Stan Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 We don't talk about the lack of outreach to the Native Americans. There are now some great Bible Studies and other similar thing, yet for the most part Conferences, Churches and groups are silent when it comes to this unrelated people group.. Shame on us.. Quote If you receive benefit to being here please help out with expenses. https://www.paypal.me/clubadventist Administrator of a few websites like https://adventistdating.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woody Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 Stan ... are you aware of some specific needs of this group? Maybe if these were listed ... we could be better motivated to encourage change. Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan Posted March 27, 2007 Author Share Posted March 27, 2007 Are there and "reservations' near you? Quote If you receive benefit to being here please help out with expenses. https://www.paypal.me/clubadventist Administrator of a few websites like https://adventistdating.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woody Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 In a matter of weeks I will be moving. So ... I will have to look into it. But I do have some Native American Indian heritage. So ... I am just naturally curious as to their needs. Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 I have a native american friend who is a pastor to native americans. He can tell you that. 1. The work is slow but not nearly as slow as when we do nothing. He has had a lot of success with his work. He is such a kind gentle man that people atomatically like him. 2. That there are many native americans who are not being reached in the USA but who need to be reached. I have spent a weekend at a native american school not too far from the Grand Canyon. From what I could see, they were doing a great job with those kids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Shane Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 Carlos Pardeiro of SafeTV has made a great program to reach the Native Americans. Safe TV® Receives Emmy Nomination from ...iences (NATAS)! Quote: Mr. Pardeiro just received an Emmy Awards nomination on September 21, 2006 for the program “The Great Spirit” from the TV series Native New Day he has been producing and directing for the past few years. This program, hosted by storyteller Monte Church of the Mohican tribe, is dedicated to bring hope and dignity to all Native Peoples in a simple, yet beautiful way through the gospel message of Jesus Christ. Quote Pastoral Family Counselor... Find me at www.PostumCafe.com Author of Peculiar Christianity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woody Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 Thank you guys . Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olger Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 A friend of mine is an Indian. He works on trailers. olger Quote "Please don't feed the drama queens.." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Gail Posted March 30, 2007 Administrators Share Posted March 30, 2007 I haven't seen Monty Church for a while. I think I owe him some money... Quote Isaiah 32:17 And the work of righteousness shall be peace; and the effect of righteousness quietness and assurance for ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strongcuppajoe Posted May 6, 2007 Share Posted May 6, 2007 They have so many needs spiritual and well things just to live. It is a sad state when you figure we send so much money and supplies overseas and well the people who were here first many of them do not even have running water or electricity just some of the things we take advantage of. And many of them do not even have decent medical facilities if any at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators antcreations Posted May 8, 2007 Moderators Share Posted May 8, 2007 The Native New Day Series - available in VHS and DVD and Print. you can contact your local ABC for details. i like how they contextualized the Gospel. i am involve in native ministries and have been using this tool. the videos are awesome. the lessons are also available online (FREE!) http://www.bibleschools.com/courses/native/guide01/index.htm Quote http://antcreations.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/antcreations/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Rogers Posted May 19, 2007 Share Posted May 19, 2007 Having traveled out west quite a bit earlier in my years and talking with pastors who have tried to help native americans, it seems that their largest problems are: * Unemployment (up to 30%) * Decent public education * Diabetes * Alcoholism and intoxication * decent work ethic In *SOME* places where they have been allowed by the US government to put up casinos, an income has been supplied to the reservation to make improvements to their living conditions and provide a decent employment. For native americans, Christianity does not have as much a place as being one with nature and joining one's self to the spirit of the natural world. The concept of Christianity does not make as much sense as it does to the "white man/paleface". To work with the native americans, we would have to know their culture better. It would be best for native american Christians to reach their own than for us to try to wedge our way into their lives. I agree that they need help - don't get me wrong. They have been "wronged" by the white man so much they are very skeptical when some white person says, "Hi, I'm here to help you." Quote Nobody cares how much you know until they know how much you care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators antcreations Posted March 6, 2009 Moderators Share Posted March 6, 2009 working with natives now in northwest canada, i find my experience rewarding. they are open to christianity - despite the fact that early christianity took away their culture through residential schools. the approach of course is to contextualize. and we have tools that can do this. it is not the "swiss army" of contextualized gospel - but it is a start. Monte Church has an awesome seminar on understanding the "native mindset." if i get enough interest i will put it up in Google video. it's a 4 DVD presentation. Monte Church is working on the first set of the Native New Health series as well - it is kinda like the CHIP + NEWSTART - but contextualized for the natives of US and Canada. Having traveled out west quite a bit earlier in my years and talking with pastors who have tried to help native americans, it seems that their largest problems are: * Unemployment (up to 30%) * Decent public education * Diabetes * Alcoholism and intoxication * decent work ethic In *SOME* places where they have been allowed by the US government to put up casinos, an income has been supplied to the reservation to make improvements to their living conditions and provide a decent employment. For native americans, Christianity does not have as much a place as being one with nature and joining one's self to the spirit of the natural world. The concept of Christianity does not make as much sense as it does to the "white man/paleface". To work with the native americans, we would have to know their culture better. It would be best for native american Christians to reach their own than for us to try to wedge our way into their lives. I agree that they need help - don't get me wrong. They have been "wronged" by the white man so much they are very skeptical when some white person says, "Hi, I'm here to help you." Quote http://antcreations.