05.27 Pakistan Shangla 5 0 A powerful bomb planted by radical Sunnis completely dismantles five
local cops.
2013.05.27 Thailand Pattani 1 3 One person is killed by a Muslim bomb blast near a school.
2013.05.27 Pakistan Bannu 1 0 A cleric is gunned down by Religion of Peace rivals.
2013.05.27 Iraq Madain 3 9 Jihadi car bombers kill three and injure nine.
2013.05.27 Iraq Sadr City 13 35 Thirteen shoppers are blown to bits by an al-Qaeda bomb at a shopping
district.
2013.05.27 Iraq al-Maalif 6 12 Sunni bombers strike a Shiite open air market, killing at least a half
dozen patrons.
2013.05.27 Iraq Sadria 3 11 Three Iraqis are sent to Allah by al-Qaeda bombers.
2013.05.27 Iraq Sabi al-Boor 8 26 al-Qaeda bombers take out eight Iraqis with a bomb planted in a Shia
neighborhood.
2013.05.27 Lebanon Hermel 3 1 A 17-year-old girl is among three civilians killed in a rocket attack blamed on
religious extremists.
2013.05.27 Iraq Khalis 1 2 Terrorists gun down a teacher.
2013.05.27 Iraq Jisr Diyala 5 12 Five Shiites are obliterated by Sunni bombers.
2013.05.27 Iraq Bayaa 6 16 An al-Qaeda bomb planted in a Shia neighborhood leaves six dead.
2013.05.27 Iraq Hurriyah 5 14 Five are killed A Shia neighborhood is bombed by Sunni extremists.
2013.05.27 Iraq Shaab 4 9 An al-Qaeda blast leaves four Shia dead.
2013.05.27 Iraq Kazimiyah 4 11 Four Shia waiting for a bus are sent to paradise by Sunni bombers.
2013.05.27 Iraq Baladiyat 4 11 A Sunni bomb blast in a Shia neighborhood leaves four dead.
2013.05.26 Turkey Ankara 0 1 At least one person is stabbed when Islamists shouting ‘Allah Akbar’ attack a
couple kissing on the subway.
2013.05.26 Syria Damascus 6 15 A mother and child are among six killed by an al-Nusra car bomb.
2013.05.26 Thailand Pattani 1 0 A 50-year-old coconut farmer is gunned down by suspected Muslim
militants.
2013.05.26 Afghanistan Zherook 2 0 A 4-year-old child and her mother bleed to death following a Taliban
rocket attack on their home.
2013.05.26 Iraq Baghdad 1 0 Mujahideen assassinate a promising soccer player.
2013.05.26 Kenya Abdisugow 6 2 A teacher and a teenage boy are among six people murdered by Islamic
militants.
2013.05.26 Iraq Baghdad 3 2 Three civilians are shot to death by Jihadi gunmen.
2013.05.26 Pakistan Bannu 6 6 Terrorists kill six security personnel in two attacks.
2013.05.26 Thailand Pattani 1 0 Muslim ‘separatists’ shoot a 44-year-old woman several times in the chest.
2013.05.26 Egypt Cairo 1 0 Muslims abduct and kill a 6-year-old Coptic boy.
2013.05.26 Iraq Mosul 5 21 Islamic terrorists take out five Iraqis in various attacks.
2013.05.25 Iraq Samarrah 7 21 Seven Shia pilgrims on a bus are sent straight to Allah by Sunni bombers.
2013.05.25 France Paris 0 1 A soldier is wounded when a Muslim stabs him in the neck in a Paris shopping
district.
2013.05.25 Yemen Hadramawt 2 2 A civilian and a cop bleed to death after al-Qaeda militants throw a
grenade at them.
2013.05.25 Pakistan Orangi 0 2 Two children are hurt when suspected Taliban throw a bomb into a school
yard.
2013.05.25 Dagestan Makhachkala 1 14 Children are among the casualties when a female suicide bomber
detonates in a public square.
2013.05.25 Thailand Pattani 1 0 A 44-year-old civilian is shot to death in his pickup truck by Muslim
‘separatists’.
2013.05.25 Somalia Baidoa 1 14 At least one person is killed by an al-Shabaab blast at a market.
2013.05.24 Afghanistan Kabul 4 4 Fedayeen attack a humanitarian aid office, killing a 6-year-old child and
three others.
2013.05.24 Pakistan Quetta 1 0 Fundamentalists lob a hand grenade into a shop selling Western music,
killing the owner.
2013.05.24 Nigeria Borno 1 0 Members of Boko Haram murder an elderly Christian woman in her home.
2013.05.24 Nigeria Gwoza 2 0 A pastor and a church member are brutally slain by Islamist gunmen.
2013.05.24 Thailand Pattani 5 1 Muslim ‘separatists’ murder five security personnel with a roadside bomb.
2013.05.24 India Tral 3 0 Three Indian troops are killed in an ambush by Hizb-ul-Mujahideen.
2013.05.24 Afghanistan Andar 4 0 Four civilians at a mosque are killed when explosives carried by bombers
detonate prematurely after the stop off for pre-blast prayer.
2013.05.24 Pakistan Landi Kotal 1 1 Religious extremists murder a truck driver.
2013.05.24 Saudi Arabia Taif 1 0 An al-Qaeda prisoner kills a guard trying to save him from a fire.
2013.05.24 Pakistan Mattani 6 4 Religious radicals take out six local cops with RPGs.
