Amelia Posted April 18, 2008 Share Posted April 18, 2008 Praying passenger removed from plane at NY airport By Associated Press Apr 18, 2008 NEW YORK (AP) - A passenger who left his seat to pray in the back of a plane before it took off, ignoring flight attendants' orders to return, was removed by an airport security guard, a witness and the airline said. The Orthodox Jewish man, who wore a full beard, a black hat and a long black coat, stood near the lavatories and began saying his prayers while the United Airlines jet was being boarded at John F. Kennedy International Airport on Wednesday night, said Ori Brafman, a fellow passenger who spoke about the incident by phone from San Francisco, where he lives. When flight attendants urged the man, who was carrying a religious book, to take his seat, he ignored them, Brafman said. Two friends, who were seated, tried to tell the attendants that the man couldn't stop until after he'd finished his prayers in about 2 minutes, he said. When the man finally stopped praying, he explained that he couldn't interrupt his religious ritual and wasn't trying to be rude. But the attendants summoned a guard to remove him, said Brafman, a writer who had been visiting New York to talk to publishers. The plane, Flight 9 to San Francisco, took off without the man. It landed at its destination as scheduled, Brafman said. Robin Urbanski, a spokeswoman for United Airlines, a subsidiary of UAL Corp. with headquarters in Chicago, confirmed the man was taken off the plane and put on another flight Thursday morning. Urbanski said flights cannot depart if all passengers are not in their seats, which risks a delay, and it is important that passengers listen to the instructions of the flight crew. The Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, which runs area airports, and the Transportation Security Administration, which handles airport security, said Thursday they weren't involved in the incident Quote <p><span style="color:#0000FF;"><span style="font-weight:bold;"><span style="font-style:italic;">"Do not use harmful words, but only helpful words, the kind that build up and provide what is needed, so that what you say will do good to those who hear you."</span></span> Eph 4:29</span><br><br><img src="http://banners.wunderground.com/weathersticker/gizmotimetemp_both/US/OR/Fairview.gif" alt="Fairview.gif"> Fairview Or</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olger Posted April 18, 2008 Share Posted April 18, 2008 A prayerorist. Good thing we dodged that bullet.. Quote "Please don't feed the drama queens.." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woody Posted April 18, 2008 Share Posted April 18, 2008 Quote: which risks a delay Since when were they concerned with a delay? Quote May we be one so that the world may be won. Christian from the cradle to the grave I believe in Hematology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fccool Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 What's wrong with praying in your seat???? The guy knew that he is going to fly, he knew that he would be requested to remain seated during the take off, so he was not prohibited to pray. Anyone who would refuse to agree to sit down during the take off would be treated in the similar manner. So it is by far not the religious liberty infringement case here IMO. My religious views may hold that I should not use toilets and perhaps some other disgusting things (they don't ) but it does not mean I should not be considerate of other people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Naomi Posted April 23, 2008 Administrators Share Posted April 23, 2008 What's wrong with praying in your seat???? The guy knew that he is going to fly, Amen!! Quote If your dreams are not big enough to scare you, they are not big enough for God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amelia Posted April 23, 2008 Author Share Posted April 23, 2008 He is Orthodox. I think they are required to stand and bow alot when praying. Quote <p><span style="color:#0000FF;"><span style="font-weight:bold;"><span style="font-style:italic;">"Do not use harmful words, but only helpful words, the kind that build up and provide what is needed, so that what you say will do good to those who hear you."</span></span> Eph 4:29</span><br><br><img src="http://banners.wunderground.com/weathersticker/gizmotimetemp_both/US/OR/Fairview.gif" alt="Fairview.gif"> Fairview Or</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Naomi Posted April 26, 2008 Administrators Share Posted April 26, 2008 I can understand both sides of this issue. However, if I were a passenger with a connecting flight ahead and we we on the ground waiting for him to complete his prayers I might be a little irritated. Quote If your dreams are not big enough to scare you, they are not big enough for God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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