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/antcreations/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Gail Posted March 6, 2009 Administrators Share Posted March 6, 2009 Thank you, antcreations, for mentioning Monte's new health series. If you hadn't I would have! I'm looking forward to its release. At the ABC we have an urgent interest in it already. Quote Isaiah 32:17 And the work of righteousness shall be peace; and the effect of righteousness quietness and assurance for ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators antcreations Posted March 6, 2009 Moderators Share Posted March 6, 2009 we do have gathered alot of interests here too! once it is released (with the printed study guides) we will introduced this to the native villages (8 reserves) around Terrace. we have talked to some of the native elders and health professionals and they are excited as well. monte was here for the closing of our Native Prophesy Series and he mentioned the first release might be this fall - God willing. if it will encourage some, pictures of our Native Evangelism are posted in our church website: http://terraceadventist.org/?p=488 BC Alive cover story is posted there as well: http://terraceadventist.org/?p=550 Quote http://antcreations.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/antcreations/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators antcreations Posted March 8, 2009 Moderators Share Posted March 8, 2009 hello everyone. i thought i'd like to share that we have started our first native church plant service! we had about 43 people attend and a17 of those are from the native or street community! i've made a short report on our church website. there's a few couple of pictures there as well: http://terraceadventist.org/?p=558 Quote http://antcreations.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/antcreations/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Gail Posted March 8, 2009 Administrators Share Posted March 8, 2009 Nice! Praise the Lord! Quote Isaiah 32:17 And the work of righteousness shall be peace; and the effect of righteousness quietness and assurance for ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members phkrause Posted March 8, 2009 Members Share Posted March 8, 2009 Thanks for sharing. pk Quote phkrause By the decree enforcing the institution of the papacy in violation of the law of God, our nation will disconnect herself fully from righteousness. When Protestantism shall stretch her hand across the gulf to grasp the hand of the Roman power, when she shall reach over the abyss to clasp hands with spiritualism, when, under the influence of this threefold union, our country shall repudiate every principle of its Constitution as a Protestant and republican government, and shall make provision for the propagation of papal falsehoods and delusions, then we may know that the time has come for the marvelous working of Satan and that the end is near. {5T 451.1} Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haldog Posted May 4, 2009 Share Posted May 4, 2009 I haven't seen Monty for a while either, how is he doing? Quote "You may not agree with everyone. But if you are an honest man, when someone says something you disagree with it’ll drive you to the Word. If you find out that you were wrong and change your thinking then you are the better for it. If you go to the Word and find out that you were right then you have been strengthened. But either way always go to the Word!!” Billye Brim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators antcreations Posted May 5, 2009 Moderators Share Posted May 5, 2009 monte is doing great. he will be in Alberta next month for the annual Native Campmeeting there. he is very busy with the production of the Native New Health and NAtive New Day DVD series. Quote http://antcreations.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/antcreations/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tenisha1638 Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 Im native american and never heard of seventh day adventist or went to church. I didn't grow up on the reservation though but there is a lack of any kind of faith in many of our activities as a tribe, especially today. But I have met a native man from another tribe who tries to mix some of the old traditional native american ways with his Christianity. Like burning sage while praying and cleaning your self with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan Posted April 27, 2013 Author Share Posted April 27, 2013 Welcome here, I really appreciate you being here and posting. The Adventist Church is building a strong work in Canada with first nations. The amazing thing is, so many of the traditional aboriginal beliefs are similar to the raw Adventist teachings. For example if you go to the 6 Nation logo, it has 7 feathers on it, one for each day of creation. I will be at the Native Camp Meeting in Port Hardy BC one week today. It will be held at the Gwa'sala-'Nakwaxda'xw SDA Church in Port Hardy British Columbia. There is a book in the works of Sabbath keeping in tribes before the Europeans moved in. Fascinating. Quote If you receive benefit to being here please help out with expenses. https://www.paypal.me/clubadventist Administrator of a few websites like https://adventistdating.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members phkrause Posted April 27, 2013 Members Share Posted April 27, 2013 Awesome, Praise the Lord. Quote phkrause By the decree enforcing the institution of the papacy in violation of the law of God, our nation will disconnect herself fully from righteousness. When Protestantism shall stretch her hand across the gulf to grasp the hand of the Roman power, when she shall reach over the abyss to clasp hands with spiritualism, when, under the influence of this threefold union, our country shall repudiate every principle of its Constitution as a Protestant and republican government, and shall make provision for the propagation of papal falsehoods and delusions, then we may know that the time has come for the marvelous working of Satan and that the end is near. {5T 451.1} Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Oplinger Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 I have not heard of such a book - or of such a thing as the Sabbath-keeping tribes. Could you give us a heads up to when it is published and distributed? I'd be much appreciated! Blessings, Quote "As iron sharpens iron, so also does one man sharpen another" - Proverbs 27:17 "The offense of the cross is that the cross is a confession of human frailty and sin and of inability to do any good thing. To take the cross of Christ means to depend solely on Him for everything, and this is the abasement of all human pride. Men love to fancy themselves independent. But let the cross be preached, let it be made known that in man dwells no good thing and that all must be received as a gift, and straightway someone is offended." Ellet J. Waggoner, The Glad Tidings "Courage is being scared to death - and saddling up anyway" - John Wayne "The person who pays an ounce of principle for a pound of popularity gets badly cheated" - Ronald Reagan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan Posted April 27, 2013 Author Share Posted April 27, 2013 Sure will. I am at the Native Meetings next week. Will be bring this up. Some of the research on aboriginal prophesy is incredible. The histoy is more word of mouth as their story boards in British Columbia were totem poles. Which are interesting by themselves. Quote If you receive benefit to being here please help out with expenses. https://www.paypal.me/clubadventist Administrator of a few websites like https://adventistdating.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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