2013.05.24 Pakistan Peshawar 2 3 Two other people are killed when a suicide bomber targets a rival
cleric.
2013.05.24 Yemen al-Thalib 2 0 An al-Qaeda attack on a local security post leaves two soldiers dead.
2013.05.23 Pakistan Sibi 5 2 Fundamentalists are suspected of storming a brothel and killing five people.
2013.05.23 Pakistan Quetta 13 16 The Tehreek-i-Taliban “proudly claim” a brutal bombing that leaves over a dozen dead.
2013.05.23 Niger Agadez 20 16 Suicide bombers detonate in a local army barracks, killing about twenty others.
2013.05.23 Iraq Taji 4 5 al-Qaeda gunmen murder four local soldiers at a checkpoint.
2013.05.23 Niger Arlit 1 13 At least one civilians dies following a Mujao suicide car bombing at a uranium
mine.
2013.05.23 Dagestan Karabudakhkent 2 0 At least two innocent people are killed during a shooting and
grenade attack by Islamic militants.
2013.05.23 Pakistan Karachi 1 0 A young Hindu is shot to death by a Muslim gang.
2013.05.23 Egypt Luxor 3 0 A woman and her two daughters are strangled and thrown into a river by seven male
relatives concerned about unIslamic behavior.
2013.05.23 Somalia Beledweyne 3 0 al-Shabaab terrorists attack a nomad community that refused to supply
them with “payment”.
2013.05.22 Iraq Baghdad 12 0 Seven woman and five men are executed at a brothel by Islamic fundamentalists.
2013.05.22 Thailand Narathiwat 1 0 A grocery store owner is executed in his shop by Muslim
‘insurgents’.
2013.05.22 Afghanistan Ghazni 1 5 Taliban bombers take out an Afghan civilian
2013.05.22 UK London 1 0 An off-duty soldier is hacked to death in the name of Allah by two Muslims.
2013.05.22 Afghanistan Moqur 4 14 A suicide bomber detonates at a busy market, wiping out four bystanders.
2013.05.22 Afghanistan Helmand 1 3 A motorcyclist is taken out by a Taliban roadside bomb.
2013.05.22 Pakistan Sheikh Nala 1 3 A woman is killed when Islamic militants attack and burn four
houses.
2013.05.22 Pakistan Golimar 1 0 A Shia newspaper vendor is shot to death by Ahl-e-Sunnat wal Jamaat.
2013.05.22 Kenya Garissa 2 0 al-Shabaab is suspected in the cold-blooded killing of two civilians.
2013.05.22 Pakistan Karachi 1 0 A Christian man is gunned down by two men in a targeted attack.
2013.05.21 Iraq Abu Ghraib 11 21 Eleven people at a mosque bleed out following a bombing by Religion of
Peace rivals.
2013.05.21 Pakistan Pirabad 2 0 A man and wife are shot to death by her family for marrying of their own
free will.
2013.05.21 Pakistan Dargai 2 7 Muslim bombers take out two guards at a power station.
2013.05.21 Afghanistan Kandahar 2 5 Sunni fundamentalists claim credit for killing two local cops.
2013.05.21 Pakistan Quetta 1 0 A Sunni police officer deliberately kills a fellow officer for being a
Shiite.
2013.05.21 Iraq Baghdad 6 18 Six people bleed to death when Mujahideen set off a bomb outside a cafe.
2013.05.21 Lebanon Beaver Ridge WV Canaan 11 70 A cleric is among eleven people killed in a sectarian clash between Shia and Sunni.
2013.05.21 Pakistan Dargai 1 0 A cleric is gunned down in his mosque by suspected terrorists.
2013.05.21 Afghanistan Herat 7 0 Seven Afghans are exterminated by a Taliban roadside bomb.
2013.05.21 Iraq Kirkuk 5 46 Holy warriors send razor-sharp shrapnel into patrons of a cattle market, taking
out at least five.
2013.05.21 Iraq Tarmiyah 3 7 A suicide bomber snuffs out three other lives.
2013.05.21 Dagestan Buinaksk 1 1 A police officer is gunned down by Islamists.
2013.05.20 Iraq Hillah 9 26 Nine people are cut down by Religion of Peace rivals while leaving a mosque.
2013.05.20 Iraq Basra 13 40 Over a dozen people at a restaurant are taken out in mid-bite by Mujahid bombers.
2013.05.20 Iraq Anbar 13 0 Thirteen innocent kidnap victims are brutally executed by religious militants.
2013.05.20 Pakistan Bajour 1 0 Fundamentalists fire on a polio team, killing a guard.
2013.05.20 Iraq Samarrah 8 15 Eight Shia pilgrims are sent straight to Allah by Sunni car bombers.
2013.05.20 Iraq Baghdad 12 20 A dozen Shiites are torn to shreds by sectarian bombers at a market.
2013.05.20 Pakistan Tank 1 0 A peace committee activist is shot dead by Muslim terrorists.
2013.05.20 Iraq Balad 14 13 Fourteen Shia pilgrims are disassembled by Sunni bombers.
2013.05.20 Iraq Tikrit 2 1 A married couple is laid out when terrorists bomb their car.
2013.05.20 Iraq Baghdad 34 126 Over thirty people are murdered in a series of al-Qaeda bombings in Shiite areas.
