Members rudywoofs (Pam) Posted August 6, 2006 Members Share Posted August 6, 2006 I've just run across a problem in another forum - one that is Christian-oriented, but specifically for people who are exwitches, ex-occultists, and the like, but is also an outreach to those who still follow the pagan/occultic/witchy spiritual path. The problem (for me) is this: recently there have been several new members who grew up SDA, got into the occult, somehow got back into Christianity, but are now TOTALLY against the SDA church. It really bothers me how they are making fun of EGW and say that SDA's follow her words to the letter; how all SDA's are legalists and rule-followers. One person wants to have a Bible study to show why the 7th Day is not the Sabbath. And the forum staff are openly encouraging the antagonistic attitudes - that bothers me because NO ONE is allowed to say anything against Catholicism or other mainstream denominations like Baptists, Lutherans, etc. It's sorta breaking my heart. I KNOW I'm not the most knowledgable, and I have very little to offer in the way of defense of church doctrines. OTOH, despite my doubts and misconceptions about many things spiritual and about Adventism, I DO feel like the Adventist church is where I belong - it's just that I cannot articulate why. <img src="/adventist/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> I wish I could be more of a light for the truth at that particular forum - but.....I'm barely even a flame, if that.. <img src="/adventist/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> Quote Pam Meddle Not In the Affairs of Dragons; for You Are Crunchy and Taste Good with Ketchup. If we all sang the same note in the choir, there'd never be any harmony. Funny, isn't it, how we accept Grace for ourselves and demand justice for others? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Shane Posted August 6, 2006 Share Posted August 6, 2006 I suggest reading Walter Martin's Kingdom of the Cults. He discusses Adventism at length and while he never accepted Adventism, he defended it against its critics and even convinced some of Adventism's critics, like Josh McDowell, that Adventism was not a cult. Adventism is sectarian; that we can't deny. But we are not a cult in the common usage of the term. Quote Pastoral Family Counselor... Find me at www.PostumCafe.com Author of Peculiar Christianity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Gail Posted August 7, 2006 Administrators Share Posted August 7, 2006 Pam, could you simply ask them why that is permitted and why the apparent double standard? Quote Isaiah 32:17 And the work of righteousness shall be peace; and the effect of righteousness quietness and assurance for ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rudywoofs (Pam) Posted August 7, 2006 Author Members Share Posted August 7, 2006 I already know why... it's what Shane referenced to - they consider Adventists to belong to a cult. <img src="/adventist/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" /> It is very hard to discuss anything with people who are antagonistic to me from the very get-go. I don't post much there anymore... It's too frustrating. ::thinks:: And I'm not so sure that it is the healthiest place in the world for me to be atm. I have some good friends there, but sometimes their pagan arguments seem awfully convincing.. Quote Pam Meddle Not In the Affairs of Dragons; for You Are Crunchy and Taste Good with Ketchup. If we all sang the same note in the choir, there'd never be any harmony. Funny, isn't it, how we accept Grace for ourselves and demand justice for others? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cricket Posted August 7, 2006 Share Posted August 7, 2006 </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr /> . It really bothers me how they are making fun of EGW and say that SDA's follow her words to the letter; how all SDA's are legalists and rule-followers. One person wants to have a Bible study to show why the 7th Day is not the Sabbath. And the forum staff are openly encouraging the antagonistic attitudes - that bothers me because NO ONE is allowed to say anything against Catholicism or other mainstream denominations like Baptists, Lutherans, etc. <hr /></blockquote><font class="post"> Shouldn't the standard be that no one post antagonistic attitudes about any religion? Shouldn't people be respectful of all religions (Islam, Judaism, Buddhism, Animism, Christianity, Hinduism)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Gail Posted August 7, 2006 Administrators Share Posted August 7, 2006 Pam, are the practising occultists more tolerant of SDAs than those Christians? Quote Isaiah 32:17 And the work of righteousness shall be peace; and the effect of righteousness quietness and assurance for ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rudywoofs (Pam) Posted August 7, 2006 Author Members Share Posted August 7, 2006 </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr /> Cricket said: Shouldn't the standard be that no one post antagonistic attitudes about any religion? Shouldn't people be respectful of all religions (Islam, Judaism, Buddhism, Animism, Christianity, Hinduism)? <hr /></blockquote><font class="post"> *I* think so. </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr /> Gail said: Pam, are the practising occultists more tolerant of SDAs than those Christians? <hr /></blockquote><font class="post"> yes....it's an interesting phenomenon. You would think Christians would be more tolerant of differences between themselves than pagans, but that's not what I've observed. That's part of the problem of trying to convert pagans to Christianity - they see the quarreling and bickering, the backbiting and snobbery, the intolerance and bigotry, all within a framework of purporting to *love one another.* <img src="/adventist/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> Quote Pam Meddle Not In the Affairs of Dragons; for You Are Crunchy and Taste Good with Ketchup. If we all sang the same note in the choir, there'd never be any harmony. Funny, isn't it, how we accept Grace for ourselves and demand justice for others? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cricket Posted August 7, 2006 Share Posted August 7, 2006 Maybe it's like brothers and sisters who fight like crazy at home, but band tightly together when an outsider confronts them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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