Administrators Gail Posted September 11, 2015 Administrators Share Posted September 11, 2015 I have believed for a long time that God would have to do something big to help His people who are in lands of Islam. Could the exodus of refugees be the start of a help that will save those people for Him? They are fleeing to lands where freedom to convert will be given them. Outta Here, phkrause and Sojourner 3 Quote Isaiah 32:17 And the work of righteousness shall be peace; and the effect of righteousness quietness and assurance for ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aliensanctuary Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 Or maybe there will be bloody clashes in the future as the number of Islamic immigrants overwhelms and transforms European culture. Perhaps all of the countries of Europe will ultimately become Muslim nations, creating millions of refugees who refuse to convert or die. Could the exodus of refugees be the start of a help that will save those people for Him? That's the big question, What will the slaves of hardline religion do when they are set free? Quote The Parable of the Lamb and the Pigpen https://www.createspace.com/3401451 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sojourner Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 In our local Christian book store one of the staff member is an ex muslim migrant to Australia, their daughter was born again in a Christian church and she and her husband gave their lives to Jesus soon after. They are not on their own, I have heard several testimonies of people that have come to Christianity after migrating away from an islamic nation, so you could very well be right Gail! Gail 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators lazarus Posted September 13, 2015 Moderators Share Posted September 13, 2015 Could this be the equivalent of the Berlin Wall falling for the Middle East? Gail 1 Quote Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence. Einstein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Gail Posted September 13, 2015 Author Administrators Share Posted September 13, 2015 (edited) Could this be the equivalent of the Berlin Wall falling for the Middle East? Yes, my thought, too. After the Soviet Union collapsed and opened up I was convinced that God's hand could and would do big things for His people still. I thought that not all Muslims are terrorists, that many in their hearts desire peace just as we do. Edited September 13, 2015 by Gail phkrause, Sojourner and lazarus 3 Quote Isaiah 32:17 And the work of righteousness shall be peace; and the effect of righteousness quietness and assurance for ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators lazarus Posted September 13, 2015 Moderators Share Posted September 13, 2015 (edited) I thought that not all Muslims are terrorists, that many in their hearts desire peace just as we do. What if they are? God still desires to win terrorists. IMHO, the grace and providence of God extends far beyond our cultural, political and social limits. I just had a thought......if the Christians can't/won't go to Middle East to evangelize then God will bring the Muslims to the Christians. Edited September 13, 2015 by lazarus Quote Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence. Einstein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whbae Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 As far as I know all Muslims believe in same ONE thing. Conquer the world and convert all to Muslims otherwise execute them, Jihad! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Bravus Posted September 13, 2015 Moderators Share Posted September 13, 2015 ...which just reveals that you know only the lies you have been told by Western media. That is *nothing* like what Islam is actually about. Some unbiased study and reading, and some conversations with some actual Muslims, would transform your perspective, if you let it.Frankly, Gail, in response to the question in the OP, based on what people *do* in the world - which, Jesus says in Matthew 25, is what distinguishes between the sheep and the goats - converting from Islam to Christianity is likely not a forward step. Count either lives snuffed out or 'persons helped', and Christianity and Islam are difficult to distinguish from one another (once you realise that bombed and droned and sniped people are just as dead as IEDed and beheaded people). I know the intentions are good, but the level of xenophobia and ignorance is frankly horrifying. Human beings are human beings. Religions need to be judged by the *net* impact of their believers on the world: and with open eyes, not massive in-group/out-group prejudice that makes people like us the 'good guys' by default. Sojourner, phkrause, Tom Wetmore and 2 others 5 Quote Truth is important Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aliensanctuary Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Are any European countries in a position to evangelize incoming Muslim refugees considering the level of irrelevance of religion there? Some unbiased study and reading, and some conversations with some actual Muslims, would transform your perspective, if you let it. Are you speaking of Muslims from totalitarian Middle Eastern nations extremely hostile to Christianity and Bibles, or those already living in more liberal and tolerant nations? Quote The Parable of the Lamb and the Pigpen https://www.createspace.com/3401451 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Gregory Matthews Posted September 14, 2015 Moderators Share Posted September 14, 2015 I am amazed that you would want to come to this forum and acknowledge to the world at large the depth of your ignorance as to both the religion of Islam and of its members. As far as I know all Muslims believe in same ONE thing. Conquer the world and convert all to Muslims otherwise execute them, Jihad! phkrause 1 Quote Gregory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoarrge Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 I am amazed that you would want to come to this forum and acknowledge to the world at large the depth of your ignorance as to both the religion of Islam and of its members. A good primer can be read at prophetofdoom.net. Quote To be an agent of creation is to serve the Creator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Gregory Matthews Posted September 17, 2015 Moderators Share Posted September 17, 2015 So, the following is a good primer? I question that. Prophet of Doom is the best-documented, most comprehensive, presentation of Islam's five oldest and most reliable scriptural sources. Ishaq's Biography of Muhammad, Tabari's History of Islam, and Bukhari's and Muslim's Hadith, were used to reorder the Qur'an chronologically and to set its surahs into the context of Muhammad's life. When this evidence is evaluated systematically, the only rational conclusion is that Islam's lone prophet was a ruthless terrorist, a mass-murderer, a thief, slave trader, rapist and pedophile. [/quote] Quote Gregory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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