2013.05.20 Dagestan Makhachkala 4 44 Four people are killed when Jihadists set off a bomb in front of
a courthouse.
2013.05.20 Afghanistan Baghlan 14 11 A Fedayeen suicide bomber murders fourteen people.
2013.05.19 Tunisia Tunis 0 11 Eleven policemen are injured when Salafists throw petrol bombs at them.
2013.05.19 Lebanon Tripoli 2 6 A boy is among two people killed during a sectarian clash between Sunni and Shia.
2013.05.19 Pakistan Khushpur 1 3 Angry Muslims fire on a Christian village, killing a teenage student.
2013.05.19 Afghanistan Moqor 6 4 Six Afghans lose their lives to a Taliban ambush.
2013.05.19 Iraq Baqubah 2 0 Terrorists kill and man and his wife in their home.
2013.05.19 Iraq Rawa 3 2 Islamic ‘insurgents’ gun down three local cops in cold blood.
2013.05.19 Iraq Haditha 8 0 Al-Qaeda attack a police station and kill eight occupants.
2013.05.19 Iraq Baghdad 2 5 Religious radicals open fire on a group of men playing checkers, killing two.
2013.05.19 Pakistan Basya Khel 1 5 A bomb targeting children leaves one dead.
2013.05.18 India Kupwara 1 0 Muslim militants from Pakistan shoot an Indian border guard to death.
2013.05.18 Syria Damascus 3 5 Terrorists detonate a car bomb near a school, killing three people.
2013.05.18 Iraq Garma 4 0 al-Qaeda gunmen take down four Iraqis.
2013.05.18 Iraq Basra 1 0 A Shia cleric is shot to death by Religion of Peace rivals.
2013.05.18 Iraq Latifiya 5 10 Jihad car bombers take out ten Iraqis.
2013.05.18 Afghanistan Bakwa 4 0 Taliban militants murder four Afghan soldiers with a bomb.
2013.05.18 Thailand Narathiwat 1 4 One person bleeds to death after Muslim ‘separatists’ bomb a
hotel.
2013.05.18 Iraq Baghdad 5 0 Mujahideen enter a home and slaughter five family members, including two children
ages 8 and 10.
2013.05.18 Afghanistan Khak-e-Safid 1 0 A local policeman is gunned down in his driveway by Sunni
hardliners.
2013.05.17 Iraq Baghdad 22 57 al-Qaeda bombers take down two dozen Iraqis with three bombs.
2013.05.17 Pakistan Mianwali 2 0 A faith healer and his wife are brutally murdered in their home
by suspected fundamentalists.
2013.05.17 Pakistan Baz Darrah 21 120 Twenty-one worshippers at two mosques are sent straight to Allah
by Religion of Peace rivals.
2013.05.17 Afghanistan Kandahar 9 70 Islamic hardliners bomb a family restaurant, killing nine
innocents.
2013.05.17 Egypt Alexandria 1 3 A Copt is killed during an assault by a Muslim bomb on a church.
2013.05.17 Iraq Madain 8 25 Eight mourners at a funeral are disassembled by sectarian bombers.
2013.05.17 Iraq Fallujah 2 8 Terrorists bomb a coffee shop, killing two patrons.
2013.05.17 Yemen Mukalla 1 0 A security officer is assassinated by al-Qaeda gunmen on a motorcycle.
2013.05.17 Iraq Baqubah 43 57 A double bomb attack on a Sunni mosque leaves over forty worshippers dead.
2013.05.16 Afghanistan Kabul 15 40 A dedicated Sunni blows himself up in a city street, exterminating
fifteen souls, including two children
2013.05.16 Pakistan Peshawar 2 0 Two truck drivers are shot to death by Muslim extremists.
2013.05.16 Iraq Kirkuk 12 18 A dozen people are torn to shreds when a suicide bomber self-detonates at a Shia
mosque.
2013.05.16 Pakistan Mingora 2 1 A child activist and a peace committee member are shot by the Taliban in
targeted attacks.
2013.05.16 Pakistan Matani 5 6 Religious extremists open fire a convoy of local combat engineers,
killing five.
2013.05.16 Somalia Gof Gadud 5 10 An al-Shabaab ambush leaves five dead.
2013.05.16 Iraq Sadr City 9 16 A 7-year-old child is among nine killed when Sunnis bomb a bus stop in a
Shia neighborhood.
2013.05.16 Iraq Kamaliya 3 14 Three civilians are laid out by a Mujahideen car bomb at a taxi stand.
2013.05.15 Iraq Baghdad 14 68 At least five al-Qaeda bombs targeting Shiites leave a dozen dead and many more
in agony.
2013.05.15 Nigeria Maiduguri 1 0 Religion of Peace activists shoot a pastor to death in his home in front
of his daughter.
2013.05.15 Iraq Kirkuk 12 23 Two Jihad car bombings leave a dozen Iraqis dead.
2013.05.15 Iraq Mosul 2 0 A suicide bomber kills two Iraqis.
2013.05.15 Iraq Abu Ghraib 2 0 Two brothers are taken from their home and slain execution style by al-
Qaeda.
2013.05.15 Iraq Sadr City 7 33 Sunnis set off three car bombs in Shia neighborhoods, leaving seven dead.
2013.05.15 Thailand Pattani 1 0 Muslim ‘insurgents’ shoot a 50-year-old villager to death.
2013.05.15 Iraq Kadhimiya 2 9 Two people are taken out by Jihad car bombers.
2013.05.14 Iraq Mosul 1 14 A child is taken out by Mujahid car bombers.
2013.05.14 Iraq Fallujah 2 0 al-Qaeda militants shoot two brothers to death.
2013.05.14 Syria Deir al-Zor 11 0 al-Nusra Islamists summarily execute eleven captives on video while
praising Allah.
2013.05.14 Iraq Baghdad 12 0 Fundamentalists execute a dozen people at a series of shops selling alcohol.
2013.05.14 Afghanistan Garmsir 3 7 Children are among the casualties when Sunni radicals set off a
motorcycle bomb at a market.
2013.05.14 Syria Raqqa 3 0 Video surfaces of the cold-blooded execution of three captives by al-Nusra
Islamists.
2013.05.13 Pakistan Bara 1 8 Taliban militants take out a child with a rocket.
2013.05.13 Afghanistan Helmand 3 0 Three Georgian soldiers are killed when a suicide truck bomber plows into
their base.
2013.05.13 Libya Benghazi 15 41 Islamists are thought responsible for a car bomb blast at a hospital that
leaves over a dozen dead, including two children.
2013.05.13 Afghanistan Arghistan 10 12 Women and children are among ten civilians ripped to shreds by a
bomb planted by religious radicals.
2013.05.13 Iraq Ramadi 3 7 A Holy Warrior detonates a suicide vest, killing three Iraqis.
2013.05.12 Pakistan Muslim Colony 1 0 A 19-year-old woman is strangled by her conservative family for
getting pregnant.
2013.05.12 Pakistan Quetta 8 97 A child is among eight people blown to bits by a Lashkar-e-Jhangvi
suicide car bomber.
2013.05.12 Iraq Basra 1 0 Religion of Peace rivals gun down a cleric outside his mosque.
2013.05.12 Iraq Mosul 5 0 Five suspected al-Qaeda victims are handcuffed and shot in the back of the head.
2013.05.12 Iraq Mishahada 3 0 Mujahideen murder three men walking by the side of the road.
2013.05.12 Iraq Baghdad 4 0 Terrorists shoot four women to death in their own home.
2013.05.11 Afghanistan Nuristan 1 0 A man is murdered in his own home by the Taliban.
2013.05.11 Kenya Mandera 2 4 Islamists throw a grenade at a group of Kenyans and then shoot them in the head.
2013.05.11 Pakistan Panj Khata 1 35 A 10-year-old boy is taken out by a bomb planted by Sunni
hardliners.
2013.05.11 Iraq Shurqat 3 19 Three people are incinerated by a suicide truck bomber.
2013.05.11 Iraq Nineveh 3 21 A Fedayeen suicide bomber kills two women and a child.
2013.05.11 Pakistan Manghopir 2 3 A suicide bomber sends two souls to Allah.
2013.05.11 Pakistan Peshawar 1 10 A bomb outside a polling station leaves one dead.
2013.05.11 Pakistan Karachi 11 40 Children are among the casualties when Islamists set off a bomb blast
targeting voters.
2013.05.10 Pakistan Miranshah 4 21 Religious fanatics take out four locals with a bomb blast at a market.
2013.05.10 Pakistan Kurram 3 0 The Taliban gun down three security personnel.
2013.05.10 India Pulwama 1 0 Hizb-ul-Mujahideen gun down a police officer.
2013.05.10 India Rajpora 1 0 A farmer is murdered inside his home by Muslim militants.
2013.05.10 Pakistan Karachi 1 0 Lashkar-e-Jhagvi kidnap and murder a Shiite civilian.
2013.05.10 India Lassipora 1 0 An imam is shot to death outside his mosque by Religion of Peace rivals.
2013.05.10 Iraq al-Dhera 1 5 A 2-year-old child is pulled into pieces by Mujahid bombers.
2013.05.10 Iraq Mahaweel 3 7 Religion of Peace rivals bomb a mosque, killing three worshippers.
2013.05.09 Pakistan Multan 1 8 Fundamentalists are suspected of opening fire on a political rally,
killing one.
2013.05.09 Yemen Lahij 1 0 al-Qaeda gunmen take down a local traffic cop.
2013.05.09 Egypt Cairo 0 1 An American professor is stabbed five times by a well-educated terrorist.
2013.05.09 Pakistan Karachi 1 0 Sipah-e-Sahaba gunmen murder a 35-year-old Shiite.
2013.05.09 Iraq Hawija 1 11 al-Qaeda bombers take out an Iraqi child.
2013.05.09 Iraq Baghdad 3 2 Terrorists kill three university students with a bomb placed on a bus.
2013.05.09 Pakistan Torghar 6 10 A half-dozen people are disassembled by Islamic bombers.
2013.05.08 Iraq Salaheddin 1 1 A suicide bomber manages to kill one other person.
2013.05.08 Thailand Narathiwat 1 1 A 45-year-old woman is shot to death by Muslim terrorists.
2013.05.08 Afghanistan Kandahar 3 0 At least three drivers are killed by Taliban gunmen at a protest.
2013.05.08 Iraq Fallujah 3 2 al-Qaeda gunmen open fire on police officers at a checkpoint, killing
two.
2013.05.08 Iraq Mosul 1 4 A Fedayeen suicide bomber kills a civilian.
2013.05.08 Iraq Abu Ghraib 2 3 Religion of Peace rivals set off an IED at a mosque that leaves two dead,
including the imam.
2013.05.08 Pakistan Bannu 2 23 A woman is among two people blown away by a Shahid suicide bomber.
2013.05.08 Pakistan Hangu 2 18 Women and children are among the casualties when Islamic militants set
off a bomb at a market.
2013.05.08 Yemen Lahij 3 0 Three men in a car are wasted by al-Qaeda gunmen.
2013.05.08 Iraq Kirkuk 2 49 Two suicide bombers take down two Iraqis and injure about fifty others.
2013.05.07 Nigeria Bale 1 0 Boko Haram murder a man in front of his wives and children.
2013.05.07 France Roussillon 0 1 A Muslim who had recently returned from the Haj shouts ‘Allah Akbar’ and
stabs a police officer at random.
2013.05.07 Pakistan Hangu 12 35 At least a dozen people are obliterate when a Fedayeen suicide bomber
detonates at an election rally.
2013.05.07 Thailand Pattani 1 0 Militant Muslims shoot a clerk to death at a restaurant.
2013.05.07 Pakistan Korangi 2 0 Two activists of a secular-leaning party are assassinated by religious
fundamentalists.
2013.05.07 Afghanistan Ghazni 4 1 Taliban bombers send four Afghan cops to Allah.
2013.05.07 Algeria Keddara 2 0 Two guards at a quarry are murdered by Islamic fundamentalists.
2013.05.07 Pakistan Lower Dir 5 0 Five people are killed in a Taliban attack on a secular party official.
2013.05.07 Nigeria Bama 14 0 Boko Haram attack a prison housing Islamist prisoners, killing fourteen guards.
2013.05.07 Nigeria Bama 26 0 Twenty-six people, including three children, are burnt alive as Islamists set fire to a police barracks.
2013.05.06 Iraq Baghdad 7 26 Jihadi car bombers take out seven Iraqis near a restaurant.
2013.05.06 Syria al-Quasair 20 0 Hezbollah is accused of butchering twenty people, mostly women and children, with knives.
2013.05.06 Bangladesh Motijheel 1 0 A policeman is hacked to death by Islamists chanting ‘death to those who insult Allah’.
2013.05.06 Bangladesh Kanchpur 4 0 Four security officials are beaten to death by anti-blasphemy
activists.
2013.05.06 Iraq Baghdad 6 13 Mujahideen roll grenades into a rival mosque, sending at least six worshippers straight to Allah.
2013.05.06 Thailand Narathiwat 1 0 Muslim militants gun down a 62-year-old man on his way home from work.
2013.05.06 Pakistan Peshawar 25 64 A Shahid suicide bomber detonates at an election rally,
slaughtering over two dozen innocents.
2013.05.06 Iraq Mosul 5 0 Two bombings, one by a Shahid, leave five Iraqis dead.
2013.05.06 Philippines Basilan 2 0 An Abu Sayyaf ambush leaves two dead.
2013.05.05 Pakistan Sibi 4 7 The Tehrik-i-Taliban is suspected of attacking the convoy of a secular
political candidate, killing four.
2013.05.05 Iraq Baghdad 1 6 Muslims set off a bomb at a rival mosque, killing a passerby.
2013.05.05 Iraq Mahmoudiya 2 0 Mujahideen invade a home and shoot a man and his son to death.
2013.05.05 Nigeria Njilan 10 0 Islamic extremists stage a Sunday morning attack on a church and a nearby cattle
market, killing at least ten.
2013.05.05 Iraq Jamiyah 3 13 Three patrons are killed by a Fundamentalist bomb at an Internet cafe.
2013.05.05 Pakistan Orangi 5 0 A 9-year-old girl and three women are among five shot to death during an
honor killing at a brothel.
2013.05.05 Afghanistan Korghan 4 5 Sunni hardliners dismantle four civilians with a roadside bomb.
2013.05.05 Thailand Narathiwat 2 3 Two Thais are killed by a Muslim ‘separatist’ bomb.
2013.05.05 Bangladesh Dhaka 4 24 At least four civilians are killed by a Hefajat-e-Islam ‘siege’.
2013.05.05 Somalia Buulo Sheekh 2 0 A 95-year-old man and his grandson are murdered in their home by al-
Shabaab activists.
2013.05.05 Egypt al-Arish 1 0 Four fundamentalists shoot a bartender to death for serving alcohol.
2013.05.05 Somalia Mogadishu 11 20 Eleven people are ripped to pieces by a Fedayeen suicide bomber.
2013.05.04 Thailand Narathiwat 1 0 A 59-year-old truck driver is murdered by Muslim militants.
2013.05.04 Thailand Pattani 1 0 Muslim terrorists shoot a 50-year-old civilian twice in the head.
2013.05.04 Pakistan Karachi 3 40 Children are among the casualties when Religion of Peace activists blow
up a secular-leaning party office.
2013.05.04 Afghanistan Farah 2 0 Two American trainers are murdered by a Taliban in uniform.
2013.05.04 Nigeria Ngamdu 4 0 Religion of Peace activists tie up four villagers and cut their throats.
2013.05.04 Mali Gao 2 4 Two local soldiers are taken out by a Fedayeen suicide bomber.

Go here for a list of Muslim caused violence in 2012.

Link to the site that keeps track of Islamic activity here: The Religion of Peace.

My uninformed friend thinks the Internet is unreliable. So, go ask the Boston Bombing victims whose legs are blown off, who did it. Was it Muslims or Christians?

 

Read more at http://victoriajackson.com/9021/list-of-islamic-terrorist-attacks-by-year

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I didn't only say 'Christian'. And the filter of 'only cultural, not committed' that is used to claim some of those killers were not Christian would also remove many of those 'Muslims' from the list: they were Muslim by faith but killed for political rather than religious reasons. 

You've nicely illustrated my point about bias and prejudice. 

Of the mass shootings in the US this year, at least two have been by rightwingers. People who are extremists of many of the views you hold, in the same way Muslim shooters are extremists of the views of mainstream Islam. 

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I didn't only say 'Christian'. And the filter of 'only cultural, not committed' that is used to claim some of those killers were not Christian would also remove many of those 'Muslims' from the list: they were Muslim by faith but killed for political rather than religious reasons. 

You've nicely illustrated my point about bias and prejudice. 

Of the mass shootings in the US this year, at least two have been by rightwingers. People who are extremists of many of the views you hold, in the same way Muslim shooters are extremists of the views of mainstream Islam. 

Interesting. Could you share what views I hold in common with extremists

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There are certainly nut cases and just plain evil people that identify themselves as christian. That really is't in dispute.

When have heard Glory to God as they cut off the heads of Muslims . Have you heard Allah Ackbar when the muslims identify as followers of Islam while cutting off heads

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I didn't only say 'Christian'. And the filter of 'only cultural, not committed' that is used to claim some of those killers were not Christian would also remove many of those 'Muslims' from the list: they were Muslim by faith but killed for political rather than religious reasons.

The IRA claimed to be catholic but despite the fact that thousands were killed by the IRA there was no attempt to link Catholicism with terrorism. This was a political struggle.

How often have we heard God bless America when an American's president send Americans to kill Muslims? Whether it is by a sword or a drone, a severed head is a severed head! Some people think that because we can't see the mutilation wrought by Nato munitions that it's somehow less morally distasteful.

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In a secular world there are times that war is a necessity to protect a nation or vital interests. Lining up rows of christians and beheading them because they won't renounce Christ is a bit different.

I don't recall the IRA shouting to the Gory of God or the catholic church as they killed. Did they?

Muslim extremists make it very clear that this is a religious war on christians

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Knowing how important truth is to you,I sincerely hope you will tell me what views I hold in common with right wing extremists. I don't really mind that you think so but I have to admit I am really curious s I know how you feel about accusations without proof

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You hold right wing views. They hold them in the extreme. You think the Affordable Care Act was a mistake and a problem. You oppose abortion. You oppose socialism. You think government is the problem, not solution. You dislike much of what feminism stands for. And so on.

These are all views shared by John Houser, the Louisiana shooter, and Dylann Roof who shot the people in the Charleston church, and Jerad and Amanda Miller who killed two police officers and a civilian in Las Vegas last year.

As I said, you don't share their extreme views - and my moderate Muslim friends don't share the extreme views of jihadists. But the overlap between your views and the views of these people is similar in scale to the overlap for moderate Muslims.

This is also relevant: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/25/us/tally-of-attacks-in-us-challenges-perceptions-of-top-terror-threat.html?_r=0

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Knowing how important truth is to you,I sincerely hope you will tell me what views I hold in common with right wing extremists. I don't really mind that you think so but I have to admit I am really curious s I know how you feel about accusations without proof

Bonnie I want to thank you for posting the evidence of the continuous assault against those who choose to identify with the Lord of glory. I find my own consolation in this below.

28 Now when these things begin to happen, look up and lift up your heads, because your redemption draws near.”....Luke 21
 
There are many reasons given why men give their allegiance to destruction of their fellow human beings. God will eventually sort it all out. Sometimes He takes matters into His own hands and I see no reason why that won't happen in the day and times in which we live.
 
36 Then the angel of the Lord went out, and killed in the camp of the Assyrians one hundred and eighty-five thousand; and when people arose early in the morning, there were the corpses—all dead....Isaiah 37
 
When we consider that Christians are the most persecuted in the world, of all the religions, it makes this Word below more meaningful to those whose loyalty lies in the Holy One.
 
8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:....1 Peter 5
 
 
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One woman, at least, is safe. Throughout much of her pregnancy, she had been in prison in Khartoum, capital of the Republic Sudan, living with the dread expectation that she would be hanged once her baby was born. Her crime was that she had married a Christian and been accused by the authorities of apostasy, renouncing her faith, even though she maintained she had never been a Muslim in the first place. On Thursday, Meriam Ibrahim's eight-month ordeal finally ended when she was flown out of the country to Rome where she, and her new baby daughter, met the Pope in the Vatican.

But it has been a different story for the 3,000 Christians of Mosul who were driven from their homes in northern Iraq last week by Islamist fanatics who broadcast a fatwa from the loudspeakers of the city's mosques ordering them to convert to Islam, submit to its rule and pay a religious levy, or be put to death if they stayed. The last to leave was a disabled woman who could not travel. The fanatics arrived at her home and told her they would cut off her head with a sword.

Most people in the West would be surprised by the answer to the question: who are the most persecuted people in the world? According to the International Society for Human Rights, a secular group with members in 38 states worldwide, 80 per cent of all acts of religious discrimination in the world today are directed at Christians.

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The attempt to make Christian and Muslim extremists equivalent is not necessarily on the right track. There is no justification for violence to enforce Christianity. It is not in the teachings of Jesus anywhere. But I have heard a number of people say that the Quran in its later parts advocates violence to spread Islam. I don't have any deeper knowledge, but I have heard that the Quran sounds conciliatory in the ealrier chapters, written when Mohammed had no effective force behind him, and is more aggressive in later chapters when he had enough support to use force. 

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You hold right wing views. They hold them in the extreme. You think the Affordable Care Act was a mistake and a problem. You oppose abortion. You oppose socialism. You think government is the problem, not solution. You dislike much of what feminism stands for. And so on.

These are all views shared by John Houser, the Louisiana shooter, and Dylann Roof who shot the people in the Charleston church, and Jerad and Amanda Miller who killed two police officers and a civilian in Las Vegas last year.

As I said, you don't share their extreme views - and my moderate Muslim friends don't share the extreme views of jihadists. But the overlap between your views and the views of these people is similar in scale to the overlap for moderate Muslims.

This is also relevant: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/25/us/tally-of-attacks-in-us-challenges-perceptions-of-top-terror-threat.html?_r=0

No,I hold conservative views. Yes,every time I fill my husband's many prescriptions my checkbook says "affordable was a joke and a lie. I am paying so women can have me share in their birth control. Before it became affordable I could pick the coverage that was suitable for my family. Now the government tells me,guess what. My SIL understands affordable to mean something other than what you seem to. Going from reasonable insurance for her two adopted children and herself she now has thousands in co-pays and high premiums. My brother is delighted with "affordable" as at 74 he is still driving over the road to pay his "affordable" insurance

Can you tell me what is "much of what feminism stands for I dislike"? I don't think you know. As for abortion yes I do oppose abortion on demand for any reason. Remembering my son born at 7 months and the desperate attempts for his survival ,not you or anyone can tell me he was not a little human being. One that I could have had a Dr drive a scissors into the back of his skull so he wasn't technically born alive. If that is extreme or right wing,I don't have any problem with that label for that. Government is a problem and will become more so in the coming years. That extreme right wing book called the bible tells me that. And no,government is the the answer to all.

I don't think you can find anywhere that I have equated moderate muslims with the actions of muslim jihadists. We have muslims that live in our town. Never give a thought to them being as those that cut the heads of of christians.. As far as I can see they are welcome here and get along very well.

 

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These are all views shared by John Houser, the Louisiana shooter, and Dylann Roof who shot the people in the Charleston church, and Jerad and Amanda Miller who killed two police officers and a civilian in Las Vegas last year.

 

:excited:  Nice try! I believe I have also posted that more than one of the mass murderers were young men who were medicated as young boys. This is often mostly done thru the schools with their radfem ideologies. The Charleston shooter has been reported to be one of the medicated boys.

Also, many mass shooters were Democrats. Imagine that! The Aurora shooter is reprted to have been part of the occupy movement.

http://joeforamerica.com/2014//mass-murderers-democrats/

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 There is no justification for violence to enforce Christianity. It is not in the teachings of Jesus anywhere.

Christians have a well documented history of using violence to spread their teachings. America laid its foundations on the blood of massacred indigenous people. Many believed it was God's will and proclaimed it as such.

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Christians have a well documented history of using violence to spread their teachings. America laid its foundations on the blood of massacred indigenous people. Many believed it was God's will and proclaimed it as such.

I am sure some did use the excuse of God's will,mainly it was a desire for the land and resources found here. Justified? Of course not. When this land was settled it was accepted that the stronger took from the weaker. The pilgrims did not land here to spread their teaching,they came because of persecution elsewhere Just as the indigenous people of that time took by force and bloodshed land they wanted from other indigenous people. It doesn't make what happened here unusual or acts committed by only a certain people.

. But we are now living in 2015.  Because of the past we should shrug as say or well,off with their heads for those that will not renounce Christ?

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Christians have a well documented history of using violence to spread their teachings. America laid its foundations on the blood of massacred indigenous people. Many believed it was God's will and proclaimed it as such.

That is definitely the case, but many expanding civilisations have used force and extermination as they spread. The religion is pretty much incidental. It would take a more attentive analysis to sort out the influence of the respective religions. When someone is on the way to making himself very rich, the still small voice is fairly drowned out, but not the need to appear acceptable to one's society.

Just remember that it was christian societies that ended the slave trade an abolished slavery, for the first time in the history of empires. That is much more significant in working out the influence of different world view or religions than whether expansionism avoided violence. It is not to christianity's credit that so many bad things have been done in its name, but what tells you what christianity is like is to look at the changes it makes, not whether everything that calls 
itself christian is morally perfect in the first generation.

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 The religion is pretty much incidental.

On the contrary, I would suggest it was integral and provided a level of cohesiveness and even justification for genocide of Native Americans. The notion of Manifest Destiny is an example of this. The Old Testament stories of the wholesale destruction nation was used as justification and encouragement. This same spirit bleeds into today's discussion about Islamic terror. Religion and the Bible has always been part of the justification from slavery, to Jim crow to mixed marriages.

Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence.

Einstein

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